Can some Buddhist or other monks read minds

[Samana Johann]

What, neither can you or anyone else?

Not true. Householder Cristine could, but does not like.

 

[MonkeyFire]

As faith buddha I must at the very least accept the reality of a telepathy. If understood the nature of faith to be fundamental to all narure, as a sustainer, or a great sun or fire then I know you would agree.

 

[stvdv]

no more need to commont on it, if mind is caught up, householder

Okay householder Samana Johann

 

[crossfire]

Physics and neuroscience is real and intuition is not mind reading no matter how gullible people are

Jung calls intuition "unconscious cognition." I know my unconscious mind is waaaay smarter than my conscious mind.

 

[ChristineM]

Not true. Householder Cristine could, but does not like.

Evidence please.

 

[LuisDantas]

Can some Buddhist or other monks read minds?

I don't think so. Not as such.

But there are definitely forms of communication that go beyond the verbal, sometimes quite fruitfully. And they do play an important role in Dharma transmission.

I don't think that they can work very well at all in PHP forums, though. Particularly when there are regular language barriers and the interlocutors do not share much of a history of mutual communication.

 

[ChristineM]

Jung calls intuition "unconscious cognition." I know my unconscious mind is waaaay smarter than my conscious mind.

Jung called many things, i prefer definition than the word (sometimes strange, sometimes totally weird, sometimes self serving) of one guy.

But in this he was not far off the mark

 

[atanu]

Can some Buddhist or other monks read minds?

My opinion does not pertain to any particular case of RF.

Truth realised sages do acquire omniscience. And intermediate yogis attain many kinds of siddhis.

 

[MonkeyFire]

I don't think so. Not as such.

But there are definitely forms of communication that go beyond the verbal, sometimes quite fruitfully. And they do play an important role in Dharma transmission.

I don't think that they can work very well at all in PHP forums, though. Particularly when there are regular language barriers and the interlocutors do not share much of a history of mutual communication.

They would. They believe in transient nature. Why be good but not be a "telepath."

 

[LuisDantas]

They would. They believe in transient nature. Why be good but not be a "telepath."

?

 

[MonkeyFire]

?

They have faith.

 

[siti]

Truth realised sages do acquire omniscience.

Wow! That is some claim - do you have any evidence? Does that "omniscience" include an intimate knowledge of what it is like to be me (for example) - or how it feels to be utterly ignorant of some subject or another? Because presumably genuine omniscience would have to include all of that, wouldn't it?

 

[siti]

But there are definitely forms of communication that go beyond the verbal

That's not news to RFers - there are also frubals.

 

[siti]

I know my unconscious mind is waaaay smarter than my conscious mind.

I know a lot of people like that.

 

[Vinayaka]

My opinion does not pertain to any particular case of RF.

Truth realised sages do acquire omniscience. And intermediate yogis attain many kinds of siddhis.

I didn't think the question had anything to do with RF. I can't see any realised Guru or advanced yogi spending any time on RF. Surely they would have better things to do than come here.

 

[danieldemol]

I don't understand the question.

What, in this context, is denoted by "mind"?

What test would demonstrate a successful or failed "reading" of one?

For example, I've read your OP. Is that 'reading your mind'? Why is it? Or, why isn't it?

Taking the direct approach, for example could you know the thoughts of my brain which are not revealed to you through my words?
A test could be devised that I write down what I am thinking but don’t reveal it to a person until after they have had the chance to read the thoughts of me as to what I had written.

 

[siti]

Householder Siti might know it, if having reached "holliness" or still worldling.

As for the statement before (integrity), if more interested: Cula-punnama Sutta: The Shorter Discourse on the Full-moon Night

And a study guide on how to change ancestorship:

Into the Stream: A Study Guide on the First Stage of Awakening

OK - let me see if I can get the hang of this...

But how, O Monk, can this "worldling" who lacks the ability to discern integrity discern the integrity of a teacher professing to guide him towards the stream?

And why, O Monk, would the speech and actions of a "worldling" lacking in integrity be needed to alert an ariyapuggala to that "worldling's" lack of integrity if the ariyapuggala can read minds anyway?

And why, O Monk, would an ariyapuggala with the ability both to discern integrity and to read minds have to wait until a "worldling" wrote something that displayed that lack of integrity before responding to it? The "worldling's" thoughts were presumably accessible long before the words were written.

I think that should do for now...and please don't take offense this time - my questions are serious even if I phrase them humorously - don't you think - or don't you think?

 

[siti]

I can't see any realised Guru or advanced yogi spending any time on RF. Surely they would have better things to do than come here.

Such as?

 

[Vinayaka]

Such as?

We have 'avatars' here, didn't you know?

I still can't get myself around the idea of 'I'm here, I'm here!' just assuming the role of teacher, as if it were the most natural thing in the world. However, it does make me dance lightly ... too easy to insult.

 

[Vinayaka]

Such as?

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. Better things to do ... write books, build institutions, counsel younger monks, travel where you're invited to teach, inspire others personally, do what monastics do.