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How are these Great Beings explained?

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
It is Bahau'llah that gave the message, not the folowers.

To be true to Christ one must Test the Prophets. To say He is Wrong must be scriptural.

Be well and happy

Regards Tony

It is. You just got to read it as is and participate in it. For example, go to a christian church.

Where does it say Bahaullah in scripture as a prophet (apostle even)?
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
This quote involves a couple of Baha'i beliefs. One, the resurrection of Jesus. And two, the promise of the Holy Spirit. Baha'is us a quote to say the Spirit of Truth that was promised is a prophecy about Baha'u'llah. Christians would say, in context, it is the Holy Spirit that descended on Jesus' followers on Pentecost. Here's the quote from the NIV version of Acts 1:1-5.

1 In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach
2 until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen.
3 After his suffering, he presented himself to them and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the kingdom of God.
4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.
5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”

"Convincing proofs" that Jesus was alive? Who is right about this, Luke or Abdu'l Baha? If the Baha'is believe the resurrection was the "body of believers" and not Jesus coming back to life, then how do you explain what Luke is saying?

As we read through the chapter Acts 1 we soon come to the following verses:

9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


If you want to understand it literally, it makes no sense. We have a man rising up into the sky which is likened to heaven.

I doubt if you believe this to be true, and most Christians are too attached to their literal understanding to see it any other way.
 

RoaringSilence

Active Member
Hi @RoaringSilence,

I'm happy to just have a chat regardless of the outcome.

Of course everyone thinks their faith is better than his neighbours. Thats human nature.

We've been talking quite a lot about the diverse beliefs within Hinduism. Do you believe Krishna was a real person, a Deity, or both?
i cannot impose my personal findings or my personal opinion , however Hinduism gives you the liberty to self explore and find the answers within. i ve found a-x (yz) unknown to me. i discount my findings as possible delusion . so instead of presenting myself as a right one is not the right thing to do at this point.
You could choose to self explore / merge it with any of your beliefs and find your own answers , you could even find answers from anyone who claims to know. or if you believe in bahai that path is also valid if it works for you.

there is a saying in vedic - ekam sat vipra bahudha vadanti.

so Hinduism validates all ways as valid. However with that said...we do not believe in repeating past mistakes.. and learning from our history. Which is why if any religion is leading towards totalitarianism , we regard it as a red signal, unless it becomes transparent enough to lets all colors flow, our answer is unity in diversity .

as for what krishna is or shiva is geeta gives choices based on personal capacity.
i know half- truths and i m in no rush to know it all in one lifetime.
god is timeless and soul is timeless. that is the first lesson of Hinduism.
 
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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Hi @RoaringSilence,

Of course everyone thinks their faith is better than his neighbours. Thats human nature.

Sorry but I disagree. If you add 'for me' to the end, then I agree. I actually believe Baha'i' is better for you than Hinduism. That's because I respect YOU as a person, and believe You've made wise decisions based on YOUR needs.

As soon as we start thinking sincerely about the other person, this idea of 'my religion is better than yours' dissipates PDQ.
 

RoaringSilence

Active Member
Sorry but I disagree. If you add 'for me' to the end, then I agree. I actually believe Baha'i' is better for you than Hinduism. That's because I respect YOU as a person, and believe You've made wise decisions based on YOUR needs.

As soon as we start thinking sincerely about the other person, this idea of 'my religion is better than yours' dissipates PDQ.
i second his motion.
bahai works for you. you work for bahai. i will refrain from commenting on bahai if you refrain from teaching us how to view krishna or our godsx330mill and counting..

if you read my comment is mine vs yours ..wrong.
if your read it as ...if you wish to teach bahai - teach bahai don't say we include krishna and we have an opinion about him..just give bahu'lla pbuh's teachings pure. and to learn about krishna door open 24x7 ..which door is correct ..you decide for self and let other decide thier own door/guru/ teacher. thats how we keep peace.

 
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InvestigateTruth

Well-Known Member
Is Buddhism and Jainism related to Hinduism? In what ways are any of them related to Christianity?
I don't know if Buddhism or Hinduism are 'related' to Christianity or not. There are similarities between them. They are not necessarily related to each other.
To me, Jewish Faith and Christianity may be said are related, since Messiah is the Promised One of Jews, and Jesus said, He is that Messiah. Christianity and Islam are related in a sense that Muhammad said, Jesus had spoken of Him as a future Prophet.
Why does it matter if Hinduism and Christianity are related or not?
 

