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How Long Before Science Creates Life?

How long before scientists create life on the order of complexity of a bacterium?

  • Never

    Votes: 6 24.0%
  • Within Five Years

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Within Ten Years

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Within Fifteen Years

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Within Twenty Years

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Within Twenty-five Years

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • More than Twenty-five years in the future

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • They already have.

    Votes: 7 28.0%

  • Total voters
    25

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Easy man !
Why you insult people just because disagree with you!
Just curious what provoke you?
Truth hurts.
That you refuse to learn the truth merely makes it hurt more when it is presented.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Truth hurts.
That you refuse to learn the truth merely makes it hurt more when it is presented.
lol
If learning make me rude with other,I definitly become bad exemple to next generation.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That is just a convenient excuse for you to hold onto your blissful ignorance.
Claiming known better,is kind of arrogance and childhood, plus when discuss go personalizing/rude level.
for me it's sign of weakness and defeat in the debate.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Claiming known better,is kind of arrogance and childhood, plus when discuss go personalizing/rude level.
for me it's sign of weakness and defeat in the debate.

If someone came up to you and started telling you that the Arabic alphabet had only seventeen characters, or that the Arabic language was very similar to Italian, wouldn't you saw you knew better than them? Simply because you had spent more time studying Arabic and could tell they were wrong. In the same way, if someone knows about evolution well and someone says things like this about it, it's not unreasonable to assume this person doesn't know much about it.
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
If someone came up to you and started telling you that the Arabic alphabet had only seventeen characters, or that the Arabic language was very similar to Italian, wouldn't you saw you knew better than them? Simply because you had spent more time studying Arabic and could tell they were wrong. In the same way, if someone knows about evolution well and someone says things like this about it, it's not unreasonable to assume this person doesn't know much about it.
His whining about me is nothing more than a distraction from the facts he has to protect his faith from.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
If someone came up to you and started telling you that the Arabic alphabet had only seventeen characters, or that the Arabic language was very similar to Italian, wouldn't you saw you knew better than them? Simply because you had spent more time studying Arabic and could tell they were wrong. In the same way, if someone knows about evolution well and someone says things like this about it, it's not unreasonable to assume this person doesn't know much about it.
Wrong explaination and exemple.
1- This thread had nothing to do with evolution understanding.
2-Evolution is not secrect theory . I know it's basics.
3- being rude because " I know more",is impolite way of discuss. and sign of failure the discuss.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Of course it is.
It is how you protect your ignorance.
His whining about me is nothing more than a distraction from the facts he has to protect his faith from.
I don't go to be rude because I thought "I know more than others "
that's impolite people usually use that way of speech.
and it's proven argument of fail discuss to turn to personal.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Wrong explaination and exemple.
1- This thread had nothing to do with evolution understanding.
2-Evolution is not secrect theory . I know it's basics.
3- being rude because " I know more",is impolite way of discuss. and sign of failure the discuss.

OK, then let's extend it - you have demonstrated in our discussions that you do NOT understand the basics of evolution, abiogenesis or synthetic biology (which is what the thread's title is about). That being the case, it is not unreasonable when people try and call you on that.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
OK, then let's extend it - you have demonstrated in our discussions that you do NOT understand the basics of evolution, abiogenesis or synthetic biology (which is what the thread's title is about). That being the case, it is not unreasonable when people try and call you on that.
That's your claim.

I do understand basics of evolution, that theory is not exclusive for atheists,or anyone else.

You absolutly wrong,the title of this thread has nothing to do with theory of evolution.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
That's your claim.

I do understand basics of evolution, that theory is not exclusive for atheists,or anyone else.

You absolutly wrong,the title of this thread has nothing to do with theory of evolution.

I have personally studied evolution in an academic context. Every time somebody says something like 'came about by chance/accident' they demonstrate they don't know anything about evolution.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I meant theory of evolution, ok?

What this thread had to do with evolution theory, evolution vs creation discuss ?
The idea that humans can never create lifeforms such as a fly is a manifestation of Creationist ideology.

In practice, it is a variation of "Is there any truth in Evolution". Or more exactly, of "Is there enough truth in the Theory of Evolution to make it possible to create life?"

While the ToE does not actually say that it is and does not imply abiogenesis, it does point out positively towards both. Creationism, being in truth just denial of the ToE, needs both to be impossible.
 
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