Why do babies cry?

[viole]

The covenant of the rainbow was God's promise never to destroy all life again by a flood. Which God made after he destroyed all the sinners with the flood. Sort of ironic that it's the symbol of Gay pride. But hey, it makes sense right?

It is good to know that He will never destroy all life with a flood again. I am a vey poor swimmer, and I vastly prefer to be killed by some other means. Probably.

May I reccomend to God a targetted painless zapping out of existence restricted to sinners next time? You know, something like a laser pointed gun. That would offer the advantage of saving place in the ark and reduce the distress of killing a more than necessary amount of trees to build the ark. Not to speak of the logistics needed to gather all those animals and plants in the same place. Elephants take a lot of space, after all, and I doubt that elephants, and trees, are sinners.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Kemosloby]

It is good to know that He will never destroy all life with a flood again. I am a vey poor swimmer, and I vastly prefer to be killed by some other means. Probably.

May I reccomend to God a targetted painless zapping out of existence restricted to sinners next time? You know, something like a laser pointed gun. That would offer the advantage of saving place in the ark and the distress of killing a more than necessary amount of trees to build the ark. Elephants take a lot of space, after all, and I doubt that elephants, and trees, are sinners.

Ciao

- viole

You're in luck, God says next time he'll destroy all life with fire. I'm with you though, painless zapping is the way to go.

 

[Ouroboros]

Ok, maybe I missed on that. But they don't throw a fit like human babies.

Chimpanzee and gorilla babies/kids throw fits. I've seen it while studying primates for one of my classes. So...

The screaming part, well, that probably evolved based on that we managed to make safer lives. In the wild, it's dangerous to make sounds. When humans started to make safe dwellings, it became less important to keep quiet. Besides, animal babies do make sounds, just not loud screaming ones, for safety reasons.

 

[buddhist]

Human babies seem a little different than animal babies, Perhaps this is a clue that God is true and evolution is wrong. If we are so like the animals, why do human babies cry and animal offspring seem fairly content. Could it be that only human babies are born corrupted by sin as the bible says?

Babies - and adults - cry because they're suffering.

IMO babies come into the world knowing they're entering into a world full of suffering.

 

[Father Heathen]

Human babies seem a little different than animal babies, Perhaps this is a clue that God is true and evolution is wrong. If we are so like the animals, why do human babies cry and animal offspring seem fairly content. Could it be that only human babies are born corrupted by sin as the bible says?

The covenant of the rainbow;
Genesis 8:21 The LORD smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: "Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.

So perhaps humans come into the world with evil inclinations, enough to scare the babies and make them cry.

 

[Deeje]

Human babies seem a little different than animal babies, Perhaps this is a clue that God is true and evolution is wrong. If we are so like the animals, why do human babies cry and animal offspring seem fairly content. Could it be that only human babies are born corrupted by sin as the bible says?

Or that crying is a mechanism that any normal mother cannot ignore? Human infants are born helpless, depending upon their mothers for their every need. Mothers get to know what a crying baby needs. There are different cries that a mother learns so that she understands the communication before verbal speech is learned.

The covenant of the rainbow;
Genesis 8:21 The LORD smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: "Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.

Yes the Rainbow Covenant is interesting....in Gen 9:8-11 it goes on to say.....

"Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him: 9 “I am now establishing my covenant with you and with your offspring after you, 10 and with every living creature that is with you, the birds, the animals, and all the living creatures of the earth with you, all those that came out of the ark—every living creature of the earth. 11 Yes, I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all flesh be destroyed by the waters of a flood, and never again will a flood bring the earth to ruin."

So God was never again going to curse the ground or to flood the earth again, but that didn't mean that another judgment wasn't coming. The final judgment involves "the destruction of ungodly people", not damage to the earth itself.

2 Peter 3:5-7:
"For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; 6 and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water. 7 But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people."

So perhaps humans come into the world with evil inclinations, enough to scare the babies and make them cry.

I don't think it is a case of evil inclinations, as much as it is the physical, mental and spiritual imperfection that resulted from the disobedience of our first parents. (Romans 5:12) "Sin" is an archery term that means to "miss the mark".....we certainly do 'miss the mark' when it comes to aging, sickness and death....we also miss the mark when it comes to making good decisions, often with disastrous consequences.

None of this was ever supposed to happen.

 

[Kemosloby]

Or that crying is a mechanism that any normal mother cannot ignore? Human infants are born helpless, depending upon their mothers for their every need. Mothers get to know what a crying baby needs. There are different cries that a mother learns so that she understands the communication before verbal speech is learned.

Yes the Rainbow Covenant is interesting....in Gen 9:8-11 it goes on to say.....

"Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him: 9 “I am now establishing my covenant with you and with your offspring after you, 10 and with every living creature that is with you, the birds, the animals, and all the living creatures of the earth with you, all those that came out of the ark—every living creature of the earth. 11 Yes, I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all flesh be destroyed by the waters of a flood, and never again will a flood bring the earth to ruin."

So God was never again going to curse the ground or to flood the earth again, but that didn't mean that another judgment wasn't coming. The final judgment involves "the destruction of ungodly people", not damage to the earth itself.

2 Peter 3:5-7:
"For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; 6 and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water. 7 But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people."



