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With god all things are possible, right?
The PR IS the salvation for a christian not a symbol of it.
I cant change scripture and how the majority of christians see it. That is
Their faith
Not mine nor yours
You are not a teacher marking christian students wrong. Thats silly and rude. In this case, you are siding with your own view defining other peoples religions.
Its not up to you to point out what you call misinerpretation of another persons faith as a fact-it is your opinion, your belief.
If those symbols are based on real events.
Did bahaullah actually rose as a spirit or was it a symbol of a non existant event or story?
How does 2000 some odd years make us automatically unable to write spiritual facts?
False teachers? That is very bias and negative.
Unless you follow christ ONLY then you are an unrepented gentile just as I am. They call us pagans. How can pagans speak for tbe word of god, say you follow christian views, call their views symbolic, and follow manifestations that are no where related to christian beliefs?
I dont take sides. Thats why Im not i abrahamic religions. It makes me think onesided. Its unhealthy for my mind and heart, literally.
All scripture has a physical element to it. Cultural religions dont seperate the two. Universalist, new age and newer non denominations do. I dont care for universalism. Both sides think they are right.
When christians talk about the PR they are talking about their literal salvation and literal reserection when christ returns in flesh and spirit.
My interpretation involves The Church, physical sacraments, physical Eucharist, literal transubstatiation, and literal reserection in one Body of Christ.
Bahai does not share my views. If you did, you would not be basing your facts on scripture but the body of Christ both scripture And tradition.
You say the PR is not real literally. So you base your symbol on what is not taught in scripture. Its bahai view.
Its about the Body of Christ. Christ even says people look to scripture (hebrew) as if IT has eternal life. Even scripture speaks of christ. You are referring to the wrong recourse.
You seem to think symbolic means unreal.
Whereas symbolic does not mean unreal or myth.
Symbolic just means, spiritual truth described with symbolic terms. If you say, his face is as bright as moon. This is symbolic, and real, but it does not mean, his face literally (or physically) is bright.
The PR IS the salvation for a christian not a symbol of it.
I cant change scripture and how the majority of christians see it. That is
Their faith
Not mine nor yours
Remember, when you went to school, you took classes and then you wrote a test. Then your teacher marked your test. He told you which one of your answers were correct and which ones are incorrect. Are you saying that, when he found fault with your answers or understanding of the lessons, he was biased?!
That is how Holy Books are. People can misunderstand the lessons in the holy Books. The story of Resurrection of Jesus is meant to be a true lesson. The story teaches spirituality. But if some people do not see its intended purpose and lesson, and takes the symbols, as physically true, should not an all-knowing God tells them of their faulty understanding of God's book?!
You are not a teacher marking christian students wrong. Thats silly and rude. In this case, you are siding with your own view defining other peoples religions.
Its not up to you to point out what you call misinerpretation of another persons faith as a fact-it is your opinion, your belief.
spirituality can be expressed using symbolic expressions and stories, can it not?
If those symbols are based on real events.
Did bahaullah actually rose as a spirit or was it a symbol of a non existant event or story?
The Christians who live in our time or even past did not write the Bible. The Bible was written by the apostles of Jesus, not by all other Christians, so, how can you say the book belongs to anyone who is called Christians? Jesus and the apostles many times warned against false Christian teachers, and even those who call Jesus Lord, Lord!
How does 2000 some odd years make us automatically unable to write spiritual facts?
False teachers? That is very bias and negative.
Unless you follow christ ONLY then you are an unrepented gentile just as I am. They call us pagans. How can pagans speak for tbe word of god, say you follow christian views, call their views symbolic, and follow manifestations that are no where related to christian beliefs?
I dont take sides. Thats why Im not i abrahamic religions. It makes me think onesided. Its unhealthy for my mind and heart, literally.
I am saying if the heart is not pure and clean, it cannot understand. That is what the Bible said:
"Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understan
This verse of Bible tells us, to become wise, we need to become pure and spotless; our heart needs to be cleaned.
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
"My son, if your heart is wise, then my heart will be glad indeed; ...."
"The hearts of the wise make their mouths prudent, and their lips promote instruction"
All scripture has a physical element to it. Cultural religions dont seperate the two. Universalist, new age and newer non denominations do. I dont care for universalism. Both sides think they are right.
When Christians talk about physical resurrection of Jesus, they mean, Jesus body became alive again physically after the death. What you describe is not an evidence for the physical resurrection. But your interpretation is closer to what Bahais also believe.
You seem to think symbolic means unreal.
Whereas symbolic does not mean unreal or myth.
Symbolic just means, spiritual truth described with symbolic terms. If you say, his face is as bright as moon. This is symbolic, and real, but it does not mean, his face literally (or physically) is bright.
When christians talk about the PR they are talking about their literal salvation and literal reserection when christ returns in flesh and spirit.
My interpretation involves The Church, physical sacraments, physical Eucharist, literal transubstatiation, and literal reserection in one Body of Christ.
Bahai does not share my views. If you did, you would not be basing your facts on scripture but the body of Christ both scripture And tradition.
You say the PR is not real literally. So you base your symbol on what is not taught in scripture. Its bahai view.
Its about the Body of Christ. Christ even says people look to scripture (hebrew) as if IT has eternal life. Even scripture speaks of christ. You are referring to the wrong recourse.