Bishop:- Gays caused by pregnant women having anal sex.

[ChristineM]

That's right, and I didn't use it either the first time I said it was wrong 'Rubbish they may have made life like structures,,, but scientifically created life has never happened'

She said that was 'bull'

So what is your definition of life?

In the the case of Craig Venter. His synthetic life has been observed self replicating and evolving.

 

[shmogie]

We don't have to believe it, we see it.

Of course talking snakes, magic apples (or whatever) off of magic trees imparts knowledge and eternal life, and poofing things into existence that takes 6 days to do, could not possibly be seen as outlandish by any stretch of the imagination. Eh? ;0)

You see life being created from dead chemicals pray tell where. The womb doesn´t count.

 

[ChristineM]

So the bacteria and living cells used in those examples came from what if not from reproduction,, Tesco, magic?

You have not read the papers. You cannot be expected to understand if you have not read the papers... What bacteria?

 

[shmogie]

Really! Then explain what else this means:

'Life has been created in laboratories three times that i know of, each time using different methods, it seems life is really quite easy and who knows how many times its actually starred on earth already?

But the best one I have heard is 'i dont understand so god musta dun it wiv magic''

Keep in mind her statements about life being created in a lab three times using different methods, was within the context of a discussion of abiogenesis.

 

[ChristineM]

Keep in mind her statements about life being created in a lab three times using different methods, was within the context of a discussion of abiogenesis.

I stated life has been created in the laboratory, no context involved so stop imagining things and painting me with your meanderings just so you can fudge an ah-ha, gotya

Life had been created, first a synthetic bacteria which is observed to evolve

Then life using 2 additional dna subunits

Then the fist spark of life as is found existing all over the world

There may be more that i dont know sbout

 

[shmogie]

So what is your definition of life?

In the the case of Craig Venter. His synthetic life has been observed self replicating and evolving.

Shmogie....... to write an 'amusing' story in connection with an ignorant Bishop making stupid suggestions which just further homophobia and sexual bigotry could be seen as inappropriate, and so @Shadow Wolf 's responses hardly seem like 'downers'.

LOL, you are not capable separating the two ?

The dumb Bishop was in itself an amusing story. How many people do you think would take that blather seriously ? What if they did ?

The whole thing is ludicrous and laughable. How could the poor old Bishops hypothesis contribute to what you call homophobia ? Is the homosexual in your view responsible for what made him that way ? Do you think if any idiot believed the story, it would chane how they viewed homosexuals ? Why ?

 

[Darkforbid]

So what is your definition of life?

In the the case of Craig Venter. His synthetic life has been observed self replicating and evolving.

It's not synthetic life, it's synthetically modified life

You have not read the papers. You cannot be expected to understand if you have not read the papers... What bacteria?

At the top of the paper in the description,, it's genetically altered bacteria

Like I said before

 

[ChristineM]

It's not synthetic life, it's synthetically modified life


At the top of the paper in the description,, it's genetically altered bacteria

Like I said before

Actually it says a mix of chemicals

They manufactured a new chromosome from artificial DNA in a test tube, then transferred it into an empty cell and watched it multiply – the very definition of being alive.

The man-made single cell "creature", which is a modified version of one of the simplest bacteria on earth, proves that the technology works.​

Methinks you misunderstood

 

[Darkforbid]

I stated life has been created in the laboratory, no context involved so stop imagining things and painting me with your meanderings just so you can fudge an ah-ha, gotya

Life had been created, first a synthetic bacteria which is observed to evolve

Then life using 2 additional dna subunits

Then the fist spark of life as is found existing all over the world

There may be more that i dont know sbout

Saying something is synthetic life,, when it's synthetically altered life is what? Intelectual dishonesty, or just plain lies

 

[shmogie]

I stated life has been created in the laboratory, no context involved so stop imagining things and painting me with your meanderings just so you can fudge an ah-ha, gotya

Life had been created, first a synthetic bacteria which is observed to evolve

Then life using 2 additional dna subunits

Then the fist spark of life as is found existing all over the world

There may be more that i dont know sbout

Where did the DNA come from for these synthetic bacteria. I know, do you ?

It did not create itself from dead chemicals. It did not create the information it contained, nor did it code that information or put it in chains.

