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Jesus is all that really matters
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The Anointed
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Well don’t worry about that mate, cos you won’t hear it too many more times.
We might not know the hour or the day, but when we see the signs that we were warned to watch for, then we will know that the time is near.
From the Book of Jubilees 4: 30; “And He (Adam) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: ‘On the day thou eat thereof ye shall die.’ For this reason, Adam did not complete the years of that first day; for He died during it.”
In Colossians 2: 16-17; Paul has this to say; “Let no one make rules about what you eat or drink or about holidays or the New Moon festival or the Sabbath. All these are but a shadow of things to come in the future, etc.”
Adam died in the first day at the age of 930, we are now at the closing of the sixth day, the day before the Great Sabbath that is the reality of the weekly Sabbath, ‘The Day of the Lord’ the seventh period of one thousand years in which the lord shall rule with justice, the Great Sabbath of one thousand years.
According to Jewish time, the first destruction of the Temple of Solomon, was 3338 AM, which is 3338 years from Adam. Our time for that destruction of the temple is 587 BC. So adding 587 to 3338, we see that from Adam the father of Seth, to 1 BC=1AD there is 3925 years, add to that the current date, 2018, (3,925+2018=5,943).
According to these dates, which are very ambiguous, we are now living in the 5,943 rd year from Adam the father of Seth, which supposedly leaves us another 57 years before the close of the 6th day and the beginning of the 7th, which is the great Sabbath, “The Day of the Lord” the seventh period of one thousand years from the day that Adam ate of the forbidden fruit and died in that first day at the age of 930, which Sabbath Day begins after the greatest period of tribulation that this world has ever seen, and we are told in scripture, “But for the intervention of the Lord, no flesh would survive that period of tribulation.”
Acts 17: 30-31; God has overlooked the times when people did not know him, but now he commands all of them everywhere to turn away from their evil ways. For He has fixed a day [The Great Sabbath] in which he shall judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof to everyone by raising that MAN [Jesus] from death.
Yeah, I make a point to have a box of Satanic Bibles sitting next to the door for every single one.
Anyway, I find it strange to interpret someone else's actions with the one's own belief system. Can someone be said to sin if they are ignorant of the offense nor have any belief in your particular dogma? These are questions most Christian's simply cannot answer intelligently.
I don't, for example, expect the average Christian to understand the merits of Satanism nor to live by that standard. Why do they have such a hard time figuring that out?
74x12
Well-Known Member
I wish it was that simple. Nonetheless, I tell the truth. Demons are always keeping people from the truth. They're always putting curses on people and spiritual or mental binds. They don't allow people to see the truth.
But, what proof do you have that this is going on? And, I don't mean via the Bible. People aren't "plagued" by demons just because they disagree with you or spiritual belief in Jehovah/Jesus.
Anyway, what demons are you speaking of? I know demons that impart knowledge or help you study, demons that help you find lost things, and demons that heal people. It sort of strikes me as immediately stupid to think everything called demon is bad from this perspective of knowledge. How much do you actually know about demons that doesn't come from one book? I'm thinking your knowledge gap is the basis of your fear.
The Anointed
Well-Known Member
We might not know the hour or the day, but when we see the signs that we were warned to watch for, then we will know that the time is near.
From the Book of Jubilees 4: 30; “And He (Adam) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: ‘On the day thou eat thereof ye shall die.’ For this reason, Adam did not complete the years of that first day; for He died during it.”
In Colossians 2: 16-17; Paul has this to say; “Let no one make rules about what you eat or drink or about holidays or the New Moon festival or the Sabbath. All these are but a shadow of things to come in the future, etc.”
Adam died in the first day at the age of 930, we are now at the closing of the sixth day, the day before the Great Sabbath that is the reality of the weekly Sabbath, ‘The Day of the Lord’ the seventh period of one thousand years in which the lord shall rule with justice, the Great Sabbath of one thousand years.
According to Jewish time, the first destruction of the Temple of Solomon, was 3338 AM, which is 3338 years from Adam. Our time for that destruction of the temple is 587 BC. So adding 587 to 3338, we see that from Adam the father of Seth, to 1 BC=1AD there is 3925 years, add to that the current date, 2017, (3,925+2018=5,943). [Cain and Abel belonged to an age of man prior to this age which is descended from Seth.]
