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Sex outside of marriage

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I wonder how many STDs and unwanted pregnancies we would have if sex was kept inside of marriage?

That said, for the sake of being Devil's Advocate, sometimes sex before marriage could help people better discern whether or not they want to spend the rest of their lives together.

What are your thoughts on the topic?

Where I live, in the office, condoms are available to everybody free.
If condoms were handed out freely to everybody, do you think most people would use them?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Isn't this pretty much a settled topic by now? I mean, only a handful of couples -- about 10% -- do not have sex before marriage these days. Forty years ago, this was an issue. Today? Not so much.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Isn't this pretty much a settled topic by now? I mean, only a handful of couples -- about 10% -- do not have sex before marriage these days. Forty years ago, this was an issue. Today? Not so much.
Ok.

I just question how many STDs and unwanted pregnancies there would be.

I'm trying to see the pros and cons. It was scary when I was diagnosed with a sexually transmitted disease.

I can only imagine the pain and fear people go through when they are diagnosed with something that's not even curable, or the potential agony , desperation, and fear a person feels when they have an unwanted pregnancy.

Perhaps I watch too much EWTN where women are in tears, traumatized, and haunted many years after the event.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Forty years ago, if I remember correctly, everyone was sleeping with everyone. :rolleyes:
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I had a Muslim tell me that if everyone obeyed Sharia law, there would be no STD epidemic, no drug or alcohol-related deaths, no drunk drivers or thieves Etc.

As much as i despise Sharia, I can't help but see some truth to that.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I had a Muslim tell me that if everyone obeyed Sharia law, there would be no STD epidemic, no drug or alcohol-related deaths, no drunk drivers or thieves Etc.

As much as i despise Sharia, I can't help but see some truth to that.
So I thought I'd run it by RF to get a second opinion lol
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I had a Muslim tell me that if everyone obeyed Sharia law, there would be no STD epidemic, no drug or alcohol-related deaths, no drunk drivers or thieves Etc.

As much as i despise Sharia, I can't help but see some truth to that.
Well, yes. That's true. But people aren't perfect. Even Islam recognises that. That's why there's repentance.

Sharia is just how Muslims are supposed to live and a way to settle disputes and other issues in the community. Jews have an equivalent. It's not just some theocratic law and none of the countries claiming to have their law based on Sharia actually fully implement it and there's a variety of views on it. Saudi Arabia follows the strictest school of fiqh, for example. But there's other systems that vary in their severity. I wouldn't be surprised if newer ones are created as most are centuries old.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
That said, for the sake of being Devil's Advocate, sometimes sex before marriage could help people better discern whether or not they want to spend the rest of their lives together.

What are your thoughts on the topic?

Sex is the most important part of the process, I have to try 1000 women
before making my final decision, if I'm still alive.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I had a Muslim tell me that if everyone obeyed Sharia law, there would be no STD epidemic, no drug or alcohol-related deaths, no drunk drivers or thieves Etc.

As much as i despise Sharia, I can't help but see some truth to that.
Police states are good at enforcing conformity and order.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Well, yes. That's true. But people aren't perfect. Even Islam recognises that. That's why there's repentance.

Sharia is just how Muslims are supposed to live and a way to settle disputes and other issues in the community. Jews have an equivalent. It's not just some theocratic law and none of the countries claiming to have their law based on Sharia actually fully implement it and there's a variety of views on it. Saudi Arabia follows the strictest school of fiqh, for example. But there's other systems that vary in their severity. I wouldn't be surprised if newer ones are created as most are centuries old.
There are many different interpretations of Sharia. I'm assuming most versions are opposed to drug abuse, alcohol, adultery, or fornication.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Many Muslim countries permit alcohol, fornication is illegal in most countries.
alcohol-ban-831805.jpg
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Isn't this pretty much a settled topic by now? I mean, only a handful of couples -- about 10% -- do not have sex before marriage these days. Forty years ago, this was an issue. Today? Not so much.
Where does that figure come from? It appears to be impossibly low to me.

EDIT: Oops sorry, I totally misread your post.
 
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