I don't think it is a case of evil inclinations, as much as it is the physical, mental and spiritual imperfection that resulted from the disobedience of our first parents. (Romans 5:12) "Sin" is an archery term that means to "miss the mark".....we certainly do 'miss the mark' when it comes to aging, sickness and death....we also miss the mark when it comes to making good decisions, often with disastrous consequences.

None of this was ever supposed to happen.

Yet even after the flood God says in Genesis, "Every inclination of mans heart is evil, even from his childhood" Then God still blessed Noah and told him to be prosperous.

 

[Milton Platt]

Human babies seem a little different than animal babies, Perhaps this is a clue that God is true and evolution is wrong. If we are so like the animals, why do human babies cry and animal offspring seem fairly content. Could it be that only human babies are born corrupted by sin as the bible says?

The covenant of the rainbow;
Genesis 8:21 The LORD smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: "Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.

So perhaps humans come into the world with evil inclinations, enough to scare the babies and make them cry.

makes no sense at all. All crying by infants is not from fear. they cry when hungry, cry when wet, cry when ill, cry when lonely, cry when uncomfortable.......

Just because baby animals don't cry the same way as baby humans does not mean they don't express all the same things with sounds. The sounds are just different.

 

[Kemosloby]

makes no sense at all. All crying by infants is not from fear. they cry when hungry, cry when wet, cry when ill, cry when lonely, cry when uncomfortable.......

Just because baby animals don't cry the same way as baby humans does not mean they don't express all the same things with sounds. The sounds are just different.

Sometimes they seem to cry for no reason and nothing can stop them. Uncomfortable could be an inner discomfort. Sure they cry for normal reasons too. But the animals lack that senseless uncontrollable crying that babies do.

 

[Deeje]

Yet even after the flood God says in Genesis, "Every inclination of mans heart is evil, even from his childhood" Then God still blessed Noah and told him to be prosperous.

The flood was intended as a stop gap measure to slow down the level of evil brought into the world by the activities of rebel angels. Noah and his family were still subject to sin. It was their obedience that saved them. God told them how to save themselves and it required monumental effort on their part for many decades to complete the task of building an ark for the preservation of life. Noah and his family only prospered because they obeyed God's direction to the letter. (Genesis 6:22)

Sin will not be removed from mankind until the end of Christ's thousand year reign. Till then we are all subject to sin and must fight those inclinations in order to follow Jesus' teachings.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Human infants cry because this is how they indicate that they need something.

Much like a nest full of chicks will cry out until they're fed.
Having said that, birds are full of sin. They're constantly crapping on my car.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Sometimes they seem to cry for no reason and nothing can stop them. Uncomfortable could be an inner discomfort. Sure they cry for normal reasons too. But the animals lack that senseless uncontrollable crying that babies do.

I think this has been reasonably explained:

Humans have much more developed lung capacity and vocal cord strength to make crying the primary means of communication with their parents.

We are fairly removed from exposed living which would select for quieter offspring. You see this difference in domestic dogs and birds, to.

Primate babies all innately have separation anxiety. It is very unusual for primates to be out of reach from their offspring like we do. This means longer crying and more emotional stress.

 

[Sapiens]

Try reading up on the topic of neotony, this is the second time that your lack of background concerning this evolutionary trend has come back to bite you.

 

[Nietzsche]

Yeah I considered that, but the foal crying for mom was controlled, more of a call than a cry. Human babies is not at all controlled.

Do you have a degree in any sort of animal-related field?

 

[Nietzsche]

The covenant of the rainbow was God's promise never to destroy all life again by a flood. Which God made after he destroyed all the sinners with the flood. Sort of ironic that it's the symbol of Gay pride. But hey, it makes sense right?

The rainbow existed long before a bunch of illiterate goat herders in the desert decided it meant something.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Your answer is in the OP. It is because we are humans, not animals, that we are specially exceptionally different than them in so many things, not just crying for several reasons not just at birth. I just don't agree that babies cry because of sin. To the contrary, babies are the purest of all ages.

 

[Kirran]

Perhaps this is a clue that God is true and evolution is wrong.

Why is this a dichotomy? What about the other options - 1) God is true and evolution is real, 2) God is not true and evolution isn't real, 3) God is not true and evolution is real.

I'm happily ensconced in 1) myself.

 

[Kemosloby]

Why is this a dichotomy? What about the other options - 1) God is true and evolution is real, 2) God is not true and evolution isn't real, 3) God is not true and evolution is real.

I'm happily ensconced in 1) myself.

To fit the thread it has to be Evolutionism vs. Creation. Does the creator know us better than science? Are our hearts inclined to evil even from childhood? Even though perhaps we become comfotable with it, numb to it, blind to it, and even addicted to it in some cases.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Evolution isn't in opposition to God. It is in opposition to some over paid corrupt ministers much as the truth about the Earth going round the Sun is in opposition to some late corrupt clerics. They held out, but eventually their own churches finally repudiated them.

 

[Kirran]

To fit the thread it has to be Evolutionism vs. Creation. Does the creator know us better than science? Are our hearts inclined to evil even from childhood? Even though perhaps we become comfotable with it, numb to it, blind to it, and even addicted to it in some cases.

I just think there's no need to set up a false dichotomy. I believe in evolution and creation.

I don't believe in intrinsic evil, I think that's largely an Abrahamic construct.