According to these dates, which are very ambiguous, we are now living in the 5,943 rd year from Adam the father of Seth, which supposedly leaves us, between now and another 58 years before the close of the 6th day and the beginning of the 7th, which is the great Sabbath, “The Day of the Lord” the seventh period of one thousand years from the day that Adam ate of the forbidden fruit and died in that first day at the age of 930, which Sabbath Day begins after the greatest period of tribulation that this world has ever seen, and we are told in scripture, “But for the intervention of the Lord, no flesh would survive that period of tribulation.”
Acts 17: 30-31; God has overlooked the times when people did not know him, but now he commands all of them everywhere to turn away from their evil ways. For He has fixed a day [The Great Sabbath] in which he shall judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof to everyone by raising that MAN [Jesus] from death.
The war to end all wars, which brings in the thousand years of peace, begins in the middle East.
Zechariah 14: The Lord will gather all the nations together to make war on Jerusalem. The city will be taken, the houses Looted, and the women raped. Half the people will go into exile, but the rest of them will not be taken away from the city.
But when this does happen, there will be dancing and rejoicing in the streets of Palestine, just as there was when the twin Towers were destroyed and 2,996 innocent people died and more than 6,000 others were injured.
It is then that the Lord will fight against those nations as he has fought in times past for his chosen people.
The Anointed
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Zechariah 14: The Lord will gather all the nations together to make war on Jerusalem. The city will be taken, the houses Looted, and the women raped. Half the people will go into exile, but the rest of them will not be taken away from the city. Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he has fought in times Past. (This has not yet happened)
Numbers 24: 17, "A king, like a bright star, will arise in that Nation. Like a comet he will come from Israel. He will strike the leaders of Moab and beat down all the people of Seth. He will conquer his enemies in Edom and make their land his property. While Israel continues victorious. The Nation of Israel will trample them down and wipe out the last survivors."
Zechariah 12: 10; "They will look upon me and see the one who they pierced, and they shall mourn for him as one mourns for an only child etc."
To see the man Jesus, who they pierced, is to see Enoch the cornerstone to whom the spirits of the righteous were gathered in the evolution of the MOST HIGH in the creation..
Isaiah 63: 1-6, "Who is this coming from the city of Bozrah in Edom? Who is this so splendidly dressed in red, marching along in power and strength?" It is the Lord, powerful to save, coming to announce his victory. "Why is his clothing so red, like that of a man who tramples grapes to make wine?"
The Lord answers, "I have trampled the nations like grapes and no one came to help me. I trampled them in my anger, and their blood has stained all my clothing. I DECIDED THAT THE TIME TO SAVE MY PEOPLE HAD COME; it was time to punish their enemies.
I was amazed when I looked and saw that there was no one to help me. But my anger made me strong, and I won the victory myself. In my anger I trampled whole nations and shattered them, I poured out their life’s blood on the earth."
See Zechariah 14. The Lord will come to fight for his people Israel as he has fought in times past and from within the inner most sanctuary of his tabernacle (The kingdom of God is within you) which temporary tabernacle is the body of mankind, he will fight the enemies of Israel; those Nations who surround Jerusalem in their attempt to drive God's chosen people into the sea.
The African tectonic plate in its northern migration, grinds against the Arabian plate in a line that runs up through the Red Sea and along the Jordon valley beneath the Mount of Olives.
Zechariah 14: 3-4; Then the Lord will go out and fight for his people as he has fought in times past. At that time he will stand on the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two, from east to west by a large valley. Half of the mountain (On the African plate) will move northward, and half of it (On the Arabian plate) will move southward.
Could the violent activity around the earth at this time, be the trigger that will cause the super volcano beneath Yellow stone to erupt, enveloping the planet in a cloud of debris? And that day shall be neither day nor night, but a perpetual twilight.
Zechariah 14: 13; Then the Lord will throw those nations that surround Jerusalem, into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, cooked to the bone, will slide from their bodies while still standing. Then all the surviving Nations will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship and pay tribute to the Lord who will rule the whole world with justice for a thousand years, and woe betide those who refuse to do so.