InvestigateTruth

Well-Known Member
Sorry but I disagree. If you add 'for me' to the end, then I agree. I actually believe Baha'i' is better for you than Hinduism. That's because I respect YOU as a person, and believe You've made wise decisions based on YOUR needs.

As soon as we start thinking sincerely about the other person, this idea of 'my religion is better than yours' dissipates PDQ.
I think this idea that religion x is better for you, and religion y is better for me, is not logical at all.
There is only one human in nature. Thus, only one religion is better for humanity. We just need to be fair, and think which religion has better teachings for all humanity. It is like saying, for a person spoiled food is better, for another person fresh food. Or for a person new cloths are better, for another person old and damaged cloth. That is illogical. That is how religion is. It has a expiry date. When its expiry date is passed, it is like a spoiled food, or expired medicine. It would be like an old and damaged cloth. It is always better to use the fresh food, or the new cloths. So, it is best to investigate which religion is the most recent divinely revealed religion, and what are its evidence that is divinely revealed.
 

RoaringSilence

Active Member
I think this idea that religion x is better for you, and religion y is better for me, is not logical at all.
There is only one human in nature. Thus, only one religion is better for humanity. We just need to be fair, and think which religion has better teachings for all humanity. It is like saying, for a person spoiled food is better, for another person fresh food. Or for a person new cloths are better, for another person old and damaged cloth. That is illogical. That is how religion is. It has a expiry date. When its expiry date is passed, it is like a spoiled food, or expired medicine. It would be like an old and damaged cloth. It is always better to use the fresh food, or the new cloths. So, it is best to investigate which religion is the most recent divinely revealed religion, and what are its evidence that is divinely revealed.
yes you are welcome to propagate 1 religion. but can u get in line coz all the other "1" religions are already with us and each "1" of them is "1" religion. you can join the 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 club , and the binary 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 club will take the brunt of your desire till eternity. god does need fuel for hell fire ...selfless 0's will give themselves for your desire.



 
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InvestigateTruth

Well-Known Member
It is. You just got to read it as is and participate in it. For example, go to a christian church.

Where does it say Bahaullah in scripture as a prophet (apostle even)?
It was repeatedly pointed out that, in Bible says Bahaullah comes. In Islamic Prophecies also, it is alluded to name of Bahaullah as the Manifestation of God.
 

InvestigateTruth

Well-Known Member
One of the Baha'is said that Baha'u'llah has come in the station of the "Father". So when Christians use the term "Father" do they mean God or Baha'u'llah, but just don't know it? And, Is Jesus, therefore, Baha'u'llah's son? And, who was the Mother? And, if not God, what is the Holy Spirit?
In Christian Bible, the Father is God, who was to be manifested at the end time, so, the believers see Him, face to face. Then God, the Father, Manifested Himself in the Person of Bahaullah, and the Prophecy is fulfilled. You can see Some Answered Questions, about Holy Spirit.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
What is scary is that they believe God rejects them for their behavior. In some of the past religions God told his followers to kill them. It sounds like the Baha'is will only put them into therapy, so they can be cured.

My understanding is that God only does what's best for us. He is but a loving Father Who really cares. But often we are too emotionally involved to know what's best for us whereas God is All Knowing and in His wisdom often forbids things we can't see the reason for. But it's because He wants what's best for us that's all.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
A
Straight people can practice homosexuality.

Are you talking about homosexuality or a choice to behave in sexual perversion?

Any form of sexual promiscuity is forbidden by Baha'u'llah not just homosexuality. Heterosexuals find the Baha'i laws just as tough for them.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
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Any form of sexual promiscuity is forbidden by Baha'u'llah not just homosexuality. Heterosexuals find the Baha'i laws just as tough for them.

Homosexuality is a sexual orientation. It refers to attraction. You can engage in same-sex acts and still be heterosexual; you are attracted to opposite sex. Intercourse has nothing to do with it.

The bible talks of sexual perversion not orientation.

Which are you referring to? Someone's sexual orientation or someone's behavior. (Gay or straight-doesnt matter)
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Yes, it's curious. The God I know loves unconditionally.

So are you saying that unless God gives us everything we want He is not God? That His knowledge and wisdom dont matter and only what we want matters and if He doesn't comply then He's no God?

Funny idea of God.

I understand that God, like a loving Father would not endorse things He, in His Wisdom, deemed harmful and that we would be humble enough to give Him, God, the All Knowing, the benefit of the doubt.

How can we know better than God Who is the Creater, what is best for us?
 
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