Evidences Supporting the Biblical Flood

[Hockeycowboy]

Where does he admit that? Please quote in context. He seems to keep supporting the idea that it is evolution:

"Is a colony considered a multi-cellular organism?

Good question. I would not think so. Rather, the colonies could be imagined to be the first step towards evolving real multicellularity ('an organism that reproduces by making a copy of the whole, and consists of different types of cells')."

In that post he clearly claims it is evolution. Where does he say that it is not?

Right.....

Rather, the colonies could be imagined to be the first step towards evolving real multicellularity...

....there.

You quoted the right part. You saw it, too. What does "imagine" mean to you?

 

[Hockeycowboy]

And in doing so, acting like the question hadn't been answered.


Lol....you ignored it when it was first posted to you and now all you have to say is that it's "interesting"? It's exactly what you've been challenging us to present...the evolution of new functional genetic sequences. (And to be honest, it's a rather silly challenge because that sort of thing is as common as rain....I mean, where else do you think genetic sequences come from?)


That has absolutely nothing to do with the question of "genetic information", and is irrelevant anyway since just yesterday I gave you a very good example of the observed evolution of multicellularity.

We'll see.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

yes it has by objective verifiable scientific evidence.

Well, post it, please!

 

[Faithofchristian]

I will not go for moving the goal posts to '. . . man's evidence on all things.' I will stick with the subject of the geologic history of the earth as known by objective verifiable evidence.

There is objective verifiable evidence in the strata for billions of years of history of the earth in many ages. Some places on earth this strata is continuous without interruption.

As for those billion of years that you speak of, takes us back to the first earth age.

Unto which those of the geologic history have no clue or idea about.

 

[shunyadragon]

We'll see.

Classic Three Stooges act; Duck, Bob and Weave.

 

[shunyadragon]

Well, post it, please!

It has been posted here in peer reviewed scientific research articles for years, and available in many legitimate science texts books and science journals worldwide. I have spent over 50 years in studying and working world wide in geology.

By the way what is your qualifications that prevent you from doing your own homework. Go to school and get an education.

 

[shunyadragon]

As for those billion of years that you speak of, takes us back to the first earth age.

Unto which those of the geologic history have no clue or idea about.

The billions of years goes back to the birth of the earth and our solar system go back billions of years further and you go to the beginning of the expansion of the universe.

Still no evidence for a flood.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

It has been posted here in peer reviewed scientific research articles for years, and available in many legitimate science texts books and science journals worldwide. I have spent over 50 years in studying and working world wide in geology.

By the way what is your qualifications that prevent you from doing your own homework. Go to school and get an education.

Nice persuasive answer.

 

[shunyadragon]

Nice persuasive answer.

Not intended to persuade. The objective verifiable evidence speaks for itself.

Again . . . By the way what is your qualifications that prevent you from doing your own homework. Go to school and get an education.

 

[shunyadragon]

Nice persuasive answer.

Wowsers! More Rainbows! Are you going to be in the parade in San Francisco?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Right.....

....there.

You quoted the right part. You saw it, too. What does "imagine" mean to you?

I thought so. You did not understand an article that you read and rely on an equivocation fallacy.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, post it, please!

It has been done many times. I have a feeling that you do not even understand what is and what is not evidence:

"Scientific evidence is evidence which serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical evidence and interpretation in accordance with scientific method. Standards for scientific evidence vary according to the field of inquiry, but the strength of scientific evidence is generally based on the results of statistical analysis and the strength of scientific controls."

Any questions?

 

[RedhorseWoman]

Let's for say, that I went by man's evidence on all things.
Now the question is, Why would I even want the bible
So either I follow what is written within the bible or I just throw the bible out.

But as a Christian to go by the bible, rather than by man's teachings

alot of people including man's teachings have no clue or idea about the first earth age. This includes alot of Christians. that are taught about the first earth age. All because it goes against what they have been taught by man's teachings also.

All they see is the here and now, no concept about the first earth age.

This is rather confusing. You say that you go by what the Bible says, but I am unaware of any scriptures describing a "first earth age" and any sort of flood that occurred during that "age." Supposedly, from what I had been taught that the Bible said, it had never rained prior to the Noachian flood, which was the main reason why Noah was being mocked for preaching about something that the people of that time had never seen.