Then all the godless people of this world, and all those, who in their Synagogues, Mosques, and Cathedrals of stone, marble, or crystal, who prostate themselves on the floors or who sing and dance with their eyes and hands raised to the heavens in worship of a god they neither know or understand, will bow down and worship THE God of the Bible, the Most High in the creation, ‘The Son of Man’ who evolves from the body of mankind.
It is in that thousand years of peace that all our resources will be used to prepare for the ultimate destruction of all physical life forms that remain on this planet. Knowing that which is to occur after the one thousand year Sabbath, when heavenly fire incinerate the surface of the earth, with the great wealth that will be paid in tribute by the nations of the world during that thousand year rule of our king and high priest, genetic banks of all physical life forms will be created, (The Ark) and sent to a place of safety in order that when the incinerated earth is once again able to sustain physical life forms, Plants will be planted, animals will be created anew, and when the system for the sustainability of mankind has been put in place, the Lord, our brother, king, and high priest will say, "And now, let us make man in our image and likeness." And a new and more humble Race of men will people this earth.
Numbers 24: 17, "A king, like a bright star, will arise in that Nation. Like a comet he will come from Israel. He will strike the leaders of Moab and beat down all the people of Seth. He will conquer his enemies in Edom and make their land his property. While Israel continues victorious. The Nation of Israel will trample them down and wipe out the last survivors."
Zechariah 12: 10; "They will look upon me and see the one who they pierced, and they shall mourn for him as one mourns for an only child etc."
To see the man Jesus, who they pierced, is to see Enoch the cornerstone to whom the spirits of the righteous were gathered in the evolution of the MOST HIGH in the creation..
Isaiah 63: 1-6, "Who is this coming from the city of Bozrah in Edom? Who is this so splendidly dressed in red, marching along in power and strength?" It is the Lord, powerful to save, coming to announce his victory. "Why is his clothing so red, like that of a man who tramples grapes to make wine?"
The Lord answers, "I have trampled the nations like grapes and no one came to help me. I trampled them in my anger, and their blood has stained all my clothing. I DECIDED THAT THE TIME TO SAVE MY PEOPLE HAD COME; it was time to punish their enemies.
I was amazed when I looked and saw that there was no one to help me. But my anger made me strong, and I won the victory myself. In my anger I trampled whole nations and shattered them, I poured out their life’s blood on the earth."
See Zechariah 14. The Lord will come to fight for his people Israel as he has fought in times past and from within the inner most sanctuary of his tabernacle (The kingdom of God is within you) which temporary tabernacle is the body of mankind, he will fight the enemies of Israel; those Nations who surround Jerusalem in their attempt to drive God's chosen people into the sea.
The African tectonic plate in its northern migration, grinds against the Arabian plate in a line that runs up through the Red Sea and along the Jordon valley beneath the Mount of Olives.
Zechariah 14: 3-4; Then the Lord will go out and fight for his people as he has fought in times past. At that time he will stand on the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two, from east to west by a large valley. Half of the mountain (On the African plate) will move northward, and half of it (On the Arabian plate) will move southward.
Could the violent activity around the earth at this time, be the trigger that will cause the super volcano beneath Yellow stone to erupt, enveloping the planet in a cloud of debris? And that day shall be neither day nor night, but a perpetual twilight.
Zechariah 14: 13; Then the Lord will throw those nations that surround Jerusalem, into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, cooked to the bone, will slide from their bodies while still standing. Then all the surviving Nations will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship and pay tribute to the Lord who will rule the whole world with justice for a thousand years, and woe betide those who refuse to do so.
Then all the godless people of this world, and all those, who in their Synagogues, Mosques, and Cathedrals of stone, marble, or crystal, who prostate themselves on the floors or who sing and dance with their eyes and hands raised to the heavens in worship of a god they neither know or understand, will bow down and worship THE God of the Bible, the Most High in the creation, ‘The Son of Man’ who evolves from the body of mankind.
It is in that thousand years of peace that all our resources will be used to prepare for the ultimate destruction of all physical life forms that remain on this planet. Knowing that which is to occur after the one thousand year Sabbath, when heavenly fire incinerate the surface of the earth, with the great wealth that will be paid in tribute by the nations of the world during that thousand year rule of our king and high priest, genetic banks of all physical life forms will be created, (The Ark) and sent to a place of safety in order that when the incinerated earth is once again able to sustain physical life forms, Plants will be planted, animals will be created anew, and when the system for the sustainability of mankind has been put in place, the Lord, our brother, king, and high priest will say, "And now, let us make man in our image and likeness." And a new and more humble Race of men will people this earth.
