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God's Attitude Toward Homosexuality

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Marriage is ALWAYS hard, even if you are marrying someone you are attracted to.
Bingo!
Ya know how I know that I am married to Doug, and have been for about 25 years? Because of all the many times I wanted to either kill him or pick up and leave.
I've not done either one.
Now, his Mom lives with us:eek:
Tom
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Are you under the impression that homosexuals harm others more than heterosexuals? They don't. It's true that men have problems with aggression, but that would be both heterosexual men as well as homosexual men. And even there we are just talking statistics. There are men who are not aggressive as well as women who are. But if you are going to be honest about things, there are a great many more aggressive heterosexual men than there are aggressive homosexual men. Shall we therefore be afraid of heterosexuality?
No I never said that homosexuals harm others more than heterosexuals. What I said was one needs to protect oneself from homosexuals by studying what they are after. They are against the natural order,and noone has proved that their condition is genetic,which would have been understandable.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
No I never said that homosexuals harm others more than heterosexuals. What I said was one needs to protect oneself from homosexuals by studying what they are after. They are against the natural order,and noone has proved that their condition is genetic,which would have been understandable.
Shantanu, women have put up with men making untoward advances for gazillions of years, so I'm not feeling especially sympathetic for you.

I don't think homosexuality is genetic, although epigenetics may play a factor. I lean towards congenital reasons being the main source (hormones in the womb, etc), which is not the same thing, The reality is that there are multiple reasons for homosexuality, which is the obvious reason they can't seem to pin it on any one thing.

The thing is, does it really matter why someone is a homosexual? Unless they are actually bisexual and choose to feed the homosexual half of their nature, they really don't have a say in being homosexual. They only have a choice how they are going to live with it. You can't pray it away. You can't therapy it away. You can't surgery it away. You have to find a way to live with it.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Shantanu, women have put up with men making untoward advances for gazillions of years, so I'm not feeling especially sympathetic for you.

I don't think homosexuality is genetic, although epigenetics may play a factor. I lean towards congenital reasons being the main source (hormones in the womb, etc), which is not the same thing, The reality is that there are multiple reasons for homosexuality, which is the obvious reason they can't seem to pin it on any one thing.

The thing is, does it really matter why someone is a homosexual? Unless they are actually bisexual and choose to feed the homosexual half of their nature, they really don't have a say in being homosexual. They only have a choice how they are going to live with it. You can't pray it away. You can't therapy it away. You can't surgery it away. You have to find a way to live with it.
I have changed my staunch views over the years: when I was a human being I used to be concerned about homosexuality thinking that it was no good for evolution and the survival of the human species. And God told me that homosexuality was wrong and the normal course is heterosexuality.

Now that I am God I could not care less about such considerations as long as I keep myself to myself within the parameters of a married life with whatever I am endowed with physically.I accept reality and this is that I do not wish to give up my married and family life to try homosexuality to see if I would be comfortable with it or even bisexuality.

But people experiment. It is a behavioural thing, not genetic. I do not know what epigenetics is precisely but is it not that behaviour can alter the genes to emphasise a trait: please explain?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I have changed my staunch views over the years: when I was a human being I used to be concerned about homosexuality thinking that it was no good for evolution and the survival of the human species. And God told me that homosexuality was wrong and the normal course is heterosexuality.

Now that I am God I could not care less about such considerations as long as I keep myself to myself within the parameters of a married life with whatever I am endowed with physically.I accept reality and this is that I do not wish to give up my married and family life to try homosexuality to see if I would be comfortable with it or even bisexuality.

But people experiment. It is a behavioural thing, not genetic. I do not know what epigenetics is precisely but is it not that behaviour can alter the genes to emphasise a trait: please explain?
Some people are more sexually amorphous than others, and if they are, they tend to try different things and switch from one side to the other. Women tend to be more sexually amorrphous in general than men.

However, MOST people are NOT sexually amorphous. If you aren't, no one is going to make you become so.

You act like being around gays is a threat to your heterosexuality. It just isn't. You won't be a different person than you were before. You may become aware that you have desires which you had supressed before, but they were always there. However, you don't have to act on any desire, gay or straight. We are not dogs that have to do it every time we get the urge and opportunity. Should you discover that you do occasionally have some desires for the same sex, so what? You can still go your entire life and never so much as kiss the same sex. Read posts 364 and 396

AGAIN, there is no threat from being around gays. It is not contagious.

