Question for Trump fans.

[fantome profane]

And you know who you are.

Here is my question.

If Trump did it, if he colluded with the Russians to interfere with the election, do you want him to get away with it?

Simple question. For the purpose of this question assume he is guilty. Do you want justice? Even if that justice makes liberals happy? Or is the image of a happy liberal saying “I told you so” so egregious that you would want Trump to get away with it?

 

[Father Heathen]

I recommend an anonymous poll, because those who would prefer a cover up over justice might not openly admit it.

 

[Buddha Dharma]

I recommend an anonymous poll, because those who would prefer a cover up over justice might not openly admit it.

I was wondering if I'm the only one that noticed some right-wingers like being very covert with their agenda. Odd to be so ashamed isn't it, while thinking they're right all the time?

 

[fantome profane]

I recommend an anonymous poll, because those who would prefer a cover up over justice might not openly admit it.

Is “Father Heathen” your real name?

 

[Akivah]

And you know who you are.

Here is my question.

If Trump did it, if he colluded with the Russians to interfere with the election, do you want him to get away with it?

Simple question. For the purpose of this question assume he is guilty. Do you want justice? Even if that justice makes liberals happy? Or is the image of a happy liberal saying “I told you so” so egregious that you would want Trump to get away with it?

If Trump did any prosecutable crime, then he should be prosecuted for it. So far, all he's done is win an election that the Dems thought they should have won and been an obnoxious person. Neither of those is criminal.

 

[Father Heathen]

Is “Father Heathen” your real name?

Even psuedonyms have reputations attached to them.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And you know who you are.

Here is my question.

If Trump did it, if he colluded with the Russians to interfere with the election, do you want him to get away with it?

Simple question. For the purpose of this question assume he is guilty. Do you want justice? Even if that justice makes liberals happy? Or is the image of a happy liberal saying “I told you so” so egregious that you would want Trump to get away with it?

Honestly I can't think of anybody at all, no matter where they come from, or what party they are affiliated with gets positions of political power by being a good guy.

That said, if it was made clear enough for it to be a genuine serious threat to our country's safety and security and demonstrable through the ramifications as a result, then yes I would call for justice to be done.

 

[fantome profane]

Even psuedonyms have reputations attached to them.

Yes, but I want to hear from some of the RF pseudonyms. If they are too afraid to risk their pseudo-reputations to answer a simple hypothetical, then the hell with them.

I don’t intend to dox anybody

 

[fantome profane]

If it was made clear enough for it to be a genuine serious threat to our country's safety and security and demonstrable through the ramifications as a result, then yes I would call for justice to be done.

This is just the kind of evasion I was trying to avoid, but I knew someone would say something like this.

The question I posed is if it happened do you want it “made clear enough”? Or do you want it to be unclear enough that Trump gets away with it?

 

[Father Heathen]

Honestly I can't think of anybody at all, no matter where they come from, or what party they are affiliated with gets positions of political power by being a good guy.

That said, if it was made clear enough for it to be a genuine serious threat to our country's safety and security and demonstrable through the ramifications as a result, then yes I would call for justice to be done.

So in other words, breaking rules is only bad when it's the opposing party, otherwise you don't mind looking the other way?

 

[Lyndon]

Trump supporters have already demonstrated that they don't care about facts and the truth, what makes you think anything will change their mind??

 

[Twilight Hue]

So in other words, breaking rules is only bad when it's the opposing party, otherwise you don't mind looking the other way?

Let's put it this way. It's an oft mentioned quote, "There are rule's, and then there are RULES".

 

[idav]

If Trump did any prosecutable crime, then he should be prosecuted for it. So far, all he's done is win an election that the Dems thought they should have won and been an obnoxious person. Neither of those is criminal.

Do you know for fact nothing is prosecutable or just assuming? Plenty of indictments and guilty pleas so far. Do you feel it’s worth pursuing anything, or that if it were the civilian world, nothing even worth a warrant? This is to anyone.

 

[idav]

And you know who you are.

Here is my question.

If Trump did it, if he colluded with the Russians to interfere with the election, do you want him to get away with it?

Simple question. For the purpose of this question assume he is guilty. Do you want justice? Even if that justice makes liberals happy? Or is the image of a happy liberal saying “I told you so” so egregious that you would want Trump to get away with it?

I’m an independent and a fan of due process. I feel if there is reason for investigating someone it should be done to the fullest extent of the law. Just Trumps remarks alone asking someone to hack his opponent is reason enough for an FBI investigation, people get investigated for less. Department of Homeland security worries about people being the wrong religion which I feel is a little much.

 

[robocop (actually)]

And you know who you are.

Here is my question.

If Trump did it, if he colluded with the Russians to interfere with the election, do you want him to get away with it?

Simple question. For the purpose of this question assume he is guilty. Do you want justice? Even if that justice makes liberals happy? Or is the image of a happy liberal saying “I told you so” so egregious that you would want Trump to get away with it?

I think Trump did not get elected legitimately, but then I think he's the best president we've had in a long time. It seems the trial is over now, so I get to duck your question then don't I?

 

[Father Heathen]

Let's put it this way. It's an oft mentioned quote, "There are rule's, and then there are RULES".

Be a big boy and stop beating around the bush.

 

[Mister Emu]

If Trump did it, if he colluded with the Russians to interfere with the election, do you want him to get away with it?

Simple question. For the purpose of this question assume he is guilty.

Guilty of what exactly, interference is pretty vague. Meeting a foreign agent to talk about information? Actively working with a foreign state to hack into a secure system? Utilizing a foreign former intelligence officer to purchase state propaganda from a hostile nation and introducing it into our justice and national security institutions?

 

[idav]

Guilty of what exactly, interference is pretty vague. Meeting a foreign agent to talk about information? Actively working with a foreign state to hack into a secure system? Utilizing a foreign former intelligence officer to purchase state propaganda from a hostile nation and introducing it into our justice and national security institutions?

Good questions. Whatever is good enough for a warrant.

 

[Falvlun]

Good questions. Whatever is good enough for a warrant.

Reading between the lines here, I suspect @Mister Emu is referring to the Steele Dossier.

 

[Mindmaster]

And you know who you are.

Here is my question.

If Trump did it, if he colluded with the Russians to interfere with the election, do you want him to get away with it?

Simple question. For the purpose of this question assume he is guilty. Do you want justice? Even if that justice makes liberals happy? Or is the image of a happy liberal saying “I told you so” so egregious that you would want Trump to get away with it?

1) No. If that action occurred before he was President-Elect, it still wouldn't be illegal. Russia is not an enemy of the state, or some such imaginary villain. Technically, they're neither ally nor enemy. He's free to talk to them, basically.

2) I will not presume anyone is guilty to entertain anyone else's fantasy.

3) No, it's irrelevant what liberals think to me nor does it mean they are right on anything else or gain any credibility. If you throw spaghetti at the wall long enough, some of it may stick, but it's nearly random, lol. That's a far cry from being right about anything. It's just luck in their favor. The culture destroying ideology of liberalism in the modern day is not worth entertaining even in the minor issues that I may sort-of-kind-of sympathize with. Anything Trump would do would not outweigh the damage, IMHO. Case #1 is a nearly unable to be prosecuted unless Trump lied to someone directly under oath, and then it'd be perjury or obstruction at best. Neither of those would be sufficient to unseat a President unless you could prove he was acting as an enemy of the state. That's a stretch to say the least.