Any tips for Bible Study?

[Thief]

How can a translation be skewed?




Check Matt 4:1-11

check the preamble of John
He gathers disciples immediately and then is seen at a wedding
changing water to wine

 

[Thief]

Better to read Paul's own account of his encounter with Christ through which Saul's thinking and his entire life was transformed from one who persecuted the followers of Christ to saying yes to Christ in baptism.
Luke's account in Acts is somewhat embellished with symbolic details.

try placing yourself in the event as if you are Saul....struck down under a blinding light

go from there

 

[Thief]

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you don't believe that Jesus was tempted by the devil?

as per Mark, Matthew and Luke?....ok
as per John.....also ok

but we are left to decide which testimony to follow

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Yes there is a significant difference there. IMO it is because Jews are to rigid in their understanding of alma, and they are unwilling to accept anything that will reinforce the virgin birth of Jesus, ...

What a pathetic, and pathetically ignorant, joke. Feel free to defend your Christianized 7:14 in its own thread - or, if you wish, a one-on-one debate.

 

[pearl]

try placing yourself in the event as if you are Saul....struck down under a blinding light

This method is Lectio Divina (divine reading) and I practice if often. That's why I stated better to do so with Paul's own account of his 'conversion'.

 

[Thief]

This method is Lectio Divina (divine reading) and I practice if often. That's why I stated better to do so with Paul's own account of his 'conversion'.

so...you think getting knocked off the horse (by a slap up the head) by the Hand of God.....
is not noteworthy?

seems an important pivot of mind to me....

 

[pearl]

so...you think getting knocked off the horse (by a slap up the head) by the Hand of God.....
is not noteworthy?

You might read Paul's letters and compare them with Acts.

 

[Thief]

You might read Paul's letters and compare them with Acts.

been there

I'm not much for leaning to Paul
I prefer the parables of the Carpenter
I believe they are sufficient

 

[Daisies4me]

as per Mark, Matthew and Luke?....ok
as per John.....also ok

but we are left to decide which testimony to follow

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Are not all scriptures inspired of God and beneficial for setting things straight? Far be it from me to attempt to discredit any of the Bible writers who give their own account of what happened, rather than cookie cutter repetition, when each one wrote independently of the other?

God's Spirit was with each of the Bible writers, and the 66 books of the Bible 'cannon', are all accepted as Inspired of God , are they not?
Matthew was written in Palestine, C. 41 CE, covering the time 2 BCE-33CE.
Originally written in Hebrew, translated into Greek later by Matthew.
Mark was written in Rome, c. 60-65 CE, time covered, 29-33 CE.
Luke was written in Caesarea, c. 56-58 CE, time covered, 3 BCE-33 CE.
John was written near Ephesus, completed c.98 CE.
time covered, after prologue, 29-33 CE.
So, are you suggesting that any of these writings are somehow not valid, or a part of God's Inspired Word? Is that your stance?

 

[omega2xx]

check the preamble of John
He gathers disciples immediately and then is seen at a wedding
changing water to wine

None of the Gospels are given in chronological order. Each gospel has a central theme and some thing are not included to emphasize that theme. Where is the mistranslation? Which words were mistranslated?

 

[Tumah]

I am wondering how the English name Jehovah could be a 'non-word' when I find at KJV Psalms 83:18 that God's name ( in English ) is Jehovah.

Because apparently the KJV used the most common vowel point found in the Masoretic text. Not the only one used for the Tetragrammaton mind you, but the most common one.

 

[Tumah]

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There were no vowels in the original manuscripts. only consonants. Later, uninspired scribes added 'vowel points' , and then vowels. the title adonai is not a name. Nor is Lord, or God a name. They are titles. The Divine Name of the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, the God of Jacob, is Yod He Vah He. translated today as Jehovah by many Bible translators.

And where do you think they got the vowels for that word?