The Anointed
Well-Known Member
One of the worst tribulations that the earth has suffered in recent times occurred some 75,000 years ago with the Toba super eruption, which was a super volcanic eruption that occurred sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra Indonesia). It is recognised as one of earth’s largest eruptions.
Thousands of cubic kilometres of material would have been blasted out into the stratosphere blocking out the light all over the world, turning the sun and moon into huge blood red orbs and causing the earth’s temperature to drop some 21% and it would possibly have been a thousand years, before rainbows could form in our atmosphere again.
The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world’s proto-human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.
Could an eruption such as this, be more of a blessing, than a curse, could a protective shield around the earth to protect us from increased heavenly radiation for a period of time, be established, to give us time to prepare for the ultimate end of all physical life forms that remain on this planet, and if so how?
The huge column of molten rock that feeds Yellowstone's "super volcano" dives deeper and fills a magma chamber 20 percent bigger than previous estimates, scientists say. The finding, based on the most detailed model yet of the region's geologic plumbing, suggests that Yellowstone's magma chamber contains even more fuel for a future "super eruption" than anyone had suspected.
The model shows that a 45-mile-wide (72-kilometer-wide) plume of hot, molten rock rises to feed the super volcano from at least 410 miles (660 kilometers) beneath Earth's surface. The deepest part of the plume actually sits beneath the town of Wisdom, Montana, about 150 miles (241 kilometers) from Yellowstone National Park, a steady flow of hot rock in Earth's upper mantle causes the plume to drift to the southeast, where it fills a magma chamber that sits just 3.7 to 10 miles (5.9 to 16 kilometers) beneath Yellowstone.
Other new data show that Yellowstone's magma chamber extends 13 miles (21 kilometers) farther to the northeast than previously thought. Scientists had already known that Yellowstone is a volcanic hot spot, and that within the past two million years, the region has seen three mammoth eruptions at intervals of about 600,000 years, and it is 640,000 years since it’s last eruption. Such events it is said, can produce at least 77 cubic miles (360 cubic kilometers) of basalt: enough to bury Washington, D.C., under nearly 7,200 feet (2,200 meters) of solidified lava.
The ground beneath Yellowstone is said to be 74cm higher today than it was in 1923, which indicates a massive swelling beneath the Park. Scientists believe that the reservoir of Magma is filling at an alarming rate and as that volcano erupts with an average cycle of 600,000 years and the last eruption was more than 640,000 years ago we are overdue for annihilation.
Forget about the death total within the immediate period of the explosive eruption, but just imagine what happens to our communication and ground and air transport systems, fuel supplies, power grids, atomic power stations spewing out radiation into the atmosphere, etc, etc.
What did Jesus say concerning that day? "Pray that your flight be not in winter, (The nuclear/volcanic winter) and woe unto the women who are pregnant in those days, perhaps the evolutionary son of man, came from mutants that are to be born in those days.
Zechariah 14: 6; And it shall come to pass in that day, (The Lord’s Day of one thousand years) that the light shall not be clear or dark: and it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that evening time it shall be light. On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter. The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.
Could the Great prophesied war in the Middle East be the trigger to set off the volcano beneath Yellowstone, bringing in a thousand year period of twilight in which rainbows can't form in our atmosphere? And when, according to Isaiah 65: 20, "If one were to die during that period at the age of 100, they would be but a child.
Revelation 20: 7-9: It is after the thousand years have ended (How long after? Nobody knows.) that the last trumpet will sound and the fire from heaven descends and incinerates the surface of this planet as prophesied by Zephaniah.
Zephaniah 1: 2; The Lord said, 'I am going to destroy everything on earth, all human beings and animals, birds and fish. I will bring about the downfall of the wicked. I will destroy all mankind, and no survivors will be left. I the Lord have spoken."
Verse 18; On the day when the Lord shows his fury, not even all their silver and gold will save them. The whole earth will be destroyed by the fire of his anger. He will put an end--- a sudden end----to everyone who lives on earth.
