And don't forget that they replaced the original models with the current Christian one.
They don't complain about that "replacement of the US currency", eh.
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In God We Trust’ signs going up at public schools all over South Dakota
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They don't complain about that "replacement of the US currency", eh.
Shadow Wolf
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They sure don't. Makes me wish there is a hell, so I can see the look on their faces when god face palms his palm through his faith at those with such incredibly weak and misplaced faith, those who were in such constant need of assurance of their faith they let the prophets of the Golden Calf remind them. And they think it venerates a god who would have hated Capitalism more than Marx.
Their God hates capitalism?
Oh, he's a bad one.
Shadow Wolf
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Jesus did often speak against hording wealth, being wealthy, and explicitly said rich people do not get into Heaven.
That doesn't really speak to capitalism.
Such sins can afflict any system.
Shadow Wolf
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They didn't have Capitalism back then, of course, but Jesus did say his followers have to sell everything they have and give the money to the poor. He was pretty big into wealth redistribution, and unconditionally so (Marx had an equal obligation to work). Clearly, he would have hated any system that is built around people making profits. Bankers, investors, CEOs, he would have hated them all for being so wealthy while so many go hungry.
The Jesus economy seems a doomed model.
Shadow Wolf
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It does. It's nice to take care of the poor, but that "lazy people sitting around all day and still getting everything handed to them" thing is a very real concern under a "Jesus economy."
SugarOcean
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And control the "cashless" access since they'll control all manner of processing in commerce.
Darkforbid
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Yep, you can't argue with people who will not see the economic impact of the vast amount of dollars hoarded worldwide suddenly hitting the market
SugarOcean
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Actually, that is a very real thing proposed by the Socialists in America. And who are spouting that garbage from the Hill after being elected there by the gullible who think it a good idea that everyone get a paycheck. Whether they work for it or not.
Where does that money come from?
Is not a question or concern for them.
SugarOcean
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Think of that all seeing eye on our current fiat notes.
Digital currency is a failed model already. Think about it.
SugarOcean
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While, In God We Trust, isn't leaving our paper currency. Bummer huh?
Shadow Wolf
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Well, if you insist on perverting your faith.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Yeah, Marxist aren't Socialist, Democratic Socialists aren't Socialists, and Liberals aren't Socialist.
They'll know all, & they have the power of the purse.
The IRS regularly swoops in to take all of someone's money in banks
when they suspect tax evasion. Innocent & guilty alike have their
personal & business affairs shut down.
For example, if you have a small business which makes regular cash
deposits, each of which is under $10K, but together add up to over
$10K in a 12 month period, this is a crime known as "structuring".
Few know of this, & innocently violate it.
(Btw, if innocent, one must still spend time & money to get it back.)
A cashless society allows for no Plan B when government ers,
or worse yet, decides to treat one as an enemy, & targeting one
with malicious intent. Sounds like China, eh.
Do we really want to give government such total power over us?
I have.
The big problem is that it's so successful.
SugarOcean
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Until you lose the pass code to so as to get to your currency. Anything electronic can be compromised. Hackers have proven that with ransom ware. Imagine that scenario.
All those digital currency accounts out there ransomed. Or hacked and sent somewhere else.
That would apply to crypto-currencies, but now the dollar is digital.
I move around far more money electronically than by the shuffling
of dead presidents.
And now, government aparatchiks want to eliminate large bills cuz
they're too convenient for those of us who like our anonymity.
SugarOcean
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Happened to my mom. And she worked for a hospital that took her taxes out of the gross.
The money was gone and a day later she got their letter saying they were going to take her money because my dad owed a tax he didn't know about from his last return as a self employed business.
Years ago when I was in my early 20's I can still recall reading of a senior citizen who had lived a good life, had grandchildren, and was being harassed by the IRS for back taxes. They threatened to take the home he worked to pay for and that he and his wife raised their kids in. His bank account of course.Everything.
He made news because his suicide note gave their harassment and threats as the cause.
And people think chip implants, a cashless society, is all a great technological evolution for our future.
I think those are likely the same people that can't be separated from their phone or they'll have an anxiety attack. Those one's that line three deep around the Apple store to buy the latest gadget that was made by slave labor in a foreign country.Slaves who can't afford the very phone they make for others.
Those consumers likely drive Hybrid cars.
"I'm going green. I'm reducing my carbon footprint. Yay, me!"
The perfect consumer demographic for Elon Musk's Nuralink implant of the very near future.
Elon Musk's Neuralink implant will "merge" humans with AI
Forget cashless. Stock up on silver and gold. Small silver pieces the size of a chicklet for those who remember that brand, are out now. Because when it comes down to going along to survive together and people refuse implants and scan bar code like tattoo's to access their cash or purchase items, they'll have to have a means to survive under the radar.
Ever watch that B movie with Stallone and Bullock starring? "Demolition Man". ? If not, see if your library has a copy.
Back to the OP topic.
That a 17 year history in Utah schools boasting , In God We Trust, is historic in itself we don't have any concerns that this latest South Dakota plan will falter or succeed if challenged by atheist anti-Christian activist groups like FFRF. Which violates their c3 tax exempt status on a regular basis and will be oh so surprised when they're a headline in that regard.
The ruling by the courts concerning currency doesn't let to be an exclusive to currency.
In God We Trust is a national motto that does not endorse religion.
I'm so glad I lived long enough to see anti-religious zealots finally defeated by more than one court in their zeal to erase Deity from the American landscape.
American's are guaranteed freedom of religion. NOT freedom from religion. - "Aronow v. United States," 432 F.2d 242 (1970) in the United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit The court ruled that:
- "Madalyn Murray O'Hair, et al. v. W. Michael Blumenthal, Secretary of Treasury, et al." 588 F.2d 1144 (1979) in the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. Ms. O'Hair is (in)famous for successfully challenging compulsory prayer in U.S. public schools. The United States District Court, Western District of Texas, referring to the wording of the Ninth Circuit above, ruled that:
This ruling was sustained by the Fifth Circuit court. 1
- The Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc. conducted a national survey which showed that "In God We Trust" was regarded as religious by an overwhelming percentage of U.S. citizens. They initiated a lawsuit on 1994-JUN-8 in Denver CO to have it removed from U.S. paper currency and coins. They also wanted it to be discontinued as the national motto. Their lawsuit was dismissed by the district Court without trial, on the grounds that "In God We Trust" is not a religious phrase! The Tenth-Circuit federal judge confirmed the dismissal, stating in part:
The U.S. Supreme Court declined to review all of these rulings. It might be embarrassing to them, because the motto also hangs on the wall at the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has commented in passing on the motto saying that:
"[o]ur previous opinions have considered in dicta the motto and the pledge [of allegiance], characterizing them as consistent with the proposition that government may not communicate an endorsement of religious belief." Allegheny, 492 U.S.
Federal bill signed into law:
A bill to reaffirm "In God We Trust" as the national motto, and the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance was passed with a 99% vote in the House, and unanimously in the Senate. Rep. Todd Akin, (R-MO) voted for the measure. Apparently he is unaware that the "Under God" phrase is a relatively recent addition to the Pledge. He said: "I think the Congress was expressing the fact that they support the recitation of the pledge as it has always been supported. I think they're further saying that there isn't any problem with the First Amendment." Historian David Barton, president of WallBuilders, said: "This bill has no effect on the 'Under God' controversies, because we have seen in a number of cases that when Congress does something, the Supreme Court almost feels compelled to tell them to back off and leave them alone." 8
http://www.religioustolerance.org/nat_mott.htm