How do you interpret the verses where the alleged resurrected Jesus said he is flesh and bone and not a ghost?
Which verse exactly are you referring to?
Christ was born of the Holy Spirit as Mary had no husband and was a Virgin.
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How do you interpret the verses where the alleged resurrected Jesus said he is flesh and bone and not a ghost?
How were the Christians able to hide the body? And where does it say the gospels are sealed? And, is the story of the crucifixion told in the gospels historically accurate?
Go back and read the first post where I mentioned the word "confusion". I think you're a llittle mixed up.
How do you interpret the verses where the alleged resurrected Jesus said he is flesh and bone and not a ghost?
I’m happy to be criticised as it helps me see my wrongs and helps me correct them and be a better person hopefully. So I welcome people pointing out my flaws, mistakes and imperfections because my ego often is blind to them.
It wasn’t a judgement or said in a condescending tone, it was in reply to him saying the resurrection was confusing. If it came across that way I need to improve my communication skills. Thanks for pointing that out.
I find Buddhism is a very accessible religion. I explored Buddhism during my years of search, lived with Buddhists, attended the Tibetan Buddhist centre numerous times in my hometown and used to live in their premises prior to the Buddhists purchasing it. I have read Buddhist literature and am connected to a Buddhist country (Japan) through my wife's family and of course our children have Japanese ancestry. One of my best friends is Buddhist. I have visited many Buddhist temples in Japan so I feel a connection to Buddhism.
We don't need to talk about much Islam and Judaism. We both have a common connection to Christianity. Some of the dualistic language of Christianity came from Zoroastrianism that resulted from the period the Jews were in exile after the Babylonians. Paganism and indigenous religions are another part of the story. In a sense Hinduism is very much an indigenous religion of the peoples of the Indian subcontinent. Buddhists teachings appear to be much more universal and the Buddha encouraged His disciples to spread His message, much like Christ encouraged the Teaching of the Gospels. All these faiths speak to the human condition and how to attain a higher plane of being. The Jews not so much as they were homeless desert wanders for forty years until they conquered the land of Canaan.
We all need to breath. Breathing involves expiring and inhaling in the right proportions. We do it unconsciously. We need to practice our faith just as we need to study it. They are not mutually exclusive but reinforce each other. The four noble truths are the map, and the noble eightfold path are the directions from travelling from one territory to the other.
Sacredness is in the eye of beholder. Live in Japan and see how most households have shrines set up with depictions of the Buddha that they worship and revere.
Your experience of Buddhist will be entirely different from that of the average Japanese citizen whose ancestors have practiced the religion over 1500 years.
Yes. We are pretty much agreed. No need for semantics or splitting hairs.
So if the Buddha didn't create the Dharma, who did and who enabled the Buddha to realise it? The answer for me is God. The Buddha came into being at conception, just as Jesus did. However the plan to have a Jesus or Buddha has always been there as there has always been the Dharma IMHO.
The Buddha's enlightenment teaches us that ultimate wisdom and deliverance from suffering is a real potential inherent in human beings, one we can realize for ourselves without the aid or grace of an external savior. His enlightenment also highlights the ideal of sensible moderation, "the middle way," which has characterized Buddhism throughout its long history. The quest for truth may be a difficult undertaking, one which makes harsh demands on us, but it does not ask us to subject ourselves to penance and self-punishment. Final victory is to be won, not by tormenting the body, but by developing the mind, and this takes place through a course of training that balances care for the body with the cultivation of our higher spiritual faculties. ~The Buddha and his Dharma (Commentary)
Nirvana isn't a place anymore than heaven is a place. I would argue that it is a state of being that exists in both this world and in the next to varying degrees.
Our relationship to the Buddha or the Christ is different from a medical doctor. People used to revere doctors. Mercifully they don't anymore but our attitude to our spiritual Teacher should be very much part of our practice. If we don't at least respect and trust our teacher do we have any foundation? Part of getting well is respecting and trusting the advice you are given and following it.
When you talk about the Buddha just being a messenger, that sounds very much like Muhammad.
You still missed the point. If the Baha'is are right, Christians have been confused and wrong about God for 2000 years. But what are they confused about? The interpretation of their own Scriptures. It took the Baha'is to set them straight... The resurrection isn't literal. It's symbolic.