But all shall not fall asleep in death, for at the sound of the last trumpet, the chosen will be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, from bodies of corruptible matter, into glorious bodies of incorruptible blinding light.
Thousands of cubic kilometres of material would have been blasted out into the stratosphere blocking out the light all over the world, turning the sun and moon into huge blood red orbs and causing the earth’s temperature to drop some 21% and it would possibly have been a thousand years, before rainbows could form in our atmosphere again.
The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world’s proto-human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.
Could an eruption such as this, be more of a blessing, than a curse, could a protective shield around the earth to protect us from increased heavenly radiation for a period of time, be established, to give us time to prepare for the ultimate end of all physical life forms that remain on this planet, and if so how?
The huge column of molten rock that feeds Yellowstone's "super volcano" dives deeper and fills a magma chamber 20 percent bigger than previous estimates, scientists say. The finding, based on the most detailed model yet of the region's geologic plumbing, suggests that Yellowstone's magma chamber contains even more fuel for a future "super eruption" than anyone had suspected.
The model shows that a 45-mile-wide (72-kilometer-wide) plume of hot, molten rock rises to feed the super volcano from at least 410 miles (660 kilometers) beneath Earth's surface. The deepest part of the plume actually sits beneath the town of Wisdom, Montana, about 150 miles (241 kilometers) from Yellowstone National Park, a steady flow of hot rock in Earth's upper mantle causes the plume to drift to the southeast, where it fills a magma chamber that sits just 3.7 to 10 miles (5.9 to 16 kilometers) beneath Yellowstone.
Other new data show that Yellowstone's magma chamber extends 13 miles (21 kilometers) farther to the northeast than previously thought. Scientists had already known that Yellowstone is a volcanic hot spot, and that within the past two million years, the region has seen three mammoth eruptions at intervals of about 600,000 years, and it is 640,000 years since it’s last eruption. Such events it is said, can produce at least 77 cubic miles (360 cubic kilometers) of basalt: enough to bury Washington, D.C., under nearly 7,200 feet (2,200 meters) of solidified lava.
The ground beneath Yellowstone is said to be 74cm higher today than it was in 1923, which indicates a massive swelling beneath the Park. Scientists believe that the reservoir of Magma is filling at an alarming rate and as that volcano erupts with an average cycle of 600,000 years and the last eruption was more than 640,000 years ago we are overdue for annihilation.
Forget about the death total within the immediate period of the explosive eruption, but just imagine what happens to our communication and ground and air transport systems, fuel supplies, power grids, atomic power stations spewing out radiation into the atmosphere, etc, etc.
What did Jesus say concerning that day? "Pray that your flight be not in winter, (The nuclear/volcanic winter) and woe unto the women who are pregnant in those days, perhaps the evolutionary son of man, came from mutants that are to be born in those days.
Zechariah 14: 6; And it shall come to pass in that day, (The Lord’s Day of one thousand years) that the light shall not be clear or dark: and it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that evening time it shall be light. On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter. The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.
Could the Great prophesied war in the Middle East be the trigger to set off the volcano beneath Yellowstone, bringing in a thousand year period of twilight in which rainbows can't form in our atmosphere? And when, according to Isaiah 65: 20, "If one were to die during that period at the age of 100, they would be but a child.
Revelation 20: 7-9: It is after the thousand years have ended (How long after? Nobody knows.) that the last trumpet will sound and the fire from heaven descends and incinerates the surface of this planet as prophesied by Zephaniah.
Zephaniah 1: 2; The Lord said, 'I am going to destroy everything on earth, all human beings and animals, birds and fish. I will bring about the downfall of the wicked. I will destroy all mankind, and no survivors will be left. I the Lord have spoken."
Verse 18; On the day when the Lord shows his fury, not even all their silver and gold will save them. The whole earth will be destroyed by the fire of his anger. He will put an end--- a sudden end----to everyone who lives on earth.
