• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Can some Buddhist or other monks read minds

Can some Buddhist or other monks read minds?


  • Total voters
    21

Samana Johann

Restricted by request
Householder @danieldemol,

Be sure that there are even lay people, following the Buddha, not to speak about contemplatives, and careful (not because they would do harm on something but in regard of effects out of your thought, kamma-vipaka)!

As for other sects, possible, but seldom.

Once having learned to read your own, it's no more that difficult. Why not learning it?

(What one thinks when making a poll in regard of facts... maybe he is after other interests...)
 
Last edited:

Samana Johann

Restricted by request
For those ho might be interested on the topic itself:

abhiññā: Intuitive powers that come from the practice of concentration: the ability to display psychic powers, clairvoyance, clairaudience, the ability to know the thoughts of others, recollection of past lifetimes, and the knowledge that does away with mental effluents

...(3) “He knows the minds of other beings (parassa-ceto-pariya-ñāṇa), of other persons, by penetrating them with his own mind. He knows the greedy mind as greedy and the not-greedy one as not greedy; knows the hating mind as hating and the not-hating one as not hating; knows the deluded mind as deluded and the not-deluded one as not deluded; knows the shrunken mind and the distracted one, the developed mind and the undeveloped one, the surpassable mind and the unsurpassable one, the concentrated mind and the unconcentrated one, the freed mind and the unfreed one.​
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
For those ho might be interested on the topic itself:

abhiññā: Intuitive powers that come from the practice of concentration: the ability to display psychic powers, clairvoyance, clairaudience, the ability to know the thoughts of others, recollection of past lifetimes, and the knowledge that does away with mental effluents

...(3) “He knows the minds of other beings (parassa-ceto-pariya-ñāṇa), of other persons, by penetrating them with his own mind. He knows the greedy mind as greedy and the not-greedy one as not greedy; knows the hating mind as hating and the not-hating one as not hating; knows the deluded mind as deluded and the not-deluded one as not deluded; knows the shrunken mind and the distracted one, the developed mind and the undeveloped one, the surpassable mind and the unsurpassable one, the concentrated mind and the unconcentrated one, the freed mind and the unfreed one.​
In other words, knowing which message to deliver to a given being that will aid them in overcoming a mental effluent, perhaps?
"Therefore, monks, your task is to learn: 'This is Suffering, this is the Arising of Suffering, this is the Cessation of Suffering, this is the Path that leads to the Cessation of Suffering.' That is your task."
~The Simsapa Leaves Sutta
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Can some Buddhist or other monks read minds?

To actually read someone else's mind, doubtful IMO. However it is possible to predict what someone is thinking. Facial expression, body language, choice of words, familiarity with the individual. Some of this happens on a subconscious level, so I'd imagine a few might see this as reading minds.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
For those ho might be interested on the topic itself:

abhiññā: Intuitive powers that come from the practice of concentration: the ability to display psychic powers, clairvoyance, clairaudience, the ability to know the thoughts of others, recollection of past lifetimes, and the knowledge that does away with mental effluents

...(3) “He knows the minds of other beings (parassa-ceto-pariya-ñāṇa), of other persons, by penetrating them with his own mind. He knows the greedy mind as greedy and the not-greedy one as not greedy; knows the hating mind as hating and the not-hating one as not hating; knows the deluded mind as deluded and the not-deluded one as not deluded; knows the shrunken mind and the distracted one, the developed mind and the undeveloped one, the surpassable mind and the unsurpassable one, the concentrated mind and the unconcentrated one, the freed mind and the unfreed one.​
Superstitious bollocks used to prey on the minds of the weak. Pretending have superpowers to take advantage of people who do not know better. I have heard and seen this all before.

giphy.gif
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Can some Buddhist or other monks read minds?
Hhhmmm religious quakery vs hyper reductionism scientifically?

Which do i find more annoying?

As an anrachist i would have to say its easy to read some folks minds. Chaos, thats all thats going on. ..
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What gave you the impression that they could or that it is possible in general terms?
Nothing did, hence I voted no. However as you will see from post #6 of this thread, that there does not seem to be evidence hasn’t stopped somebody making the claim ;-)
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Be careful, householder and your clan, that not spread something that might be objected in harming monks, since such might have not good consquences for one. Just to inform in general. Choices, how ever, are his and they are free.

So far in your comments to me, it has been clear one can not read minds.

Reading what you were saying to @adrian009, I would suggest he would feel the same. Or maybe I read his mind. ;)

Regards Tony
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
In some Hindu schools, it's believed that enlightened beings gain clairaudience as a natural siddhi (power) as a result of becoming enlightened. But it wouldn't be used or talked about, as the enlightened being also has loss of ego, and there would be no need to talk of it at all. It might be used naturally as a teaching tool, similar to the way good teachers or doctors use keen observation to help someone. Someone else, having observed it, might talk about it.
 

Samana Johann

Restricted by request
In other words, knowing which message to deliver to a given being that will aid them in overcoming a mental effluent, perhaps?
"Therefore, monks, your task is to learn: 'This is Suffering, this is the Arising of Suffering, this is the Cessation of Suffering, this is the Path that leads to the Cessation of Suffering.' That is your task."
~The Simsapa Leaves Sutta
Being "just" a sideeffect on the path, yes, for the ability to teach toward good it is used. And of course also to know what, whom, to avoid.
 

Samana Johann

Restricted by request
I never met a western Buddhist with the clarity of mind and power of thought that would make them think they could.
A worldling is not able to see such: good to keep in mind. Of course its merely seldom that such a person dwells in lands of wrong view and to meet a "real" monk, knowing it, oh, very seldom.
 
Top