Hillary applauds 11 year old kid for taking a knee.

[Kangaroo Feathers]

That would be a difference between people like you and me. The flag absolutely represents the sacrifice of military personnel and anybody else in love of service and Country who paid the ultimate price of which we enjoy, that they themselves never will see or enjoy ever again .

it represents a great deal more than that. But my point stands. Invoking military personnel to avoid a conversation you don't want to have is, IMHO, at least as disrespectful as kneeling during a song.

I'll go further to say that if anyone is whining about people protesting during anthems because of "disrespect of troops", but that same anyone has never done anything to improve veteran services or conditions, then that anyone is a hypocrite of the first order.

How many threads have you started complaining about how "disrespectful to the troops" cuts to the VA or deporting of veterans is? More or fewer than you've started complaining about this protest that isn't directed at veterans in the first place? Hmmm?

 

[CruzNichaphor]

Do I have any evidence that you didn't rape the 11 year old child?

Yep.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Yep.

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[Cacotopia]

I love how people in here think freedom of expression is like something out of a horror story, like you should have to stand for the allegiance or put your hand over your heart, or salute the flag during the anthem.

Some of you are behaving like you think people that don't honor the flag. should get a bullet in the head for it.

 

[Cacotopia]

Trump is PROBABLY a paedophile. Prove he isn't.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Typical. It's what I expected from the woman.

Hillary Clinton backs kid who knelt during Pledge of Allegiance: 'Keep up the good work'

I think I'm going to take a knee BECAUSE of Hillary. AFTER the pledge of allegiance.

At least I would still show respect for the people who fought and died for this country. Unlike the **mod edit**.

Actually, taking a knee is a sign of respect to the armed forces, suggested as an alternative to just sitting during the national anthem by military veteran Nate Boyer specifically for that reason.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/veteran-kaepernick-take-a-knee-anthem/

In fact, it could be argued that standing during the anthem despite honestly believing that America is not living up to the ideals that the soldiers fought and died to protect is showing more disrespect than taking a knee, but that's just my opinion.

Jesus Christ and God almighty..... and to think these people are bidding to run the very country they show so much disrespect and disdain for.

You mean disrespect for such ideals as freedom of speech and right to protest?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I agree with you except this should be done with your own flag ($12.95 at Walmart) or own your own turf. This public display of taking a knee is simply an attention getting exercise, not a protest. That flag is simple a colorful piece of cloth, but there are young men (and now women) who did not get to experience the life that I have been able to live because they believe in the principles that this flag represents enough to lay down their lives so you would have the opportunity to be as stupid as you wish. I believe you have the right to protest, but when you "take a knee" in front of the flag I don't a conscientious act; all I can see are dead and wounded 18 and 19 year old who would willing volunteer to go in harm's way so you don't have to wondering why.

Translation: "I believe you have the right to peaceful protest, but only in a form I find personally acceptable and for a cause I agree with."

 

[Augustus]

Typical. It's what I expected from the woman.

Hillary Clinton backs kid who knelt during Pledge of Allegiance: 'Keep up the good work'

I think I'm going to take a knee BECAUSE of Hillary. AFTER the pledge of allegiance.

At least I would still show respect for the people who fought and died for this country. Unlike the **mod edit**.

Jesus Christ and God almighty..... and to think these people are bidding to run the very country they show so much disrespect and disdain for.

Nice way to teach the kids Hillary .

HDS

 

[Twilight Hue]

Actually, taking a knee is a sign of respect to the armed forces, suggested as an alternative to just sitting during the national anthem by military veteran Nate Boyer specifically for that reason.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/veteran-kaepernick-take-a-knee-anthem/

In fact, it could be argued that standing during the anthem despite honestly believing that America is not living up to the ideals that the soldiers fought and died to protect is showing more disrespect than taking a knee, but that's just my opinion.


You mean disrespect for such ideals as freedom of speech and right to protest?

Speaking as an ex member of of the Armed Forces that's a bunch of b*******.

What irks me about the whole thing is it is a completely selfish act that cries me me me. Look at me me me. I would look a lot more favorably on taking a knee if it was done after the anthem for those who have fallen and paid the price. I'm sorry but you don't set people like that aside for your own issues.

What you ought to do is study on the colors of the flag and come to back to me as to what each color represents.

 

[Father Heathen]

When someone had a reputation for sle

I love how people in here think freedom of expression is like something out of a horror story, like you should have to stand for the allegiance or put your hand over your heart, or salute the flag during the anthem.

