Just Accidental?

[Sapiens]

Where you on the path to sentience you'd not bother with fallacious metaphors.

You may well set the record for the shortest time from arrival to ignore.

 

[savagewind]

You may well set the record for the shortest time from arrival to ignore.

Welcome to The Club @crowfeather .

 

[crowfeather]

Thinkers loathe me. It's understandable. I once was one of them.

 

[savagewind]

Thinkers loathe me. It's understandable. I once was one of them.

I think I am a thinker. I think a lot. I do not loathe you and I trust that I will never loathe you.
I practice loving people. I do not study religion except the religion which is Bible belief.
So, I don't know much about Tao, but the little that came up to define it I believe in that.

 

[savagewind]

Oh, off topic. Sorry @Deeje.

 

[savagewind]

Some people say God designed every species on Earth. I think maybe along with the power of God, Tao did it.

 

[crowfeather]

Aha! Man who go off-topic is man who think lateral.
Such people are not off-topic at all, but forum admins, generally, decide that they are.
To get back on-topic...
Is it accidental that you think a lot? Or more an evolutionary development?
I would suggest that evolution will soon lead you to the end of your thinking, and into the fullest living of your life.
Once the wheel starts turning, its momentum builds up very quickly.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

You can stand back from life and study it, as if it were a thing, or you can merge with it, become it, and live.
Never can you do both.

Why do you think that one can't do them both? They're alternate perspectives. We can and ought do both.

And it's all living, but in different frames of mind - one more focused and analytical, the other more diffuse and emotional

 

[crowfeather]

Why do you think that one can't do them both? They're alternate perspectives. We can and ought do both.
And it's all living, but in different frames of mind - one more focused and analytical, the other more diffuse and emotional

If you're talking about playing-at life, sure you can do anything at all. This acting-out of life is what many do, and it shows.
If, on the other hand, you prefer to fully live, you must discover how to do that, rather than act in a movie about life.
You live life by becoming life. There is no other means.
And this has nothing at all to do with emotions. Nor 'frames of mind'.
As for 'diffuse', I'm not sure what you mean. There's nothing diffuse about my life. There's nothing more real than Reality.
Of course, if you don't know what Reality is - and most Westerners don't - you'll just have to take my word for this.
Or not.

 

[Sapiens]

If you're talking about playing-at life, sure you can do anything at all. This acting-out of life is what many do, and it shows.
If, on the other hand, you prefer to fully live, you must discover how to do that, rather than act in a movie about life.
You live life by becoming life. There is no other means.
And this has nothing at all to do with emotions. Nor 'frames of mind'.
As for 'diffuse', I'm not sure what you mean. There's nothing diffuse about my life. There's nothing more real than Reality.
Of course, if you don't know what Reality is - and most Westerners don't - you'll just have to take my word for this.
Or not.

You come across with a HUGE air of self-important superiority, as though you have the answers that all other should be seeking. That is most unbecoming in one claiming Taoist predilections.

 

[crowfeather]

I know. There's nothing I can do about it, other than being fake, and there's no chance of that.
You may notice, though, that I don't accuse those who accuse me of such things, of being those things they accuse me of, even though it is an obvious fact that they are those very things.
I refrain from doing this, because I am of no importance, and who cares what I say, anyway? Other than you, that is.
You care enough about what I say to announce what you judge to be my failings to the whole world.
I don't know why you'd do this, but it is not rare.
In fact, there are certainly more of you than there are of me.
So think yourself lucky.

As it happens, I do have the answers you mention. There's no as-if about it.
But, much as you might like to imagine it, I don't supply them to make myself 'look good'.
I do it because nobody else is, or can.

Your valuable input is appreciated. Feel free to have a real knees-up.
The World of people will probably thank you for it.

 

[Darkstorn]

You may notice, though, that I don't accuse those who accuse me of such things, of being those things they accuse me of, even though it is an obvious fact that they are those very things.

I refrain from doing this, because I am of no importance, and who cares what I say, anyway?

You refrain from doing the thing you did in your post?

Ehhhhhhh.

/E: I can totally see why you hate thinkers so much.

 

[crowfeather]

Hating isn't my thing, but it would appear to be yours.
In fact, I reliably expose people for what they are, every time I have dealings with them.
I don't do this by design, it happens, unprompted, all by itself.
Just watch: every time somebody mounts an attack on me, by accusing me of certain failings, if you investigate, you will unerringly discover that those accusers are, in fact, describing their own behaviors.
This seems to be a law of human character. I am an unwitting catalyst in the process. I'd rather not be, but there it is.
Buddhists speak of this mirroring effect of advanced beings, reflecting back to accusers the very behavior they accuse others of.
It is mysterious.