BTW, it is truly hard to talk with you seriously when you make snide comments about being God.
 
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Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Some people are more sexually amorphous than others, and if they are, they tend to try different things and switch from one side to the other. Women tend to be more sexually amorrphous in general than men.

However, MOST people are NOT sexually amorphous. If you aren't, no one is going to make you become so.

You act like being around gays is a threat to your heterosexuality. It just isn't. You won't be a different person than you were before. You may become aware that you have desires which you had supressed before, but they were always there. However, you don't have to act on any desire, gay or straight. We are not dogs that have to do it every time we get the urge and opportunity. Should you discover that you do occasionally have some desires for the same sex, so what? You can still go your entire life and never so much as kiss the same sex. Read posts 364 and 396

AGAIN, there is no threat from being around gays. It is not contagious.

BTW, it is truly hard to talk with you seriously when you make snide comments about being God.
I was molested by a man when I was 10 years of age, so I know how dangerous homosexuals are.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Child molesters are not necessarily gay. Please don't conflate the two.
I have no evidence one way or the other but will await further anecdotal evidence. I was giving my personal experience that has made me wary of people who abandon normal sexual and other behaviour to fit into human societies. They have no respect for humanity: I resisted the experience of being molested (attempted rape at my anal passage) as a 10 year old knowing it was wrong and I would continue to argue against such deviant conduct now.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I have no evidence one way or the other but will await further anecdotal evidence. I was giving my personal experience that has made me wary of people who abandon normal sexual and other behaviour to fit into human societies. They have no respect for humanity: I resisted the experience of being molested (attempted rape at my anal passage) as a 10 year old knowing it was wrong and I would continue to argue against such deviant conduct now.
Of course what was done to you was wrong. But once again, homosexuality and child molestation are not the same thing. You are basing your argument on an incorrect assumption.

Many child molesters are men that are attracted to adult female women and boys. That is not homosexuality. Any sex with a child is wrong due to the child's inability to have informed consent. It means that you were raped, even if you said yes.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Of course what was done to you was wrong. But once again, homosexuality and child molestation are not the same thing. You are basing your argument on an incorrect assumption.

Many child molesters are men that are attracted to adult female women and boys. That is not homosexuality. Any sex with a child is wrong due to the child's inability to have informed consent. It means that you were raped, even if you said yes.
Would you could argue that societies that allow child marriages (under 15 years of age) encourage child molestation?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I would agree with that.
Why are you such a supporter of homosexuality?
Because they appear to be born that way. And for the most part gay people go with gay people. They probably do not want you any more than you want them.

Do you understand yet that homosexuality And child abuse are not the same thing?
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Because they appear to be born that way. And for the most part gay people go with gay people. They probably do not want you any more than you want them.

Do you understand yet that homosexuality And child abuse are not the same thing?
Appearances can be deceptive: Homosexuals want youngsters as I have personal proof of this.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Appearances can be deceptive: Homosexuals want youngsters as I have personal proof of this.
If you want to play that game, then there's tons more evidence that hetero men want underage girls. Women and girls should avoid straight men, according to your stunted logic.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I was molested by a man when I was 10 years of age, so I know how dangerous homosexuals are.
This has nothing to do with gender or orientation. It's utterly reprehensible for anyone to force themselves on others. That you were a vulnerable child just compounds the evil.

I am sorry that happened to you.

But here's something else for you to consider. Being taught that you are an evil, hellbound, sinner (for something you have no control over) has a way of twisting and warping young minds. A huge amount of the dysfunctional behavior of gays has it's roots in that form of child psychological abuse. We could prevent a lot of the nasty stuff that happened to you and zillions of others by encouraging gay people to get married and get on with life.
Tom
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
This has nothing to do with gender or orientation. It's utterly reprehensible for anyone to force themselves on others. That you were a vulnerable child just compounds the evil.

I am sorry that happened to you.

But here's something else for you to consider. Being taught that you are an evil, hellbound, sinner (for something you have no control over) has a way of twisting and warping young minds. A huge amount of the dysfunctional behavior of gays has it's roots in that form of child psychological abuse. We could prevent a lot of the nasty stuff that happened to you and zillions of others by encouraging gay people to get married and get on with life.
Tom
If they believe in their gods they will attain the right outcome for themselves.
 
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