Some of you are behaving like you think people that don't honor the flag. should get a bullet in the head for it.

It's ironic because the flag is supposed to represent freedom, yet they get angry when people exercise that freedom.

 

[Twilight Hue]

"**mod edit**"? Seriously? What purpose does name calling serve?

Feels pretty darn good. What? Name-calling is only reserved for the left here?

Thought I'd join in on the fun.

 

[Augustus]

Speaking as an ex member of of the Armed Forces that's a bunch of b*******.

"Speaking as an ex member of the armed forces, my opinion on political issues should count more than other members of the armed forces who disagree with me. People fought and died so I could use them as a crutch in political disputes, so it's b******* when other veterans have the temerity to offer views that conflict with my own thus I will dismiss them out of hand."

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Speaking as an ex member of of the Armed Forces that's a bunch of b*******.

Based on what?

What irks me about the whole thing is it is a completely selfish act that cries me me me. Look at me me me.

Standing up for the rights of others is selfish?

I would look a lot more favorably on taking a knee if it was done after the anthem for those who have fallen and paid the price.

What difference does that make? Why not pay respects to the soldiers and the values they died for DURING the anthem, while not being a hypocrite and standing for them despite believing those values aren't being lived up to?

I'm sorry but you don't set people like that aside for your own issues.

They didn't. Taking a knee is a deliberate choice compared to remaining seated specifically BECAUSE it shows respect for soldiers.

What you ought to do is study on the colors of the flag and come to back to me as to what each color represents.

Taking a knee is a statement that the USA isn't living up to the values espoused by the flag, and the values that soldiers fought and died for.

Or do you only believe in those values when its comfortable for you?

 

[Cacotopia]

It's a piece of cloth. Arguing that it's more important that people's lives is ludicrous.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Based on what?


Standing up for the rights of others is selfish?


What difference does that make?


They didn't. Taking a knee is a deliberate choice compared to remaining seated specifically BECAUSE it shows respect for soldiers.


Taking a knee is a statement that the USA isn't living up to the values espoused by the flag, and the values that soldiers fought and died for.

Or do you only believe in those values when its comfortable for you?

"Speaking as an ex member of the armed forces, my opinion on political issues should count more than other members of the armed forces who disagree with me. People fought and died so I could use them as a crutch in political disputes, so it's b******* when other veterans have the temerity to offer views that conflict with my own thus I will dismiss them out of hand."

Boy are you guys just a sorry lot to behold.

It's obviously too much trouble for people in a collective setting to at least stand or salute for a few minutes while the anthems being played then take a knee afterwards.

You would have garnered a lot more respect for that, and bring attention to the issues. But no you have to put yourself ahead of it all and screw the anthem because you're more important. That's how I'm reading it.

I'm sorry I'm just not that disrespectful to those who have died.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

"Speaking as an ex member of the armed forces, my opinion on political issues should count more than other members of the armed forces who disagree with me. People fought and died so I could use them as a crutch in political disputes, so it's b******* when other veterans have the temerity to offer views that conflict with my own thus I will dismiss them out of hand."

I'm a veteran and I approve this message

 

[Augustus]

I'm sorry I'm just not that disrespectful to those who have died.

You are disrespectful enough to speak on their behalf and use them to score cheap political points though.

 

[Cacotopia]

I am curious, do you support every military engagement America has been involved in, or every decision the American government has ever made both civil and foreign? Every law passed? Do you think everything that is described as an "American thing" is great?

Basically because it has the flag and identity of America attached to it, you would blindly follow it without questioning it, doesn't matter if you might disagree, push those thoughts of sedition down and follow.

Cause that's what I am reading from you. Do patriots not act against the will of the government, or were our founding fathers and anyone that pushed towards the good of the American people just a bunch of traitors that deserve the gallows.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Boy are you guys just a sorry lot to behold.

It's obviously too much trouble for people in a collective setting to at least stand or salute for a few minutes while the anthems being played then take a knee afterwards.

You would have garnered a lot more respect for that, and bring attention to the issues. But no you have to put yourself ahead of it all and screw the anthem because you're more important. That's how I'm reading it.

I'm sorry I'm just not that disrespectful to those who have died.

I see nothing disrespectful to veterans about it. Also, given your recent epiphany about the history of police in America, perhaps you might like to take a moment to think about just who benefits from the American secular religion revering the military. 'Cos it sure as spit ain't the veterans getting anything out of it.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

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...and he was never heard from again...