But all shall not fall asleep in death, for at the sound of the last trumpet, the chosen will be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, from bodies of corruptible matter, into glorious bodies of incorruptible blinding light.
godnotgod
Thou art That
"Jesus is all that really matters" is true only if you put stock in the notion that his crucifixion and death meant the redemption of sin via the shedding of his blood, a blood that is necessarily divine, and has the power of redemption and salvation. But the reality is that there was no such 'Jesus' in the 1st century; there was a man named Yeshua who was a Nazarene, whose teachings did not include blood sacrifice. As it turns out, the breath-based teachings of Yeshua were overwritten by the blood-based teachings of the pagan god Mithra, as a clever political device to lure the pagans into Paul's new religion.* Since the pagans already had the promise of eternal life in Mithra, Paul had to offer at least that in order to convert them. Ultimately it served Constantine's agenda as a means of control over the citizenry by making it a state religion. The blood sacrifice of the Crucifixion is central to Christianity, but Christians have instead made The Resurrection the centerpiece of their religion. It is not enough to profess that you are the Messiah and shed your blood; you have to perform a miracle to prove that you are who you say you are. As Paul said, without the Resurrection, nothing else matters. But in reality, this emphasis on the Resurrection is a sign of a lack of faith in the word of 'Jesus'.
"Jesus is all that really matters" is to project one's ego onto an 'other', and to place that other on a pedestal. This is known as 'Idolatrous Love', one of the Five Egotistical States in the field of psychology.
1. APPARENT LOVE OF OTHERS BY PROJECTION OF THE EGO **
This is idolatrous love, in which the ego is projected onto another being, [ie 'Jesus']. The pretension to divinity as 'distinct' has left my organism and is now fixed onto the organism of the other. The affective situation resembles that above, with the difference that the other has taken my place in my scale of values. I desire the existence of the other-idol, and am against everything that is opposed to them. I no longer love my own organism except in so far as it is the faithful servant of the idol; apart from that I have no further sentiments towards my organism, I am indifferent to it, and, if necessary, I can give my life for the safety of my idol (I can sacrifice my organism to my Ego fixed on the idol; like Empedocles throwing himself down the crater of Etna in order to immortalize his Ego). As for the rest of the world, I hate it if it is hostile to my idol; if it is not hostile and if my contemplation of the idol fills me with joy (that is to say, with egotistical affirmation), I love indiscriminately all the rest of the world. If the idolized being rejects me to the point of forbidding me all possession of my Ego in them, the apparent love can be turned to hate.
* The Church did much the same thing in Mexico by 'adopting' Tonantzin, the Aztec goddess of fertility, and transforming her into Our Lady of Guadalupe Hidalgo, in order to convert some 2 million indigenous Indios into Christianity. The Indios simply followed where their beloved goddess dwelt. Theirs was a matriarchal culture.
** This simplified exposition of the doctrine of projection, known to all classical psychologists, may appear to ignore the detailed analysis of this process expounded by some. Terms such as 'Ego' have not, however, a standardized meaning, and the reader may be well-advised to understand the word here as including any aspect of the psyche whose image might be projected. -Translator's note.]
http://selfdefinition.org/zen/benoit/supreme-doctrine/ch-08-the-egotistical-states.htm
"Jesus is all that really matters" is to project one's ego onto an 'other', and to place that other on a pedestal. This is known as 'Idolatrous Love', one of the Five Egotistical States in the field of psychology.
1. APPARENT LOVE OF OTHERS BY PROJECTION OF THE EGO **
This is idolatrous love, in which the ego is projected onto another being, [ie 'Jesus']. The pretension to divinity as 'distinct' has left my organism and is now fixed onto the organism of the other. The affective situation resembles that above, with the difference that the other has taken my place in my scale of values. I desire the existence of the other-idol, and am against everything that is opposed to them. I no longer love my own organism except in so far as it is the faithful servant of the idol; apart from that I have no further sentiments towards my organism, I am indifferent to it, and, if necessary, I can give my life for the safety of my idol (I can sacrifice my organism to my Ego fixed on the idol; like Empedocles throwing himself down the crater of Etna in order to immortalize his Ego). As for the rest of the world, I hate it if it is hostile to my idol; if it is not hostile and if my contemplation of the idol fills me with joy (that is to say, with egotistical affirmation), I love indiscriminately all the rest of the world. If the idolized being rejects me to the point of forbidding me all possession of my Ego in them, the apparent love can be turned to hate.
* The Church did much the same thing in Mexico by 'adopting' Tonantzin, the Aztec goddess of fertility, and transforming her into Our Lady of Guadalupe Hidalgo, in order to convert some 2 million indigenous Indios into Christianity. The Indios simply followed where their beloved goddess dwelt. Theirs was a matriarchal culture.
** This simplified exposition of the doctrine of projection, known to all classical psychologists, may appear to ignore the detailed analysis of this process expounded by some. Terms such as 'Ego' have not, however, a standardized meaning, and the reader may be well-advised to understand the word here as including any aspect of the psyche whose image might be projected. -Translator's note.]
http://selfdefinition.org/zen/benoit/supreme-doctrine/ch-08-the-egotistical-states.htm
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I find that making effort because one believes if pleases a bronze age myth kind of spooky.
I make effort to do the best i can for my family.
So if I said @hififish is the messiah, and then, G-d forbid, he died tomorrow, I would say 'It's alright, he'll come back and do all those things he's supposed to do,' how believable would that sound to you?LOL... Yes... I know you want Him to be sooner, but He is never late
Can you quote the scriptural reference please?
I saw him perform many miracles that you weren't there to witness. Now, I understand, you asked for scripture, and it's never stated in scripture that the messiah shall perform miracles as even false prophets can do that, but I'm saying it anyway. I saw Hififish turn water into whisky and he walked on hot flowing lava.Can you quote the scriptural reference please?
Anyway, I find it strange to interpret someone else's actions with the one's own belief system. Can someone be said to sin if they are ignorant of the offense nor have any belief in your particular dogma? These are questions most Christian's simply cannot answer intelligently.
Most Christians or those just 'professing to be Christians' as most of Christendom professes.
Please remember Jesus said MANY would come ' in his name ' but prove false at Matthew 7:21-23.
Sure many peoples throughout the centuries were ignorant of the offence.
1) Before Jesus, God only dealt with only one nation and that nation was only the nation of 'ancient' Israel.
2) The majority of mankind has lived and died without knowing about the Bible or Jesus - John 3:13.
3) Resurrection is offered 'except' for those committing the unforgivable sin of Matthew 12:32.
4) I find, according to Acts of the Apostles 17:30-31 now the 'times of ignorance' is past because God is calling all of us to ' repent ' if we do Not wish to 'perish ' (be destroyed) as per 2 Peter 3:9.
Those who sinned through No fault of their own will be resurrected (we don't carry Adam's guilt), or as Acts of the Apostles 24:15 says that both the 'righteous and unrighteous' will have a resurrection.
Those who practice sin willfully after receiving knowledge of the truth there remains No more hope for them according to Hebrews 10:26. So, the BIG difference is between doing wrong on purpose, willfully, premeditated, or just by accident.
Only the wicked will be destroyed forever (perish) as per Psalms 92:7.
I don't see a Scripture saying Armageddon begins in the Middle East.
I do see the verses at 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 that when ' they ' (powers that be) will be saying, "Peace and Security" that saying will be the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
Since judgement starts with the ' house (religious house) of God ' as per 1 Peter 4:17, then the coming great tribulation begins when the ' powers that be ' suddenly and surprisingly turn on religion.
I find too we are nearing a soon coming ' time of separation' to take place on Earth as per Matthew 25:31-33,37,40.
Jesus, as judge, will favor the humble figurative ' sheep ' whereas the haughty ' goats ' will be destroyed forever.
ALL the wicked will be 'destroyed forever' as per Psalms 92:7.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked as per Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16.
Then follow him, I guess.... I still follow Jesus.
But, of course the question remains... If Jesus' sacrifice redeems all sin then what sin could you possibly do that's greater than the power of Jesus' sacrifice? Unless of course, he's not as powerful as they say.
If Jesus' sacrifice was eternal then placing conditions such as worrying about your own sins hardly sells the fact that one believes that. If Jesus died for only sins up to the point of his death, then you limit him in power massively, imho. The Bible contradicts itself in many ways, and that basically leaves all of these concepts up for interpretation. I do find it amusing that you've taken the time to cherry pick for the bits that suit you. From my perspective, Jehovah wants slaves and just because he's willing to murder his own son to get them doesn't impress me but makes me even like him less.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
sorry to be sooooooo late.....
gotts ask......qualifications were not listed....
do we just 'plug in'?
something like the Borg of Star Trek fame?