Can you tell us where the Bible speaks of this "first earth age"?

 

[ecco]

But my evidence is according to what my God has given within the bible.

Please show evidence, from the Bible, that:

• God created dinosaurs

-then-

• The dinosaurs were wiped out in a flood

-then-

• God created Adam & Eve

 

[ecco]

Well, post it, please!

What is it you want posted? Do you want all of the text from all of the biology books studied in...

• Cellular Biology and Anatomical Sciences.
• Ecology and Evolutionary Biology.
• General Biology.
• Genetics.
• Microbiology and Immunology.
• Molecular Biology, Biochemistry and Biophysics.
• Pharmacology and Toxicology.
• Physiology and Related Sciences.

That wouldn't make much sense, would it? Especially because you couldn't understand any of it.

Instead of asking people to post things, why don't you actually try to learn some things?

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[Subduction Zone]

This is rather confusing. You say that you go by what the Bible says, but I am unaware of any scriptures describing a "first earth age" and any sort of flood that occurred during that "age." Supposedly, from what I had been taught that the Bible said, it had never rained prior to the Noachian flood, which was the main reason why Noah was being mocked for preaching about something that the people of that time had never seen.

Can you tell us where the Bible speaks of this "first earth age"?

Some Christians have very creative creation stories. I think that it begins as an attempt to cover for the fact that a 6,000 year old Earth is ridiculous. Sadly their innovations are no more believable.

 

[Faithofchristian]

The billions of years goes back to the birth of the earth and our solar system go back billions of years further and you go to the beginning of the expansion of the universe.

Still no evidence for a flood.

Go back billion of years goes back to the birth of the first earth age and the birth of the universe age.

I suppose from what your saying that you were there to know exactly what happened.
How does a mere human being that has only a life span of about 100 years or so knows exactly what happened billions of years ago.
All human beings are doing is nothing more than guess work, without actually being there to witness the birth of the earth and Universe.

So unless you have some evidence to bring forth showing a human being was there to give witness how exactly the birth of the earth and Universe actually started.

Your point is only guess work, without any actual proof of evidence. That's how the birth of the earth and Universe actually started.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Let's for say, that I went by man's evidence on all things.
Now the question is, Why would I even want the bible

What is man's evidence? Is a fossil man's evidence? Man didn't put it there.

Of what is the Bible evidence apart from the fact that it was written? You have no evidence that it had a divine author unless you consider the claims of those who told you it did to be evidence.

Classic Three Stooges act; Duck, Bob and Weave.

I remember Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Go back billion of years goes back to the birth of the first earth age and the birth of the universe age.

I suppose from what your saying that you were there to know exactly what happened.
How does a mere human being that has only a life span of about 100 years or so knows exactly what happened billions of years ago.
All human beings are doing is nothing more than guess work, without actually being there to witness the birth of the earth and Universe.

So unless you have some evidence to bring forth showing a human being was there to give witness how exactly the birth of the earth and Universe actually started.

Your point is only guess work, without any actual proof of evidence. That's how the birth of the earth and Universe actually started.

One cannot do just guesswork in the sciences. One has to make testable models. That appears to be what you are doing. Tell me, if you were wrong what reasonable test could show that you are wrong?

 

[shunyadragon]

Go back billion of years goes back to the birth of the first earth age and the birth of the universe age.

I suppose from what your saying that you were there to know exactly what happened.

No, based on the scientific evidence.

How does a mere human being that has only a life span of about 100 years or so knows exactly what happened billions of years ago.

All human beings are doing is nothing more than guess work, without actually being there to witness the birth of the earth and Universe.

So unless you have some evidence to bring forth showing a human being was there to give witness how exactly the birth of the earth and Universe actually started.

Your point is only guess work, without any actual proof of evidence. That's how the birth of the earth and Universe actually started.

Your moving the goalposts, and appealing to a vague 'arguing from ignorance,' to raise the fog index to justify your religious agenda without any evidence whatsoever. The history of the earth and our solar system is based on actual physical geologic evidence including whether there were ever any such floods you claim. There is no such thing as proof in science there is falsification of hypothesis and theories based on actual objective verifiable evidence which is totally absent to support your claims.

Let's deal with the actual physical evidence as to whether there were floods as you claim.