 

[Tumah]

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har har har And when Jews don't recognize information quoted verbatim from their own publications, it is really telling....
The last sentence is mine, but the rest is from Judaism 101.
Perhaps you aren't aware, but many former Jews are now JW's. oh, yes! Last count had 12 congregations in what is now the government and member of the United Nations, Israel. And that has been a while since I checked... former Jews don't know about the religion they were raised in, so you think?
JW's come out of all nations, tribes, tongues, and previous religious associations, and are in over 240 lands on earth-- with many Bible study aids published in 700 languages, complete Bibles in over 400 languages and counting.
Do not suppose that you or your associates, however educated you may feel yourself to be, are ahead of the benefits of being in harmony with Jehovah's Holy Spirit directing His earthly Organization that is doing His will today. Thata favor was taken away from the collective descendants of Jacob, and a 'new covenant' was made with 'spiritual Israel', who accepted Jesus as the Messiah sent forth by God. We may not be as 'smart' as you feel that you are, but Jehovah's Spirit is incomparable, and to whom He wants to, He gives it.
May you find peace ,

Actually it turns out that the vast majority of Jews to turn to other Abrahamic religion (and more often than not, Eastern religions) don't know very much about Judaism.

But let's not get into an appeal to popularity.

 

[Tumah]

Yes there is a significant difference there. IMO it is because Jews are to rigid in their understanding of alma, and they are unwilling to accept anything that will reinforce the virgin birth of Jesus, but you can't make your case with just one example

In that verse there is also a significant difference between the NASB and the NRSV.

Its actually you guys that are being too rigid, by only accepting a specific type of young woman. We accept that in includes both virgin (such as in Genesis) and non-virgin woman (such as in Ecclesiastes). You only accept that it means virgin.

 

[omega2xx]

What a pathetic, and pathetically ignorant, joke. Feel free to defend your Christianized 7:14 in its own thread - or, if you wish, a one-on-one debate.

Not interested. I know all of your arguments and you will not say anything I haven't heard before and we will never agree.

 

[Daisies4me]

And where do you think they got the vowels for that word?

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where did they get the vowel points for such names (not being contradicted or discarded, but accepted as accurate ) Jesus? Jeremiah? Jonah? Ezekiel? and any other Bible word? Why is it that you single out the Divine Name of God, and reject it, but have no problem at all with the names Isaiah, Jesus, etc.?
Please, do explain....

 

[Tumah]

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where did they get the vowel points for such names (not being contradicted or discarded, but accepted as accurate ) Jesus? Jeremiah? Jonah? Ezekiel? and any other Bible word? Why is it that you single out the Divine Name of God, and reject it, but have no problem at all with the names Isaiah, Jesus, etc.?
Please, do explain....

I'll be happy to. They got the pronunciation from the Masoretic text.
The difference being that we know the Masoretes used substitute vowel points for the name of G-d.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Not interested.

Not surprised.

I know all of your arguments ...

Actually, I suspect that you understand none of them.

... and we will never agree.

It's called "willful ignorance."

 

[omega2xx]

Its actually you guys that are being too rigid, by only accepting a specific type of young woman. We accept that in includes both virgin (such as in Genesis) and non-virgin woman (such as in Ecclesiastes). You only accept that it means virgin.

Tell me this, how could the child be identified and named it the mother was nhot a virgin? A young girl having a son would be a common event in Jerusalem at that time.

 

[Daisies4me]

Actually it turns out that the vast majority of Jews to turn to other Abrahamic religion (and more often than not, Eastern religions) don't know very much about Judaism.

But let's not get into an appeal to popularity.

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Could it be that they have 'awakened' spiritually enough to recognize the falsehoods and doctrines of men that caused the God of Israel to reject the collective descendants of Jacob,or Israel, the Pharisees , Sadducees, et.al., as His 'chosen' people, and have the Mosaic Law Covenant fulfilled by the death of his perfect Son, and then Mediated the "new Covenant, not written on stone tablets, but written on hearts", Spiritual Israel ?

Jeremiah 31:31-34.

Bible study is very beneficial for seeking truths about the Creator, God Almighty, who's Name is Jehovah.
Exodus 6:3 , Isaiah 12:2: 26:4