It was not created life. It was facsimilie life, in one case using living DNA from another organism, and in another case, using very inferior and crude man made DNA containing little information that created a poor doppelganger of life.

I am quite familiar with these, and they are not anything close to abiogenesis, or natural creation of life..

Your evidence is old, panned by those working on abiogenesis, and not at all what you promised.

You failed.

You will crow that you didn´t and do some hair splitting, but you did.

 

[Darkforbid]

Actually it says a mix of chemicals

They manufactured a new chromosome from artificial DNA in a test tube, then transferred it into an empty cell and watched it multiply – the very definition of being alive.

The man-made single cell "creature", which is a modified version of one of the simplest bacteria on earth, proves that the technology works.​

Methinks you misunderstood

It's existing life with modified chromosome

 

[oldbadger]

One could ask you that. You don't tell me what anything when you wrote this: And Christianity seems to have done nothing about bringing love and understanding in to Christian communities.

I tell you again, where I live there are Christian Churches that Ordain Gays, Marry Gays and acknowledge Gay partnerships. BIG Churches.
And you DO NOT, because you continue on with the bigotry whilst ignoring the important Mosaic Laws.
Let's just look at that............

The NT says sexually immoral people, which would be homosexuals as well as unrepentant straights, will not see the kingdom of Heaven.
The churches you refer to are apostate. And their leadership that turns them apostate will answer to a higher standard of judgment at their judgment before the Great White Throne.
Meanwhile, rather than being at the service of saving souls they're insuring their damnation by calling that which is sinful good.

There we are...... what rubbish that is.
You write that 'The NT says...' ..... such junk, because Jesus said nothing of the sort. If you want to ignore what Jesus said and did then I do wonder how you manage to spin this junk ?

People who loath Christians will call Christians bigots for holding to the scriptures that are the foundation of their faith. It is religious intolerance, bigotry, at the root of that loath filled individual and their disdain.
They are upset because Christians don't turn their back on God so as to stand with fallen men who fulfill the prophecy in the new testament that warns, there will be those who bring unsound doctrine calling that which is sinful good and that which is good sinful Deceiving even the elect. Paraphrased from Matthew 24.

Mat 24? Yeah. Jesus said:- {24:5} For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many
...... now just who do you think he referred to?
I reckon that he referred to the hypocrits who self-righteously would opress and condemn others for their sexuality whilst totally ignoring the POOR LAWS outlined in the Mosaic Laws. John the Baptist called the priesthood in his religion hypocrits. See? Nothing changes.

There, as you requested, I did acknowledge them.

So who are the real Christians, eh? Certainly not those who condemn others for their own individual loves and sexualities whilst ignoring such important laws as the poor laws.

 

[SomeRandom]

If you copy/paste the link then it will work.
Or you can find several other reports about this if you enter a search.....

Gay people exist because pregnant women had 'anal sex' claims ...

Bishop outrageously says unborn babies turn gay when mums have anal sex
Gay people exist because pregnant women had 'anal sex' claims orthodox bishop in Cyprus. Jon Lockett. 26 Jul 2019, 23:48; Updated: 27 Jul 2019, 2:27.


Well folks? Who can show me where this is explained in the Christian Bible?
How gob-smackingly stunningly head-throbbingly cranky this stuff is.

That’s an err interesting theory I guess

 

[SomeRandom]

XY gonadal dysgenesis, also known as Swyer syndrome, is a type of hypogonadism in a person whose karyotype is 46,XY. They typically have normal female external genitalia, identify as female, and are raised as girls.
XY gonadal dysgenesis - Wikipedia​

Easy to look up,i hope it helps

Lol I remember learning that back in like grade 10 Biology class. I never realised just how many X and Y variations we had!

 

[oldbadger]

RAts!!! I saw that article too this morning but was a bit busy. You beat me to it

Obviously this is not a "cure". It will prevent future gay people. You hear that guys? No more butt sex with anyone!

Oh wait, I take that back. Once your wife is past her child bearing years you have a green light. Play safe!

It's incredible, until you see 'em actually writing and saying this jibberish.

It's just primitive bigotry, this junk, including any and all self-righteousness about folk's individual sexuality.

