New Zealand Doesn't Hesitate to Ban Automatic Weapons

[Audie]

So you've been using the George Costanza method?

I just have a head full of odd things

 

[lewisnotmiller]

And the USA is nobody's pal. But the US Navy
does control the oceans, and it is to everyone's
benefit,whether they appreciate it or not.

With any luck NZ will never need military help.

I'm really not sure what your point is. The US Navy works in the best interests of the US.
Where US benefits happen to coincidentally match New Zealand's best interests, then great...they get a completely unintended benefit.

Where US benefits are to the detriment of NZ, same thing.

NZ didn't make decisions on their military because they have a big brother to protect them. If anything, they could reduce military spending because they split from a previously closer military partnership.

 

[Audie]

I'm really not sure what your point is. The US Navy works in the best interests of the US.
Where US benefits happen to coincidentally match New Zealand's best interests, then great...they get a completely unintended benefit.

Where US benefits are to the detriment of NZ, same thing.

NZ didn't make decisions on their military because they have a big brother to protect them. If anything, they could reduce military spending because they split from a previously closer military partnership.

No point other than what I said.

FWiw I am not American, just green card holder.

It is a little strange living in Gotham

 

[Audie]

Yes.....
All political parties support new initiates to reduce and deter knife and other killings here.

But our knife murders in, say, London this year, dreadful as they are, have not yet reached your gun death per day rate of circa 85 !!!

The numbers mean nothing unless broken down.

Your stupid face palm means even less.

 

[Revoltingest]

I just have a head full of odd things

And you have a sense of decorum
(for ignoring the risque aspect).

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Having been a member of said little canoe club, I can say this is not uncommon. However, I am reminded of a poem written by a poet who may have gotten it right:

Poems - Tommy

Like I said...patronizing.
Unless you're harking back to WW2, when have they hidden behind US petticoats?
And they supported enough military ventures post WW2 to have paid off that 'debt'...though, again, US interests happened to coincide with ANZAC interests.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

No point other than what I said.

FWiw I am not American, just green card holder.

It is a little strange living in Gotham

I know you're not American, but your comments have more application to some countries than others.
Specifically talking about NZ, I don't think US military power is important to NZ interests.

Taiwan, Australia, Japan...all different stories.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I didn't know that you had been a shooting enthusiast.

In the years after my 3 years in the army, I liked shooting and had my marksman qualification. Also lived remote and many people liked ferral pig eradication, thus I joined in.

Now Im sad if a run over a snake with the lawn mower. It is amazing how much we can change.

Regards Tony

 

[Audie]

And you have a sense of decorum
(for ignoring the risque aspect).

I was brought up in a very strict straight home.

 

[Audie]

I see the Muslims blew up 30 people
in a church today.

 

[Revoltingest]

I see the Muslims blew up 30 people
in a church today.

Link?

 

[Audie]

Link?

Filipina friend posted it on facebook.

 

[Audie]

It was 20 people, in January.

Sorty for my incorrect post

 

[Revoltingest]

It was 20 people, in January.

Sorty for my incorrect post

I did run across that incident.
Violence sure does beget the same.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's not a spin, it isn't in their constitution so the privilege can be given or taken away by whoever is running the show at any specific time.

As America has proven with involuntary servitude, unwarranted searches and seizures, and arrests with no trial, even being a privilege granted by the Constitution and legally defined as a right doesn't mean we'll have the privilege tomorrow.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

This is true.

Don't you think the quick-fire, multi-killing nature of automatic and semi-auto guns makes them particularly dangerous?

Ever notice the people claiming "if you ban semi-automatic weapons, people will commit mass murder with baseball bats" never seem to think a baseball bat would be adequate for self defence?

 

[Revoltingest]

As America has proven with involuntary servitude, unwarranted searches and seizures, and arrests with no trial, even being a privilege granted by the Constitution and legally defined as a right doesn't mean we'll have the privilege tomorrow.

Rights must be continually defended against those impassioned folk who
know better, & believe we shouldn't be constrained by an 18th century relic.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Rights must be continually defended against those impassioned folk who
know better, & believe we shouldn't be constrained by an 18th century relic.

Rights tend to be acknowledged and granted by those fully aware and accepting of the fact we no longer live in the 18th century, and we've had to make numerous adjustments and alterations because what was given to us during the 18th century was proven to be, as predicted, inadequate and ill-equiped to address societal needs and issues beyond the 18th century.

 

[Revoltingest]

Rights tend to be acknowledged and granted by those fully aware and accepting of the fact we no longer live in the 18th century, and we've had to make numerous adjustments and alterations because what was given to us during the 18th century was proven to be, as predicted, inadequate and ill-equiped to address societal needs and issues beyond the 18th century.

I've found that many endure, eg, the 1st.
The 3rd seems less useful.

 

[Stanyon]

Blowing **** up is fun too, but I wouldn't trust the general public with explosives.

This is an excellent resource:
ATF Home Page | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives