Is God Omniscient as people say?

[Faithofchristian]

#Post #9.@Faithofchristian

Respond?

I did, I ask you what exactly are you trying to say.

 

[Faithofchristian]

''omniscient'' isn't actually directly in the bible. it's more of an understanding.

If it's not made mention in the Bible, then you can not add to, what is not there, otherwise you would people adding to and delateing from the bible.

So it stands as is, there is no where in the Bible that claims God as being all knowing or omniscient. As people would like.

 

[syo]

If it's not made mention in the Bible, then you can not add to, what is not there, otherwise you would people adding to and delateing from the bible.

So it stands as is, there is no where in the Bible that claims God as being all knowing or omniscient. As people would like.

perhaps. but isn't it logical that God knows his creations?

 

[Sleeppy]

I did, I ask you what exactly are you trying to say.

Foreknowledge is Biblical. There are several verses that attest. Post #9, for example gives several.

Why not take a few verses, from Post # 9, and explain briefly for each, why they are not describing foreknowledge?

 

[Faithofchristian]

perhaps. but isn't it logical that God knows his creations?

If you study, you would find, that God searches the hearts to see whether there is good or bad.
Now if God knows all things, Then why would God need to search the heart, to see whether there is good or bad in the heart ?

Which God would already know, without searching the hearts.

 

[syo]

If you study, you would find, that God searches the hearts to see whether there is good or bad.
Now if God knows all things, Then why would God need to search the heart, to see whether there is good or bad in the heart ?

Which God would already know, without searching the hearts.

perhaps ''searching the heart'' is simply evaluation.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Foreknowledge is Biblical. There are several verses that attest. Post #9, for example gives several.

Why not take a few verses, from Post # 9, and explain briefly for each, why they are not describing foreknowledge?

Well since God Drew up a plan in heaven how to defeat Satan, then that means that God would have foreknowledge how he plans to defeat Satan, wouldn't God.

It's like any General of an Army, they will draw up a plan first, As to how they are going to defeat their enemy.
So that means the General has foreknowledge of how he is going to defeat his enemies.

Therefore God has foreknowledge how his plan will work in defeating Satan.
God had already work his plan out in heaven how his son Christ Jesus would come and give his life.
So God already had foreknowledge how his plan would workout in sending Christ Jesus.

 

[Faithofchristian]

perhaps ''searching the heart'' is simply evaluation.

You are so bound and determined, to defeat what is so plain to see

Why would God need to search the heart for simple evaluation, if God already knows all things and including the heart ?

There would be no need to evaluation something that you would already know what is in the heart.

 

[syo]

You are so bound and determined, to defeat what is so plain to see

Why would God need to search the heart for simple evaluation, if God already knows all things and including the heart ?

it is described as such because of humans. he ''waits'' for people to act first. our decisions and actions must take place first.

 

[Faithofchristian]

it is described as such because of humans. he ''waits'' for people to act first. our decisions and actions must take place first.

That's right, So if God waited for people to act first, our decisions and actions must take place first.
Then that means God does not know beforehand what is to happen, until people acts first, in their decisions and actions first.

Well you just proved my point.

 

[syo]

that means God does not know beforehand what is to happen

WE don't know beforehand what is to happen. it's people who want evidence.

 

[Faithofchristian]

WE don't know beforehand what is to happen. it's people who want evidence.

Whatever do you mean, we don't know beforehand what is to happen. Well that's why people have the bible, to let them know what is to happen beforehand, that's quite obvious.

You keep going and only defeating yourself

 

[syo]

Well that's why people have the bible, to let them know what is to happen beforehand, that's quite obvious.

you die, and you meet God, and he tells you, you are evil. you ask ''what did I DO?'' . and God will respond ''nothing. I just foresaw that you might do evil''. that's not how it works. you gotta ACT first. when God asks you ''what did you do'' you will know the answer.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Yeah, and I try to keep it to one or two paragraphs, but thentthere some who can't understand one paragraph, so it may take more than one.

"I regret that I did not have time to write a shorter letter." -Abe Lincoln

 

[Faithofchristian]

you die, and you meet God, and he tells you, you are evil. you ask ''what did I DO?'' . and God will respond ''nothing. I just foresaw that you might do evil''. that's not how it works. you gotta ACT first. when God asks you ''what did you do'' you will know the answer.

That's right, you act first, then God knows,

 

[syo]

That's right, you act first, then God knows,

you act first, then YOU know.

 

[Faithofchristian]

"I regret that I did not have time to write a shorter letter." -Abe Lincoln

Some times it's not possible to write a short letter, some times it takes alot longer letter to get across what a person has to say.
So it all depends on the situation of how a letter will be written. Whether it will take a short letter or a longer letter.
To what a person has to say to get their message across.

 

[Faithofchristian]

you act first, then YOU know.

You mean you don't know what your going to do, unless you act first.
I never heard of that one before.

When I get up in the morning, I know exactly what I am going to do, Go to work.
So I don't have to Waite to act first.

 

[syo]

You mean you don't know what your going to do, unless you act first.
I never heard of that one before.

When I get up in the morning, I know exactly what I am going to do, Go to work.
So I don't have to Waite to act first.

did you know that i would respond to your thread? no. you just guessed it.

you don't know how you will interact with others. you just guess.

 

[Faithofchristian]

you act first, then YOU know.

So your saying, that a person doesn't know they are driving a car. Unless they act first.

But if I know how to drive a car, what would be the use of acting first, since I already know how to drive a car

If I do something wrong, then I already knew it was wrong, therefore I wouldn't need to act first, seeing I already knew it was wrong.