How were the Christians able to hide the body? And where does it say the gospels are sealed? And, is the story of the crucifixion told in the gospels historically accurate?
I'm confused how all this confusion got started?
I'm confused why no Christians show up here to stand up for their belief that Jesus rose physically from the dead.
@adrian009
To tell you honestly, all of the evangalist Buddhist sects like BDK (from their website), Kadampa (Im realizing), Nichiren Shoshu and SGI, the univeralism has a western and/political influence.
@adrian009
To tell you honestly, all of the evangalist Buddhist sects like BDK (from their website), Kadampa (Im realizing), Nichiren Shoshu and SGI, the univeralism has a western and/political influence. Id suggest studying Theravada Buddhism first especially the suttas and not the sutras to get a feel of the basics in which the Mahayana sutras such as Pure Land has came from somewhat. I think Buddhism went to Shri Lanka first, China, and Japan way later. Japanese Buddhism got mixed with Shintoism, the religion before Buddhism came over.
I actually dont have much of the sutras. A lot of them are commentaries and others are written by recent monks revered today in Vietnamese and Zen Buddhism. I think Tibetan, Im not sure. Kadampa has guru reverences. Things like that.
Of course whatever sutras you use is your personal preference but like ones I use outside the Pali, its relevent mostly to the tradition you use not for buddhism as a whole. The Teachings of The Buddha, so far I read, js a good synapsis of The Buddha's teachings. The choice of words is different than Pali, so that kinda throws me off.
List of popular sutras. Mahayana traditions.
You have more knowledge of the cultural part than I do; and, they are intermingled with the belief and practice.
Here are some pictures. They were too big so I had to attach them.
This is me above, and two other people on either side cut out, where I took my precepts. I took them at a Zen Vietnamese mini temple near me. The Uposatha ceremony was on private property and only open to the public on holidays celebrations. I don't speak a word of Vietnamese so it's hard to learn the tradition. There are actually no books in worship. There are classes for children on how to speak Vietnamese. If it weren't so expensive by cab/taxi, I'd go there and sit with the children.
I cropped it below. The Gohonzon (in the Butsudon like the one you showed me) is from Nichiren Buddhism sect in Japan. I don't know if you heard of it. There is a schism between the different Nichiren Buddhist traditions if you looked it up online. This below is the Lotus Sutra depicted as the Ceremony in the Air where all the gods, devas, and humans (among others) came to hear the Lotus in which The Buddha taught. The Lotus Sutra is a compilation of all the Buddhist teachings in one book.
I went to a Tibetan temple Kadampa tradition. We received buddha Vajrasattva blessings there. In the middle is the teacher of the tradition. To the side bodhisattvas, I believe.
I'm more of a study person. I've never seen study in any worship ceremony in any of the temples I've been to. Usually they are in classes. The Thai temple I'd like to visit and the other one, I cant remember what language they speak, they speak broken English so I most definitely will visit there. Both have classes but the former they don't have translators like the latter.
I commend you in seeing god in Buddhist traditions. Personally, that is like going to a Hindu temple, seeing all the gods and goddesses statues, and saying, because they believe in god and you may have gone for years, you connect with the same god they do. While culture is a good plus, of course, understanding the belief is better, practice of it is the best teacher.
I didn't know there were evangelistic Buddhists. Seems kind of off. The Buddhist monks I've met here and there seem so incredibly mellow. The one out at the retreat center near hear, just smiled with us, and said, "Come back any time." My friend did have another connection to the place though as he had done some finishing work on the very large standing Buddha there. They may have remembered each other.
Its not Buddhism and Buddhist as a whole. Its the first time I experienced such a thing in Buddhism. I left because of it.
There is a similarity between seeing Jesus body and eating dinner with Him, and the event of Transfiguration on the Mountain, and seeing Moses and Elijah speaking with Jesus.I'm confused why no Christians show up here to stand up for their belief that Jesus rose physically from the dead.
What does that have to do with the gospels? They are written to inform people about the things Jesus said and did? So any other events written in the gospels only symbolic and never really happened? Or, is the rest of the stories, other than the resurrection, accurate and historical?Daniel 12:9
And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Rev 5.1-5
1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
It’s clear from r above no man in heaven or earth includes the pope and all Christians on earth. The the interpretations of the prophecies can only be unsealed by the Messiah Himself when He comes according to the Bible.