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Nine Pieces Of Evidence That Confirm The Historical Accuracy Of The Bible

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I can access the link.. He?
I can give you the gist of it. There are very low concentrations of water throughout the mantle. Less than one percent. But the mantle is so large by volume that they add up. There is no way to quickly get that water in or out of the mantle. Most of it has been there for 4.5 billion years.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
The only way certain myths of the Bible, such as the Noah's Ark myth could be true is if God lied by covering up his evil deeds. That would be lying. You do not realize it but whenever you claim the Noah's Ark myth to be true you call God a liar.

Now that is funny.:D
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Why is it funny? Perhaps the logic is beyond you.

That's right because....

Genesis 6:12-20 New International Version (NIV)
God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways. So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth. So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high. Make a roof for it, leaving below the roof an opening one cubit high all around. Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks. I am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish. But I will establish my covenant with you, and you will enter the ark—you and your sons and your wife and your sons’ wives with you. You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you. Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive.

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With that I offer a song from our time.

 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That's right because....

Genesis 6:12-20 New International Version (NIV)
God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways. So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth. So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high. Make a roof for it, leaving below the roof an opening one cubit high all around. Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks. I am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish. But I will establish my covenant with you, and you will enter the ark—you and your sons and your wife and your sons’ wives with you. You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you. Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive.

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With that I offer a song from our time.

Forget about the lame excuses God had for his evil act. According to you God lied by covering up the event after the fact. All the scientific evidence out there tells us clearly that there was no such flood. The only way it could have occurred is if God covered up his evil act after the fact to make it look like it never happened. That is lying.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Forget about the lame excuses God had for his evil act. According to you God lied by covering up the event after the fact. All the scientific evidence out there tells us clearly that there was no such flood. The only way it could have occurred is if God covered up his evil act after the fact to make it look like it never happened. That is lying.

Sir, I believe you are entitled to your opinion.
I would respect that, whole hardheartedly.
However, I do have a problem....

Numbers 23:19 New International Version (NIV)
God is not human, that he should lie,
not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Where did the flood waters receded?
There must be a drainage downstairs.

Science & Technology
There May Be a Massive Ocean Beneath the Earth's Surface
January 31, 2018 Written by Reuben Westmaas
There May Be a Massive Ocean Beneath the Earth's Surface

This reminds me of another song....

 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Sir, I believe you are entitled to your opinion.
I would respect that, whole hardheartedly.
However, I do have a problem....

Numbers 23:19 New International Version (NIV)
God is not human, that he should lie,
not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Where did the flood waters receded?
There must be a drainage downstairs.

Science & Technology
There May Be a Massive Ocean Beneath the Earth's Surface
January 31, 2018 Written by Reuben Westmaas
There May Be a Massive Ocean Beneath the Earth's Surface

This reminds me of another song....

You only have opinion. I can support my claims.

Tell me do you still not understand how you are calling your God a liar?
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Of course the ancients knew air held water,
even if they did not use the word "vapour".
It would be next to impossible not to be know
it was there. You just made that up.

I made a fact checking
If the people of the old, know about "vapor"


Up to the time of the Renaissance, it was thought that precipitation alone was insufficient to feed rivers, for a complete water cycle, and that underground water pushing upwards from the oceans were the main contributors to river water. Bartholomew of England held this view (1240 CE), as did Leonardo da Vinci (1500 CE) and Athanasius Kircher (1644 CE).

The first published thinker to assert that rainfall alone was sufficient for the maintenance of rivers was Bernard Palissy (1580 CE), who is often credited as the "discoverer" of the modern theory of the water cycle. Palissy's theories were not tested scientifically until 1674, in a study commonly attributed to Pierre Perrault. Even then, these beliefs were not accepted in mainstream science until the early nineteenth century.

Water cycle - Wikipedia

I guess they only knew of it in 1580 CE,
The Book of Genesis was written 1450 BC to 1400 BC.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I made a fact checking
If the people of the old, know about "vapor"


Up to the time of the Renaissance, it was thought that precipitation alone was insufficient to feed rivers, for a complete water cycle, and that underground water pushing upwards from the oceans were the main contributors to river water. Bartholomew of England held this view (1240 CE), as did Leonardo da Vinci (1500 CE) and Athanasius Kircher (1644 CE).

