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Are we living in the "end times".(Christian)

Kolibri

Well-Known Member
"Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and compassionate, (or "gracious.") slow to anger and abundant in loyal love (or "loving-kindness.") and truth, (or "faithfulness.")" - Exodus 34:6b

"Look! We consider happy (or "blessed.") those who have endured. You have heard of the endurance of Job and have seen the outcome Jehovah gave, that Jehovah is very tender in affection (or "very compassionate.") and merciful." - James 5:11

Jehovah is merciful and compassionate,
Slow to anger and abundant in loyal love.
He will not always find fault,
Nor will he stay resentful forever.
He has not dealt with us according to our sins,
Nor has he repaid us what our errors deserve.
- Psalm 103:9,10

He has told you, O man, what is good.
And what is Jehovah requiring (or "asking back.") of you?
Only to exercise justice, (or "to be just; to be fair.") to cherish loyalty. (or "to be kind and loyal in your love." Lit., "to love loyal love.")
And to walk modesty with your God!
- Micah 6:8

Why would God require of us kindness, fairness, mercy and compassion if he did not value those qualities and emulate them himself?
Using Satan as a tool to punish people would be a perversion of Justice, for Satan does not value justice. That would be sadistic.
What you say does not match a God of Love.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Believe me it is not God’s word that you are reading in the Quran. It is the word of a very false man who claimed to be a prophet.
sorry I ignore it's Christian DIR .

that's what called "faith"

, IF God want to made all the humans, just Chrisitans or just Muslims , so He could .
 

Johnlove

Active Member
sorry I ignore it's Christian DIR .

that's what called "faith"

, IF God want to made all the humans, just Chrisitans or just Muslims , so He could .
God gives people a free will to choose. Jesus personally asked me to be a minister of his. Then Jesus personally asked me to give him my life.

I made the choice to give God my life, and that is all one can give God. People can only give back to God what he gave to them.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
God gives people a free will to choose. Jesus personally asked me to be a minister of his. Then Jesus personally asked me to give him my life.

I made the choice to give God my life, and that is all one can give God. People can only give back to God what he gave to them.
how he ask you ?

accautly I love Jesus (pbuh) and Mary , but i don't believe that he is son of God or God .
 

Johnlove

Active Member
how he ask you ?

accautly I love Jesus (pbuh) and Mary , but i don't believe that he is son of God or God .
Jesus talks to me. Also Jesus has shown himself to me.

If you believed Jesus was God then you would not believe in the false prophet’s lies.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
You said: People should understand that all the suffering, and death going on in the world is God’s wrath, and know they are not to feel sorry for the people who are suffering. The people are receiving what they deserve.
You say that every person in the world that suffers, even death, deserves what they are getting.
ALL people, everywhere. You wrote it in plain language.
It seems to me to be very judgemental by you.
Do I think Moses & Noah felt sorrow for those suffering God's wrath.
YES. I believe those men would have wanted NO ONE to suffer.
 

Johnlove

Active Member
You said: People should understand that all the suffering, and death going on in the world is God’s wrath, and know they are not to feel sorry for the people who are suffering. The people are receiving what they deserve.
You say that every person in the world that suffers, even death, deserves what they are getting.
ALL people, everywhere. You wrote it in plain language.
It seems to me to be very judgemental by you.
Do I think Moses & Noah felt sorrow for those suffering God's wrath.
YES. I believe those men would have wanted NO ONE to suffer.
Jesus told us to pray for God’s will to be done. So then why should anyone feel bad when God’s will is being done?
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Jesus told us to pray for God’s will to be done. So then why should anyone feel bad when God’s will is being done?

I'm encouraged if world events signal an end to the suffering of innocents if those events really fulfill scripture.
You seem to indicate that ALL people that suffer DESERVE suffering.
That is very judgemental and wrong. I try to do what I can to aid those suffering.
Doing so is both a positive human quality and shows "Christian" in action.
How can you believe humans who suffer drought, eaerthquakes, lack of water, famine, disease, deserve what is happening to them.
Need I remind you that those kinds of events (and more) cause suffering for all people, those that might exhibit great spritual qulaities and those that may not.
I don't subscribe the the Just World Hypothesis.
You are either sadly mislead or diliberately baiting people by your harsh writing.
"'Do I take any pleasure at all in the death of the a wicked person?' declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. 'Do I not prefer that he turn away from his ways and keep living?'" - Ezekiel 18:23
This in scritpure about even the "evil and wicked".
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
It is not the end times; it is a new beginning for those chosen. ;)

Hey! I LIKE THAT!!!:D:D
What a wonderful point of view, a great perspective. It's heartwarming and enightening.
THANK YOU for that.
You made my whole day in this frozen, 7 degrees, snowy, N.E. Ohio.
I prefer no to think of "chosen" as chosen but it works here.
I would like to think the "chosen" are those that dig out the truth of Jehovah's word and how the word makes meaning then DO something with that truth.
Thanks again.
 

