A different timeline of events where I never existed would have occurred... is that what you mean?
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What's the difference?
Why holiness need to be worshipped?
I don't understand... what variety? Who attributed what to Him?
So God has needs that He can't meet within Himself?
Right that's what I said but why does God want anything considering He has everything met within Himself? The Bible states that He wants relationship, glory, worship etc. why does He want any of that if He's perfectly fulfilled within Himself?
Exactly, how can God act if He's outside of space and time?
Never mind, I made a mistake.
Yes, and I was raised with them.....I did the comparison and got blown away by how much of what was in the Bible got swept under the rug. When you let the Bible speak, it's message is loud and clear. And it's incredibly simple.
But we have to dismiss everything we were ever taught and start over. Why? Because God's enemy has an empire that he has built over thousands of years, promoting half truths and lies to win people over to his side and taking them away from God. (Matthew 7:13-14) The road to life is "cramped and narrow", not because God makes it so, but because God's adversary keeps planting land mines. He also has many temptations that are designed to lead us off that path. The easy way leads to death but most people choose it because they don't want to do it tough. It's our fallen human nature to choose the easier road.
Not so. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil did not mean that they didn't know evil existed....they had just never experienced it. And if they had remained obedient, they would never have done so. The tree was a small test of their obedience and their appreciation of the fact that as a good parent, they had to trust their father to tell them what was good and what was evil. That made the tree about his sovereignty....his right to set appropriate limits, which in this case would not have impacted on them in any negative way.
So why does evil exist at all? In all of creation there are equal opposites. Good can't exist without its equal opposite. It was the only thing God was going to keep from his children.
Take parents as an example. God presents himself as a father figure and treats his human children accordingly. In the animal kingdom we see many 'programmed' responses that we call instinct. Humans alone exercise their free will, rather than being fully programmed to perform their function. We respond naturally to any given situation but we have intellect that can keep our emotions in check. We choose to love based on our personal evaluation of a person, and our loyalty must be earned, likewise our respect. God never wanted robots who could not choose to express appropriate responses in any given situation. He wanted to earn that love by being the best father he could be. Look at the start he gave our first parents......yet someone suggested that it wasn't enough. Now it seems nothing ever is.
It's a very revealing exercise....just using scripture, not doctrine.
Are you up for an in depth evaluation?
Fire away. But try doing it one topic at a time. You are more likely to remember things if you organise your questions into topics.
There are many points of view here. Consider them and see what you think.
Go back to Genesis and read the demands that God made to his human children with regard to worship. What were his expectations of them? Where will you find nagging or anything unreasonable ever demanded? Start there and build a picture as a continuing story.
Not something you are passionate about eh? Sounds boring actually, especially when you have no ambition. I'm sure you have something you can be passionate about....you just haven't found it yet.
Don't give up...it might be closer than you think.
Ready when you are. I am in Australia, so I might not be awake when you are....please consider the time zone difference. It's morning here now and I will be coming and going all day.
So evolution is true?
Yeah you're probably right.
I don't blame them though since the Genesis account indicates that.
You don't believe in miracles?
You don't believe the Bible to be the perfect, inspired Word of God? Why?
Why wouldn't God favor Christians? Aren't they His people?
So God is in everyone and everything?
So they're wrong to stand up in church and sing and dance and clap and stuff?
Huh? How can God be the rejection of gods?
Are you an atheist? I watched the video but I still think Satan is wrong.
But He was already sharing it within Himself through the Trinity
Idk, when I speak of God, I go with the Judeo-Christian concept of Him.
MetallicHue
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Not on Lucifer - waiting for that to come out on Netflix.Atheist for sure. If it is real, I think I will try to avoid Satan. He is kind of unethical.
MetallicHue
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What exactly does he do nowadays?
What if he is not a trinity? Did you know that only Christendom and paganism have trinities? The God of Israel, and therefore Jesus's God, was a single entity. (Deuteronomy 6:4) The trinity is a product of apostasy, making the son a substitute God, breaking the first Commandment. (Exodus 20:3) The trinity as church doctrine did not exist till the 4th century.
Wrong again! We know Jehovah God THROUGH chosen ones. Heads up! Each time God uses a person or a group of people God's not single. To the Earth, God has never been single.