Thankfully, the good outnumber the bad. But the bad make far more noise than the good. That's humans for you.

 

[Darkstorn]

In fact, I reliably expose people for what they are, every time I have dealings with them.

I feel statements like that expose you a lot more than it does whomever you are judging...

Careful, your self-centeredness is showing.

Just watch: every time somebody mounts an attack on me, by accusing me of certain failings, if you investigate, you will unerringly discover that those accusers are, in fact, describing their own behaviors.

Poe's Law.

 

[crowfeather]

I'm sure you see whatever you decide you see. I'm also sure that in your view, you are right.
But I am not like you, or anybody else.
I see what is there.
A great rarity.

 

[Darkstorn]

I'm sure you see whatever you decide you see. I'm also sure that in your view, you are right.

Imagine me repeating this to you without changing a word. It'd be equally valid as your empty unsubstantiated claim right there.

But I am not like you, or anybody else.

You haven't shown this to be true in any way except the following: Most people have manners.

I see what is there.

Empty unsubstantiated claim. I can counter it with this: No you can't. An equal claim.

A great rarity.

Your confidence in your own superiority is a detriment for your image of pureness. You feel very fallible from the content of your posts. Vain almost.

 

[crowfeather]

Fine. You show me, once again how utterly pointless and counterproductive it is to deal with forum users at all.
There are no good people. Only those who are out and out bad - atheists, and those whose religious aspects restrain them from being equally as bad.
You all deserve exactly what you end up with: a world you go on and on about wanting to change, while being the reason you think it needs changing.

I'm done.
'Bye.

 

[Darkstorn]

Fine. You show me, once again how utterly pointless and counterproductive it is to deal with forum users at all.

Herein lies the problem: YOU are a forum user. A lot of the content in your posts seems to be accusing others of what everyone can witness YOU performing. What is your purpose?

There are no good people. Only those who are out and out bad - atheists, and those whose religious aspects restrain them from being equally as bad.

I make the claim that good and bad are human concepts, depend on viewpoints, and are based on actions, not "innate" nature of things. You are bad if you perform bad deeds, you are good if you perform good deeds. Sometimes you're bad when you do good things etc. It's so ridiculously subjective it's not worth arguing about.

ESPECIALLY when you haven't shown that YOU are a good person.

You all deserve exactly what you end up with: a world you go on and on about wanting to change, while being the reason you think it needs changing.

You deserve all that cause and effect has to offer for you. Karma.

I'm done.
'Bye.

At least you will cause less suffering to mankind by your actions if you do this.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

If you're talking about playing-at life, sure you can do anything at all. This acting-out of life is what many do, and it shows.
If, on the other hand, you prefer to fully live, you must discover how to do that, rather than act in a movie about life.
You live life by becoming life. There is no other means.
And this has nothing at all to do with emotions. Nor 'frames of mind'.
As for 'diffuse', I'm not sure what you mean. There's nothing diffuse about my life. There's nothing more real than Reality.
Of course, if you don't know what Reality is - and most Westerners don't - you'll just have to take my word for this.
Or not.

What insights on reality do you think that you have to share with me?

And why do you think that you can give me useful life advice? How could you possibly improve my life knowing nothing about it or my state of happiness? I am content, comfortable, surrounded by beauty and friends, healthy, happily married, making a difference in the lives of others, and live without fear or regret. How are you planning to improve upon that?

Why would I take your word for anything? If you have a case to make, make it, and I'll assess it.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Hating isn't my thing, but it would appear to be yours.
In fact, I reliably expose people for what they are, every time I have dealings with them.
I don't do this by design, it happens, unprompted, all by itself.
Just watch: every time somebody mounts an attack on me, by accusing me of certain failings, if you investigate, you will unerringly discover that those accusers are, in fact, describing their own behaviors.
This seems to be a law of human character. I am an unwitting catalyst in the process. I'd rather not be, but there it is.
Buddhists speak of this mirroring effect of advanced beings, reflecting back to accusers the very behavior they accuse others of.
It is mysterious.

Thankfully, the good outnumber the bad. But the bad make far more noise than the good. That's humans for you.

"Advanced being"? You give yourself too much credit.

Your personality offends people. A few have already told you, and your words, "every time somebody mounts an attack on me" tell me that you're used to it.

You see this as you being some guru reflecting back a painful message of great wisdom and value. I see a guy who hasn't presented a single idea since I've been posting here except that he's sees himself as the light at the end of everybody else's tunnel of darkness.

You mentioned "playing-at life," but isn't that what you are doing here? No amount of incense, reference to deep truths that you claim to have, or finger symbols makes you anything other than a guy playing a role like David Carradine on Kung Fu, although you come off more like Steven Segal.

Bring something of substance to the table if you can. What great insights and life lessons do you have to share?