The idea that these extremists claim to be Christians is either gob-smackingly dishonest or crazy. The only real Christians imo are those who understand what love and understanding are.

I don't have to believe to be able to acknowledge communal love, where they have it.

But... Hey! Let's look at the bright side. Many Churches are reviewing the real messages for Christianity and progressing forward towards love and understanding for all....... the others can wither away .... would be best.

 

[oldbadger]

LOL, you are not capable separating the two ?

The dumb Bishop was in itself an amusing story. How many people do you think would take that blather seriously ? What if they did ?

The whole thing is ludicrous and laughable. How could the poor old Bishops hypothesis contribute to what you call homophobia ? Is the homosexual in your view responsible for what made him that way ? Do you think if any idiot believed the story, it would chane how they viewed homosexuals ? Why ?

No shmogie...... wrong.
This muck spoken by anybody is dangerous and could incite morons to criminal acts, but an idiot Bishop saying it?

It is a like a religious warrant to the mob to set upon Gays and even their mothers!

No...... no humour there, I'm afraid. Totally inappropriate.

 

[oldbadger]

That’s an err interesting theory I guess

I much prefer the Stork theory.

 

[SomeRandom]

I much prefer the Stork theory.

Hmm. I’m quite partial to the cabbage patch theory myself.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

As much as your post is equally absurd!!!!

You're not making any sense and you're usually not like this. You okay?

 

[SugarOcean]

I tell you again, where I live there are Christian Churches that Ordain Gays, Marry Gays and acknowledge Gay partnerships. BIG Churches.
And you DO NOT, because you continue on with the bigotry whilst ignoring the important Mosaic Laws.
Let's just look at that............

And what I told you is that according to the scriptures you're unaware of, those churches are apostate.
Look it up. Apostate.
The bigotry would be yours. Rendered as is evident against actual Bible reading Christians and while resorting to all sorts of pejorative language in order to defend your argument that sin should be OK when it comes to homosexuals.

There we are...... what rubbish that is.
You write that 'The NT says...' ..... such junk, because Jesus said nothing of the sort. If you want to ignore what Jesus said and did then I do wonder how you manage to spin this junk ?

Christians don't read the abrogated Queen James Bible. That's why gays who defend homosexuality as perfectly OK with God are unaware of what the Bible says prior to its abrogation by vested interests from the LGBTQ community. A bible they created that is actually qualified to be satire.

It is a lie that Jesus never said any such thing. There are Christians that believe Saul of Tarsus, a Pharisee who "found Christ" on the road to Damascus, was informed by Jesus during his ministry. And as such Saul wrote epistles to that effect, epistle=letters.
When Jesus was God, of the old testament, incarnate, the same God that said laying with a man as with a woman was an abomination worthy of death did not change his mind in the new testament. The death penalty during Jesus time would have been carried out by the temple judges against that particular sin. There are many sins in the Torah.
Meanwhile, Jesus informed Saul that the sexually immoral will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven. What you chose to miss in that statement that I now repeat was, that includes heterosexuals as well as unrepentant homosexuals.
1 Corinthians 6:9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdomof God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts,

Ephesians 5:5 5For of this you can be sure:No immoral, impure, or greedy person (that is, an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on the sons of disobedience.

Mat 24? Yeah. Jesus said:- {24:5} For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many
...... now just who do you think he referred to?
I reckon that he referred to the hypocrits who self-righteously would opress and condemn others for their sexuality whilst totally ignoring the POOR LAWS outlined in the Mosaic Laws. John the Baptist called the priesthood in his religion hypocrits. See? Nothing changes.

He referred to the apostates such as you describe leading gays straight to Hell with lies bonded as truth.

So who are the real Christians, eh? Certainly not those who condemn others for their own individual loves and sexualities whilst ignoring such important laws as the poor laws.

Obfuscation makes your point invalid. This discussion isn't about the poor so throwing in a red herring just makes your argument look weaker than it is from a biblical standpoint.
God doesn't change because you think sexual immorality is perfectly OK and as such believe God should change his mind to fit your lifestyle.
As I said, there are many sins. People who can stay on topic realize this thread is about one particular sin. And one particular bishop who is unfit for his office.