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christian lifestyle

socharlie

Active Member
I think that coming is a bad translation. Strong's Greek: 2064. ἔρχομαι (erchomai) -- to come, go John 14:30

accompany, appear, bring, come, enter, fall out, go, grow

Middle voice of a primary verb (used only in the present and imperfect tenses, the others being supplied by a kindred (middle voice) eleuthomai el-yoo'-thom-ahee, or (active) eltho el'-tho, which do not otherwise occur) to come or go (in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively) -- accompany, appear, bring, come, enter, fall out, go, grow, X light, X next, pass, resort, be set.

People set themselves up to obey the spirit of the World's air. But not so Jesus and anyone who is with him.

I think that is what it means.

In my opinion.
it is Gnostic Gospel, Prince of this World is Demiurge. I like "grow" - Demiurge will grow - it means ignorance of the Father grows.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
the us constitution sees people as dollars. the christians in america have pockets full of money, while there are homeless and starving people.

So then the question indeed is why don't Christians do something? Everyone who claims to be Christian should do at least one of these things. I know so many, even in my own family and acquaintances who pay lip service and say "tsk tsk such a shame" and do nothing. Or they blame the homeless and hungry for their own plight, for example. It's one of the most un-Christian things one can think of.

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ Matthew 25:40-45
 

rocala

Well-Known Member
there is one society. global capitalism.
No it is not society, a threat to it in my opinion, but not to be confused with it.
By the way, the homeless and starving predate global capitalism by a long time. The problem is a lot deeper than this.
Your points would carry a lot more weight if you were to stop using wild generalizations and provide some data, or even quotes.
 

Octogan

Member
I think if anyone actually did live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, the opposite would be true. A true Christian does not make enemies by trying to ram their beliefs down other's throats, trying to deny the rights of those who don't think like them, casting accusations of sin to others outside their group, and so forth. A true Christian would be accepting of others, not judgmental, helpful, compassionate, loving, supportive, kind, and so forth. These are things most people do not reject.

So be a humanist doormat
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
today's society doesn't allow people to have a christian lifestyle. today's society divides people and makes people lonely. society is ruled by the antichrist and, if someone chooses to live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, society will reject them.
The work week is designed to avoid the Christian day of worship.

Every Christian holiday is a government-imposed statutory holiday.

Company uniforms are generally compatible with Christian dress standards.

Jobs that are compatible the tenets of Christianity are commonplace.

Every restaurant and every supermarket has a wide variety of food that's compatible with Christian dietary rules.

Your churches pay no tax.

Many Christian ministers are revered public figures.

What more could you possibly want?
 

Octogan

Member
So then the question indeed is why don't Christians do something? Everyone who claims to be Christian should do at least one of these things. I know so many, even in my own family and acquaintances who pay lip service and say "tsk tsk such a shame" and do nothing. Or they blame the homeless and hungry for their own plight, for example. It's one of the most un-Christian things one can think of.

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ Matthew 25:40-45

Because they have their own things to deal with. It's call living. What do you want them to do? Quit their jobs and volunteer 100% of the time?
 

Octogan

Member
The work week is designed to avoid the Christian day of worship.

Every Christian holiday is a government-imposed statutory holiday.

Company uniforms are generally compatible with Christian dress standards.

Jobs that are compatible the tenets of Christianity are commonplace.

Every restaurant and every supermarket has a wide variety of food that's compatible with Christian dietary rules.

Your churches pay no tax.

Many Christian ministers are revered public figures.

What more could you possibly want?

There's no such things as dietary rules. In the NEw Testament, God says we can eat whatever
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
There's no such things as dietary rules. In the NEw Testament, God says we can eat whatever

Really? I doubt if you can support that claim. Certain followers of Jesus argued that the dietary laws should not be enforced on gentiles. That is a far cry from God telling us that those laws are no longer in use. And Jesus disagreed with that claim at any rate. When you support your claim I will support mine.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The work week is designed to avoid the Christian day of worship.

Every Christian holiday is a government-imposed statutory holiday.

Company uniforms are generally compatible with Christian dress standards.

Jobs that are compatible the tenets of Christianity are commonplace.

Every restaurant and every supermarket has a wide variety of food that's compatible with Christian dietary rules.

Your churches pay no tax.

Many Christian ministers are revered public figures.

What more could you possibly want?

Perhaps the imposition of their "moral" rules on people that are not members of their cult. It is rather amazing that some Christians will complain when their ability to harm others is limited.
 

Octogan

Member
Really? I doubt if you can support that claim. Certain followers of Jesus argued that the dietary laws should not be enforced on gentiles. That is a far cry from God telling us that those laws are no longer in use. And Jesus disagreed with that claim at any rate. When you support your claim I will support mine.

Mark7:15-19, Mathew 15:17-20, and 1 Timothy 4:1-5
 

Foxic

Member
today's society doesn't allow people to have a christian lifestyle. today's society divides people and makes people lonely. society is ruled by the antichrist and, if someone chooses to live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, society will reject them.

Well, it was the Christians who voted for him.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
The work week is designed to avoid the Christian day of worship.

Every Christian holiday is a government-imposed statutory holiday.

Company uniforms are generally compatible with Christian dress standards.

Jobs that are compatible the tenets of Christianity are commonplace.

Every restaurant and every supermarket has a wide variety of food that's compatible with Christian dietary rules.

Your churches pay no tax.

Many Christian ministers are revered public figures.

What more could you possibly want?
these are nothing in the eyes of god. where is the love??? why the homeless and starving???
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
30“I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me;
Thou didst ask as to chapter 14, verse 30 of the Gospel of John, where the Lord Christ saith, 'Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the Prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me.' The Prince of this world is the Blessed Beauty; and 'hath nothing in Me' signifieth: after Me all will draw grace from Me, but He is independent of Me, and will draw no grace from Me. That is, He is rich beyond any grace of Mine.
(Abdu'l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu'l-Baha, p. 170)
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Because they have their own things to deal with. It's call living. What do you want them to do? Quit their jobs and volunteer 100% of the time?

I didn't say 100%, that's a little melodramatic don't you think. Y'know, Jesus did also tell the rich young man to go sell all he had and give to the poor. But it hurts, dun't it?

21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions. Matthew 19:21-22

That aside, what's the great hardship in buying a supermarket gift card and giving it to a homeless or elderly person? Or to a women's and children's shelter? Or to a veterans' organization? Or even paying for someone's groceries? Or a meal? How about buying some blankets for those organizations? Take my word for it, this does not hurt and is perfectly doable. There are plenty of things Christians can do that won't interfere with them "living", God forbid. :rolleyes:
 
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