So, for starters, people like me because I speak ultimate truths that aren't sugar coated. I'll give you an example, you crawled out of a ***** and you don't have any clue where you are. Nobody does. It's the greatest mystery that nobody likes to talk about. We like to pretend that we know everything, and we like to give things names because if we name something we can claim that we know what it is, but the reality is that we don't know anything. The reality is that we are very good at pretending things just like we did when we were kids. In fact I plan to make a point that there is two realities. The natural world aka the real world, and the pretend society that we create to hide from the gruesome natural world we all fear.
Before I get off topic, Science vs Religion. Who wins? That's easy...
Answer= Nobody, we all lose, because they are the same thing.
Crowd gasps, "What did he just say?"
Yes you heard me, they are the same. Religion by definition is a belief held with faith.
While that definition petty well mirrors what scripture tells us, it is not the worldwide definition of "Religion."
Religion is a movement based upon the unknown, often driving one to do things they would never consider otherwise, but superstition is as strong a reason for religion as Faith is to a Christian or a Jew.
The same way science makes claims, uh, I mean theories, many that can't be proven, but must be believed with faith. To put it more plainly science is merely the new age religion. In the past it was scientific fact that the earth was flat and if you said otherwise you could be executed. Well in a few hundred years from now all the scientific things we believe today will be disproven.
Assumes things not in evidence. I doubt the theory of gravity will be among the "disproven" things of science, not the theories of light, waves, string, photons, and such stuff.
Not to say that some clever inventions haven't arisen from science like this laptop I'm typing on, but science can't be used to explain existence similar to how a holographic man could never understand what's outside the hologram.
That's a simple one. A "Holographic man" is an invention whereby an image of a man is projected upon a non-surface, making it appear as though he is among others who are now aware of the Holographic effect of the one under consideration.
A "Holographic image" may be programmed to receive impulses like sight, sound, even detecting meaning from facial it is still an expression, but it is still an image projected, and has no ability to understand.
I could get into deep heated argumentation over this no doubt,
It is already too deep for consideration, for you to suggest an Holographic projection can understand. I would stop while I am ahead, if I were you, at least on that issue.
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but I believe I can easily destroy anybody's scientific arguments with the following sentence.
Life itself is a paradox. Therefore all attempts at explaining life using science aka observing the universe is futile. Don't believe that life is a paradox? Here I'll show you it's easy:
There is only two possible options for life:
1. Life, and all matter, and energy, sprang into existence from nothing.
(We know that is impossible because something can not come from nothing everything must have a beginning.)
2. Life has always existed and has had no beginning.
(We know that is impossible because everything must have a beginning.)
Both of those options defy all logic yet there is no other alternatives.
There you have it indisputable proof that life itself is the greatest mystery and an unsolvable paradox. Something that all kids know. I don't think I'm smart for telling you this, in fact, I'm aware that you already knew this, but doesn't it feel refreshing to hear somebody say it?
You have a problem. Your "paradox" is no more valuable than a "pair of sox" as far as explaining the origin of anything at all.
Consider:
A:1. Energy always existed.
2. Matter always existed.
3. Energy acted upon Matter and cause what is.
B: God always existed and brought forth that which is.
The question then becomes, which is easier to deal with? A pre-existing triple assumption, based upon nothing other than three speculations?
Or one assumption of a pre-existing creator who not only made it all, but communicated to Men, that fact, and set out to demonstrate the truth of it all?
I for one, choose to believe Someone who says He created all things, then demonstrated the truths of His words by telling us to "prove all things," which seems fair, and then tells us of a king who at some time two-hundred years into the future, will send Israel back from captivity to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem and the Temple walls; this while Israel was at peace and were not in captivity, and the walls were still standing, and had not been torn down.
Then this one identifying Himself as "God" told us the name of this king, so that when the king reads the Hebrew scriptures some two-hundred years into the future, and sees His name and what is prophesied about himself, begins to do exactly according to the prophecy.
Now, THAT's not an event easily copied by Charlatans and false prophets.
And THAT is the basis of my acceptance of God, until someone of equal credentials, displays an equal ability to defend messages to the contrary.
The truth is that were scared of the natural world. Its terrifying. Imagine being in the woods alone at night with something stalking you trying to eat you. Sounds like a nightmare right? No, its real. It could happen. We live in a predatory parasitic world where to survive living sentient beings must be slaughtered and their flesh consumed for energy transference its quite sick and disturbing if you actually stop to think about it.
So, which Cow approached you and said TO YOU "I think, therefore I am?" THAT is a demonstration of sentience. And I am aware of no other sentient beings other than MAN upon the earth.
Parasites and Predators are not logically thinking, and capable of communicating to Men, much beyond an appetite and the ability to provide for it's satisfaction through brute force and quick reflexes.
Its no wonder we would literally do anything to distract our self from this thus we have created modern society which is mostly a huge distraction, and its no wonder the ancients used to worship the sun, their risen savior who brought light to the world and let them see the predators trying to eat them.
"Ancient?" Japan was a sun-worshipping nation until their defeat ending World War II. Their Emperor was alleged to be in a direct line of Emperors born of the Sun.
Religion your not getting off the hook so easy either. For starters all the religions contain ancient texts that predate the books they are presented in today. All these ancient texts were written by ancient man, but they are not divine, and they have been manipulated by your rulers with some things left out and some things added.
Have you ever heard of a Secretary? That is someone who writes the words of another, for communication to others.
God is the author, Men, both scribes and prophets, were the early form of secretaries, who wrote precisely what God told them to write.
You are partially correct in your assessment of what some Men have tried to do in the centuries since its origin, but God has preserved the original, hidden among the efforts of Men to remove it.
The ancients were people doing what people do best, pretending and making things up to distract themselves from reality just the same as we are still doing today. In fact its better to argue about which is better, science or religion, then to think about the fact that your going to die and your entire existence may have been pointless.
Well, I suppose if you began with "three assumptions" you would have three times more reason to "Assume" the correctness of your position, but I, with only one assumption followed by verification and demonstration, choose to follow a faith based upon reason, and integrity to details of things projected far into a future foretold by a loving God who explains it all, if you take the time to seek, and find, rather than waste away attempting to disprove three assumptions.
The ultimate truth here is that nobody knows a damn thing about where we are, why were here, or how the universe and life started. It's all conjecture and opinion so lets stop pretending, arguing, and fighting over whos made up b.s. is better. My god is better than your god because my god has a giant cock!
But My God is the one who created your giant rooster, and then gave Him a Hen by which to reproduce after his own kind. I still choose My God over yours god.
Maybe the ancients were smarter then we give them credit for because they told us that to find real truths you must look deep within yourself, because that's where the true universe exists. You are infinite consciousness. You are a paradox, and you have the power!
And I have the breath of God giving me life.
Just a simple reminder from your friend, Focused Intent.
How sad!