Johnlove

Active Member
I'm encouraged if world events signal an end to the suffering of innocents if those events really fulfill scripture.
You seem to indicate that ALL people that suffer DESERVE suffering.
That is very judgemental and wrong. I try to do what I can to aid those suffering.
Doing so is both a positive human quality and shows "Christian" in action.
How can you believe humans who suffer drought, eaerthquakes, lack of water, famine, disease, deserve what is happening to them.
Need I remind you that those kinds of events (and more) cause suffering for all people, those that might exhibit great spritual qulaities and those that may not.
I don't subscribe the the Just World Hypothesis.
You are either sadly mislead or diliberately baiting people by your harsh writing.
"'Do I take any pleasure at all in the death of the a wicked person?' declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. 'Do I not prefer that he turn away from his ways and keep living?'" - Ezekiel 18:23
This in scritpure about even the "evil and wicked".
What you believe me to think does not matter.

God told me to stop feeling sorry for people who I hear are suffering. He told me it is his doing, and I was not to try and undo what he wants done.

God has also told me we are in the End Time Tribulation.

God had me give to people for all of my ministry, and it is very natural for me to want to be able to help others.

I now pray for God’s will to be done, and if it is God’s will for a person to suffer, then that is what I am praying for.

If it is God’s will for a person to be relieved of whatever he or she is suffering, then that is also what I pray for.

If God wants me to help out someone who is suffering then he will tell me to help him or her.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
"god" told you? Really? Was this in a personal converstation with god?
Or is it what you read and interpret?
I call you "spellcheck" because of your obession with demeaning people for misspelling a word.
So, I ignore what you say, as you seem to relish in pointing out mistakes.
 

Johnlove

Active Member
"god" told you? Really? Was this in a personal converstation with god?
Or is it what you read and interpret?
I call you "spellcheck" because of your obession with demeaning people for misspelling a word.
So, I ignore what you say, as you seem to relish in pointing out mistakes.
Who are you addressing? If it is me when did I ever correct someone’s spelling?
 

ronandcarol

Member
Premium Member
Are we living in the "end times".(Christian)
The Bible does say that no one knows, only the father. But there are definite signs.
But I believe that everyone's end times are their own. (Unless you are alive when Jesus returns.)
When each of us dies, that will be our end times. Be prepared.

ronandcarol
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
It is not the end times; it is a new beginning for those chosen. ;)

I like your ^ above ^ post because to me Matthew 24:14 is about the 'end time of all badness on Earth' before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in a new beginning for Earth starting with Day One of Jesus' 1,000-year governmental rulership when even enemy death will end on Earth.
- 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8; Revelation 22:2
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
God has also told me we are in the End Time Tribulation.
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If we are in the end-time tribulation (Revelation 7:14) then, to me, we would already be passed the ' final signal ', so to speak, of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3.
Before the end-time tribulation begins ' they ' (powers that be) will be saying" Peace and Security " as precursor to the coming great tribulation.
Aren't we also nearing the soon coming ' time of separation ' of Matthew 25:31-33 ?
 

kaoticprofit

Active Member
What you believe me to think does not matter.

God told me to stop feeling sorry for people who I hear are suffering. He told me it is his doing, and I was not to try and undo what he wants done.

God has also told me we are in the End Time Tribulation.

God had me give to people for all of my ministry, and it is very natural for me to want to be able to help others.

I now pray for God’s will to be done, and if it is God’s will for a person to suffer, then that is what I am praying for.

If it is God’s will for a person to be relieved of whatever he or she is suffering, then that is also what I pray for.

If God wants me to help out someone who is suffering then he will tell me to help him or her.

God told me to stop feeling sorry for people who I hear are suffering. He told me it is his doing, and I was not to try and undo what he wants done.
Red flags come up when people talk like that.... God told me???

God has also told me we are in the End Time Tribulation.
How did He tell you that? In a dream or vision. Is it just you're 'gut feeling?' Or did you hear His voice? Or did you discover that in the bible?

If God wants me to help out someone who is suffering then he will tell me to help him or her.
That's one of my problems with Christians. It's as though they can't make any decisions on their own.
 
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