Thank you for your explanation and response. Science does not understand supernatural creation, it only studies it. In order for people to come to conclusions about the model of the Darwinian tree of life, you must have a starting point. Again, we know today that all living things have DNA and a genetic code with vital information or programming to tell the cell what to do. We also know that the cell cannot gain information and therefore cannot develop into something else. My original question was, if this is so, and it is, where did the information come from? You cant have a partial organism survive. You cant have a partial organism reproduce because it doesn't have the capability to do so and so it dies. It must be complete. Several years ago, a baby was born with hardly any brain mass. It was amazing that it was born alive but died shortly after delivery. How on earth do people get caught up in this nonsense of abiogenesis evolution? You can make all the models you like of what you think might have happened (speculation) and how life might have started under the constraints of the limited knowledge available, but if your presupposition is Darwinian Tree of Life Evolution, you have to make the science fit and it doesn't. Darwin had no clue about DNA and genetics in his day. He only observed what he could see. He barely believed his own theory or hypothesis, and if he knew what we know today, would completely dismiss it! So when you say "We have to have the discipline of not jumping to conclusions. So it is no argument at all that, just because we don't yet have a model for the origin of life, therefore we should all agree it was a supernatural miracle..... job done! That is just not a scientific way of thinking about the problem." The funny thing is, the more we learn through science and technology, the further way abiogenesis and macro evolution slides into the abyss of impossibility. You really only have only two options here, supernatural creation, or evolution. You have accepted the model of life being that of Darwinian evolution and it has not ever been substantiated, EVER. Why is it still being taught in schools? If something never happened, you are going to have a very hard time proving it did. Abiogenesis is impossible. No one has ever observed it and the insane amount of time required in the hypothesis along with the death blow of entropy speaks volumes of it's demise. You can keep trying though.