The first published thinker to assert that rainfall alone was sufficient for the maintenance of rivers was Bernard Palissy (1580 CE), who is often credited as the "discoverer" of the modern theory of the water cycle. Palissy's theories were not tested scientifically until 1674, in a study commonly attributed to Pierre Perrault. Even then, these beliefs were not accepted in mainstream science until the early nineteenth century.

Water cycle - Wikipedia

I guess they only knew of it in 1580 CE,
The Book of Genesis was written 1450 BC to 1400 BC.
You are only reinterpreting the Bible after the fact again.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
Sir, I believe you are entitled to your opinion.
I would respect that, whole hardheartedly.
However, I do have a problem....

Numbers 23:19 New International Version (NIV)
God is not human, that he should lie,
not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Where did the flood waters receded?
There must be a drainage downstairs.

Science & Technology
There May Be a Massive Ocean Beneath the Earth's Surface
January 31, 2018 Written by Reuben Westmaas
There May Be a Massive Ocean Beneath the Earth's Surface

This reminds me of another song....

There is no evidence that the Earth experienced a global flood at any time in the last 20,000,000 years. The biblical story is likely a recounting of a regional flood that was of great size, but not global. Considering how little of the world, people of the time knew, a regional flood might have seemed like the whole world.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
I made a fact checking
If the people of the old, know about "vapor"


Up to the time of the Renaissance, it was thought that precipitation alone was insufficient to feed rivers, for a complete water cycle, and that underground water pushing upwards from the oceans were the main contributors to river water. Bartholomew of England held this view (1240 CE), as did Leonardo da Vinci (1500 CE) and Athanasius Kircher (1644 CE).

The first published thinker to assert that rainfall alone was sufficient for the maintenance of rivers was Bernard Palissy (1580 CE), who is often credited as the "discoverer" of the modern theory of the water cycle. Palissy's theories were not tested scientifically until 1674, in a study commonly attributed to Pierre Perrault. Even then, these beliefs were not accepted in mainstream science until the early nineteenth century.

Water cycle - Wikipedia

I guess they only knew of it in 1580 CE,
The Book of Genesis was written 1450 BC to 1400 BC.
What is mainstream science?
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
For one thing, it's filled with contradictions, and for another, it has obvious mistakes that are scientifically inaccurate.

Want me to believe 2 Kings 8:26 where it says Ahaziah was twenty-two when he began to rule over Jerusalem? Then don't tell me in 2 Chronicles 22:2 that he was forty-two.


It's not that I don't like the bible, but rather that so many of the things people claim for it are simply not backed up by evidence, OR are contradicted by fact.

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actually.... there are two explanations

first) the Bible is inspired int he original and possible to have scribal errors

but

second) might not have been a scribal error but rather two true statements from two perspecitves. Kingdom of Judah then united with Israel king of Israel


  • This was a time when the monarchy of Judah converged with the monarchy in Israel,with Jehoshaphat king of Judah even being called "king of Israel" (2 Chronicles 21:2).
  • Ahaziah was Jehoram's son in law, not a biological son (2 Kings 8:27).
  • Ahaziah is called the "son of Jehoshaphat" (2 Chronicles 22:9).
  • The respective authors of Kings and Chronicles wrote from different perspectives.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
There is no evidence that the Earth experienced a global flood at any time in the last 20,000,000 years. The biblical story is likely a recounting of a regional flood that was of great size, but not global. Considering how little of the world, people of the time knew, a regional flood might have seemed like the whole world.


I think there is plenty of evidence for a global flood if there was a global flood we would expect billions of dead things laid down by water all over the earth... and ... what do we see? Billions of dead things buried in rock layers layer down by water all over the earth?

 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
I think there is plenty of evidence for a global flood if there was a global flood we would expect billions of dead things laid down by water all over the earth... and ... what do we see? Billions of dead things buried in rock layers layer down by water all over the earth?

The fossils that are found all over the world are not all from the same time period and 99% are from periods far older than 4 or 5 thousand years ago.

Sorry. There is no evidence that supports the biblical assertion of a global flood. Physics indicates that such a flood would not be possible in the given parameters and surviving that sort of release of energy, that would have had to accompany such a flood, by people on a wooden boat would be impossible.
 
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