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The Trinity makes no sense to me. Please Explain....

firedragon

Veteran Member
I will ask you very direct questions. And to be honest there is only so many responses you can give.

Did god create everything good?

What was gods intention when he created us?

Why are people born crippled?

If it is only fair that we contain the consequences for our actions explain why our parents diseases pass on to us? That's not fair, why did God create DNA that way?

I answered this.

http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...ether-good-or-bad.187117/page-11#post-4742796
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The Trinity makes no sense to me. Please Explain....

Trinity never made any sense to Moses also, he never mentioned it.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Subhankar Zac said:
No one says Christianity is universal. Hinduism is universal.
Jesus doesn't appear in Hindu pantheon
@Subhankar Zac
So one accepts that Hinduism is not universal, its scriptures don't claim it and give no reason for this claim.
Regards
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Subhankar Zac said:
No one says Christianity is universal. Hinduism is universal.
Jesus doesn't appear in Hindu pantheon
@Subhankar Zac
So one accepts that Hinduism is not universal, its scriptures don't claim it and give no reason for this claim.
Regards


Hinduism doesn't go around forcefully converting people by fear and death threats.
It's a 5000-7000 year old still surviving major group of diverse religions.
Hinduism is called the Sanatan Dharma which means the law or duty of eternity.
By all its a universal concept. It accepts all dieties of all cultures.

Whereas Christianity is an exclusive faith that has no tolerance for any other faith.
Before you deny it and ask for evidence read your bible.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Hinduism doesn't go around forcefully converting people by fear and death threats.
It's a 5000-7000 year old still surviving major group of diverse religions.
Hinduism is called the Sanatan Dharma which means the law or duty of eternity.
By all its a universal concept. It accepts all dieties of all cultures.
Whereas Christianity is an exclusive faith that has no tolerance for any other faith.
Before you deny it and ask for evidence read your bible.
Hinduism is no religion, they say it is the name English people gave it. Is it?
Regards
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
Hinduism is no religion, they say it is the name English people gave it. Is it?
Regards
I don't understand Hinduism at all. They don't kill cows, yet a few eat beef. Some claim there is one god, yet many others will worship any idol they can get. There doesn't seem to be any one thing they all agree on. But I guess Judaism is no different in that respect, or Christianity. I need to get back to studying, there is so much I don't know.
 

Sully

Member
Jesus is Lord. The Holy Spirit is Lord. The Father is Lord. I grant you the trinity is a difficult concept, however, the Lord is infinite and we are finite so any description we can give will be wanting. It is strange that one can see (seemingly) contradictory properties in Nature (his creation) and we accept it yet many balk at accepting the triune nature of God.

Human beings seem to want to simplify God by making his omnipotence a singularity...Humans seem to want God to be distant master.

Our limitations in understanding the nature of God is why, I believe, why God emptied himself and became flesh. Jesus said he was God. As CS Lewis argued... he was either Lord, liar or lunatic he was not merely a good teacher or prophet. The Holy Spirit I know exists because since I became a believer he has dwelt within me.

God wants a personal relationship with each of us...he is our Father not some distant, omnipotent master. In a sense... I don't think Christianity is really a religion.... it is a relationship. Much of the ministry of Jesus was contending with religious leaders (Sanhedrin) who were legalistic and were so caught up in the rabbinical traditions that they lost sight of, and perverted, the real meaning of the scripture. I feel that so many spiritual people are so utterly lost because they believe in the structure and rituals of religion rather than having an intimate personal relationship with our Lord through Jesus Christ.
 

anonymous9887

bible reader
Jesus is Lord. The Holy Spirit is Lord. The Father is Lord. I grant you the trinity is a difficult concept, however, the Lord is infinite and we are finite so any description we can give will be wanting. It is strange that one can see (seemingly) contradictory properties in Nature (his creation) and we accept it yet many balk at accepting the triune nature of God.

