Which evolved first, the skull or the brain?

[Bear Wild]

I didn't say what controlled the brain and the skull, but I said what controlled the skull
alone from further growing while no strong muscles to fit it in place?

The skull is held together by bone and does not need muscles to fit it in place. The reference to the muscles of mastication as a restrictive process is possible factor. The ideas is thought to be associated with the need for more bone support the muscles which creates structural reasons. It is also possible that with the gene change had more to do with the lack of need for larger muscle strength as humans diet changed and occurred simultaneously with other changes in the skull in evolution. The point is that the mutation was selected for as an advantage during human evolution.

 

[FearGod]

The skull is held together by bone and does not need muscles to fit it in place. The reference to the muscles of mastication as a restrictive process is possible factor. The ideas is thought to be associated with the need for more bone support the muscles which creates structural reasons. It is also possible that with the gene change had more to do with the lack of need for larger muscle strength as humans diet changed and occurred simultaneously with other changes in the skull in evolution. The point is that the mutation was selected for as an advantage during human evolution.

Yes of course advantage, humans with big brains before 200000 years will think
better and hence will survive and reproduce, if they were less intelligent they'll
be vanished(went extinct)

Those who were able to say Mama have better chances to survive than those
who can't.

 

[tas8831]

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Hey bro - you avoided this thread for some reason:

Which was Created first, the optic nerve or the retina?

 

[FearGod]

Hey bro - you avoided this thread for some reason:

Which was Created first, the optic nerve or the retina?

I didn't notice it before, but as you think of it as a ridiculous question,
then why any one should care to discuss it with you.

 

[Timothy Spurlin]

Then make a better human, I think you have a brain better than the stones.

Do you believe god made Adam from clay or dirt, and Eve from his rib?
While you're at it, provide objective evidence that a god exist.

 

[FearGod]

Do you believe god made Adam from clay or dirt, and Eve from his rib?
While you're at it, provide objective evidence that a god exist.

Yes I believe we were made from matter of earth and water, regarding that woman was
taken from man's rib, I think this is clear when we realize that man has the Y chromosome
and the X chromosome, woman in normals has the X chromosome, it's really understood
then that women was made from the X chromosome of man.

Each person normally has one pair of sex chromosomes in each cell. The Y chromosome is present in males, who have one X and one Y chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes.

 

[Timothy Spurlin]

Yes I believe we were made from matter of earth and water, regarding that woman was
taken from man's rib, I think this is clear when we realize that man has the Y chromosome
and the X chromosome, woman in normals has the X chromosome, it's really understood
then that women was made from the X chromosome of man.

Each person normally has one pair of sex chromosomes in each cell. The Y chromosome is present in males, who have one X and one Y chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes.

So did Adam give birth to Eve?
Do you come from dirt or clay?
Did your mother make a mud puddle and scup out some mud and pray to God to give it life?

 

[FearGod]

So did Adam give birth to Eve?
Do you come from dirt or clay?
Did your mother make a mud puddle and scup out some mud and pray to God to give it life?

No, we were created in the womb.
If it was fabricated then the author of religion will simply write in the book
that God created Adam and Eve from clay, we don't know how God created
life and we can't create life from scratch, we have all elements that make life
possible but still we can't make a living creature, let's do it and religion will
be in the trash.

 

[Timothy Spurlin]

No, we were created in the womb.
If it was fabricated then the author of religion will simply write in the book
that God created Adam and Eve from clay, we don't know how God created
life and we can't create life from scratch, we have all elements that make life
possible but still we can't make a living creature, let's do it and religion will
be in the trash.

So the writer of that chapter of the bible lied about how many and woman we're created?

 

[FearGod]

So the writer of that chapter of the bible lied about how many and woman we're created?

I don't think so, creating life from clay was mentioned in other beliefs as well.

 

[Timothy Spurlin]

I don't think so, creating life from clay was mentioned in other beliefs as well.

From older religion's, much older than the Hebrews. So the OT writer took from other religions?

 

[FearGod]

From older religion's, much older than the Hebrews. So the OT writer took from other religions?

Why they have to?

 

[Bear Wild]

Yes I believe we were made from matter of earth and water, regarding that woman was
taken from man's rib, I think this is clear when we realize that man has the Y chromosome
and the X chromosome, woman in normals has the X chromosome, it's really understood
then that women was made from the X chromosome of man.

Each person normally has one pair of sex chromosomes in each cell. The Y chromosome is present in males, who have one X and one Y chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes.

Ok now I see why you have a problem with biological concepts. You seem to have a problem with you understanding of genetics. The cell from the rib do not undergo meiosis and cannot recombine to form and XX pattern. Of course it is utterly ridiculous since and is a made up myth implying that Adam or male is dominant over female since man gave life to woman. This story is not to explain biology or origins of man but as a way of teaching why man plays the important role in religious activities and why women are subservient to men. God makes man thus man is closest to god the woman created from man thus woman more disconnected from god. This is to teach social norms not to explain biological reality. I also think personally this is an incorrect social explanation since women give birth to men and should be equal socially and religiously.

 

[Bear Wild]

No, we were created in the womb.
If it was fabricated then the author of religion will simply write in the book
that God created Adam and Eve from clay, we don't know how God created
life and we can't create life from scratch, we have all elements that make life
possible but still we can't make a living creature, let's do it and religion will
be in the trash.

Ok, the people who wrote genesis had little to no understanding about biology except what they could observe externally. They did not know plants extract the carbon we are composed of from the air so missed the big picture of carbon fixation and transfer to animals. Since we now know humans are mainly water held together with carbon based membranes the concept of humans made of clay is of course ridiculous. They could only see that life grew from the ground. Anyone who tries to defend genesis as fact has to create all kinds of magical events and such liberal interpretation for words like clay, or day with liberal creative thinking to try to convince themselves that this is more than just a myth to enforce social standards on the followers of the Jewish faith. Humans making a living creature? Ridiculous statement showing desperation in view of reality.

 

[Timothy Spurlin]

Why they have to?

Christianity is guilt of taking from pagan religions, holidays being changed and gods being made into saints.
So the hebrews taking from older religions shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

[FearGod]

Ok now I see why you have a problem with biological concepts. You seem to have a problem with you understanding of genetics. The cell from the rib do not undergo meiosis and cannot recombine to form and XX pattern. Of course it is utterly ridiculous since and is a made up myth implying that Adam or male is dominant over female since man gave life to woman. This story is not to explain biology or origins of man but as a way of teaching why man plays the important role in religious activities and why women are subservient to men. God makes man thus man is closest to god the woman created from man thus woman more disconnected from god. This is to teach social norms not to explain biological reality. I also think personally this is an incorrect social explanation since women give birth to men and should be equal socially and religiously.

People can't realize by just reading.

 

[Subduction Zone]

People can't realize by just reading.

And what is that childish and very inaccurate drawing supposed to prove?

 

[FearGod]

And what is that childish and very inaccurate drawing supposed to prove?

It proves that you lack to understand even simple things.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It proves that you lack to understand even simple things.

You know that is not true. Try again.

 

[FearGod]

You know that is not true. Try again.

Because the chromosomes are in the unseen world then it's hard for you to realize them as ribs.