Human beings seem to want to simplify God by making his omnipotence a singularity...Humans seem to want God to be distant master.

Our limitations in understanding the nature of God is why, I believe, why God emptied himself and became flesh. Jesus said he was God. As CS Lewis argued... he was either Lord, liar or lunatic he was not merely a good teacher or prophet. The Holy Spirit I know exists because since I became a believer he has dwelt within me.

God wants a personal relationship with each of us...he is our Father not some distant, omnipotent master. In a sense... I don't think Christianity is really a religion.... it is a relationship. Much of the ministry of Jesus was contending with religious leaders (Sanhedrin) who were legalistic and were so caught up in the rabbinical traditions that they lost sight of, and perverted, the real meaning of the scripture. I feel that so many spiritual people are so utterly lost because they believe in the structure and rituals of religion rather than having an intimate personal relationship with our Lord through Jesus Christ.
Well that is quite an interesting idea, but have you ever found an explanation to this argument I am about to present?
1 John 3:20 god knows all things
God= the father the son and the holy spirit.

Matthew 24:36 only the father knows the day and the hour.
The holy spirit if it is a person, does not know, nor does Jesus.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Jesus is Lord. The Holy Spirit is Lord. The Father is Lord. I grant you the trinity is a difficult concept, however, the Lord is infinite and we are finite so any description we can give will be wanting. It is strange that one can see (seemingly) contradictory properties in Nature (his creation) and we accept it yet many balk at accepting the triune nature of God.

Human beings seem to want to simplify God by making his omnipotence a singularity...Humans seem to want God to be distant master.

Our limitations in understanding the nature of God is why, I believe, why God emptied himself and became flesh. Jesus said he was God. As CS Lewis argued... he was either Lord, liar or lunatic he was not merely a good teacher or prophet. The Holy Spirit I know exists because since I became a believer he has dwelt within me.

God wants a personal relationship with each of us...he is our Father not some distant, omnipotent master. In a sense... I don't think Christianity is really a religion.... it is a relationship. Much of the ministry of Jesus was contending with religious leaders (Sanhedrin) who were legalistic and were so caught up in the rabbinical traditions that they lost sight of, and perverted, the real meaning of the scripture. I feel that so many spiritual people are so utterly lost because they believe in the structure and rituals of religion rather than having an intimate personal relationship with our Lord through Jesus Christ.


Acts 2:22

"Men of Israel listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you know."
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
This is modern scholar ship.
Explain your view.

The Athanasian creed has three persons; the Nicene creed does not. The problem with three persons is not that it can't be true in an exclusive way but that it isn't true in the general way that people understand the word "person."
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Acts 2:22

"Men of Israel listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you know."

I believe the point is that God became a man. This scripture does not refute that concept.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Well that is quite an interesting idea, but have you ever found an explanation to this argument I am about to present?
1 John 3:20 god knows all things
God= the father the son and the holy spirit.

Matthew 24:36 only the father knows the day and the hour.
The holy spirit if it is a person, does not know, nor does Jesus.

I believe Jesus is temporal but the Father is eternal. I believe "know" here means experience. I believe by the time the event happens Jesus will no longer be a living being to experience anything.
 

anonymous9887

bible reader
I believe Jesus is temporal but the Father is eternal. I believe "know" here means experience. I believe by the time the event happens Jesus will no longer be a living being to experience anything.
Ok take a look at these passages:
1. Matthew 3:16,17 the holy spirit the son and Jesus are present.
2. John 17:5 "father now glorify me alongside you with the glory I had before the world was" Jesus existed alongside the father before the world was.
3. Philippians 2:6,7 Jesus existed in pre human form with the father.

It can't be that God is different modes, because obviously that's not the case.

Revelation 3:12
In that passage Jesus is already in heaven when he speaks these words, and he addresses the father as his god while already in heaven.

Also Revelation 1:18 jesus says he is alive forever.
 
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