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What are the major scientific errors in major religious scriptures?

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Please do not attempt to engage in a suitable conversation or discussion with JABAR.
Youll be wasting your time.
He's a 15 year old All-Hating Muslim troll with little or no intelligence outside the paper pages.
Plus it's already unlawful to actually be drawn in a loop of pointless and invalid points with a child (from a Hindu viewpoint)
Please ignore him.
Also, how does one ban someone from commenting on their thread?

His flawed logic and previous troll posts should have been enough for everyone to ignore him.
Again, if you are of sane mind, do NOT attempt any further conversation with him.
His religion is right, rest all are false and science and evidence as mounted by SHAITAN. But calls other religions wrong, Like a child who still poops and pees in bed but gets upset when the breeze blows a leaf to his bed.
We all know the scientific fallacies of the Quran or torture manual written for a false and war mongering desperate for attention, deity by genocidal men. It's the second grossest book in history. I'd rather read the satanic bible instead.


Hare Krishna.

Click the ignore button on his page and how should I block him from my threads?

Ughhh . . .

Why do you continuously hate on me? I never called their religions wrong ever. I said that the deity might be false and tampered with also their beliefs.

You are calling me a child who poops and pees in bed? Okay, i see how it is brother. I still have love for you, but you know you wanna get all technical.

You yourself is acting like a troll repeatedly stating these so call scientific fallacies when in fact they are scientific evidences to prove its divinity.

I would respectfully ask you to refrain from repeatedly insulting the Qur'an as you have in other threads.

Thank you!

:)
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
You have presented no points at all. And all your contradictions are resolved by directly reading the full texts you quoted mined and which I presented in full.
What is it in there that you find contradictory? Highlight the segments that you feel are contradictory so that I can understand, since nobody apart from you is able to find the contradiction.
The part where it talks about making idols, which today modernly is made.

Instead of just putting your interpretation, may you provide evidence that suggests that interpretation is in fact correct, or accurate to the meaning that is within the scripture.


Thanks.

:)
 

sayak83

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Sorry, bhavishya purana is not considered scripture by most schools. But I have no doubt (given the trends) that this too is a random quote mine. Apparently much of the purana was written in the 19th century, too late to prophesize Muhammad don't you think?

Wikipedia
The Bhavishya Purana (Bhaviṣya Purāṇa) is one of the eighteen major Puranas genre of Sanskrit literature in Hinduism.[1][2] The title Bhavishya means "future" and implies it is a work that contains prophecies regarding the future, however, the "prophecy" parts of the extant manuscripts are a modern era work.[3][4] Those sections of the surviving manuscripts that are dated to be older, are partly borrowed from other Indian texts such as Brihat Samhita and Shamba Purana.[3][5] The veracity and authenticity of much of the Bhavishya Purana has been questioned by modern scholarship, and the text is considered an example of "constant revisions and living nature" of Puranic genre of Hindu literature.[6][7]

The text exists in many inconsistent versions, wherein the content as well as their subdivisions vary, and five major versions are known.[4] Some manuscripts have four Parvan (parts), some two, others don't have any parts.[1][3] The text as it exists today is a composite of material ranging from medieval era to very recent. The available versions of Bhavishya Purana are based on a printed text published during the British colonial era.

The first 16 chapters of the first part of the Bhavisya Purana is called Brahmaparvan. It show similarities to, and likely borrowed verses from some version of the Manusmriti.[3][8] However, some of thecaste-related and women's rights related discussion in the Bhavishya Purana is egalitarian and challenge those found in the 19th-century published manuscripts of the Manusmriti.[9][10][11] The Brahmaparvan part of the Bhavishya Purana includes a 169 chapters compendium of Surya (Sun god) related literature, that overlaps with Zoroastrianism-related views.[5] This Sun-related sections are a notable and important part of the Bhavishya Purana, and it may be related to the migration or interaction between people of Persia and central Asia with those in Indian subcontinent.[12][13]

The second part of the text, called Madhyamaparvan, is a Tantra-related work.[6] The "prophecy"-related third part Pratisargaparvan includes sections on Christianity, Islam, Bhakti movement, Sikhism, British rule, and considered by scholars as a 19th-century creation.[14][5] The fourth part of the text called Uttaraparvan, is also known as Bhavishyottara Purana. This last part describes festivals related to various Hindu gods and goddesses and their Tithis (dates on lunar calendar), as well as mythology and a discussion of Dharma particularly vrata (vow) and dana (charity).[14][5] The text also has many Mahatmya chapters on geography, travel guide and pilgrimage to holy sites such as Uthiramerur,[15][16] and is one of the Tirtha-focussed Puranas.[17]
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
Please do not attempt to engage in a suitable conversation or discussion with JABAR.
Youll be wasting your time.
He's a 15 year old All-Hating Muslim troll with little or no intelligence outside the paper pages.
Plus it's already unlawful to actually be drawn in a loop of pointless and invalid points with a child (from a Hindu viewpoint)
Please ignore him.
Also, how does one ban someone from commenting on their thread?

His flawed logic and previous troll posts should have been enough for everyone to ignore him.
Again, if you are of sane mind, do NOT attempt any further conversation with him.
His religion is right, rest all are false and science and evidence as mounted by SHAITAN. But calls other religions wrong, Like a child who still poops and pees in bed but gets upset when the breeze blows a leaf to his bed.
We all know the scientific fallacies of the Quran or torture manual written for a false and war mongering desperate for attention, deity by genocidal men. It's the second grossest book in history. I'd rather read the satanic bible instead.


Hare Krishna.

Click the ignore button on his page and how should I block him from my threads?
I agree, but don't you think banning one from a thread is a bit much? His opinion matters, even if it's sub-par.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Sorry, bhavishya purana is not considered scripture by most schools. But I have no doubt (given the trends) that this too is a random quote mine. Apparently much of the purana was written in the 19th century, too late to prophesize Muhammad don't you think?

Wikipedia
That is what some of the scholars considered it to be from. I would agree they might be borrowed however they are not 19th century, thus jumping to conclusions based on a theory would not really be appropriate.

Anyhow, why not talk about the other Hindu scriptures that state the same?

Haha.

:)
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
I agree, but don't you think banning one from a thread is a bit much? His opinion matters, even if it's sub-par.

I would say your opinion is sub-par.

You still have not given me efficient proof from even your own scripture to confirm that it does not have inconsistencies.

However, you have the audacity to say that Brahman actually testified to mankind about the so called truth you speak of.

I have nothing against you, you are a brother of mine and i love you sincerely.

But when the opponent (you) made a false accusation and cannot prove otherwise it puts a little ignorance on your part, wouldn't you agree?

Peace.


:)
 

sayak83

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The part where it talks about making idols, which today modernly is made.

Instead of just putting your interpretation, may you provide evidence that suggests that interpretation is in fact correct, or accurate to the meaning that is within the scripture.


Thanks.

:)
Here are the verses:-

7:20:- Men whose knowledge has been carried away by these and those desires, resort to other Gods, Having recourse to this and that religious rite, Constrained by their own natures.
7:21:- Whoever desires to honor with belief whatever worshiped form, on him I bestow Immovable faith.,
7:22:- He, who, endowed with this faith, desires to worship that form, receives from it his desires because their fulfillment is decreed by Me.
7:23:- But temporary is their fruit for those of little understanding. To the Gods, the Godworshipers go; My worshipers come surely to Me.

Could you explain where the verses prohibit worshiping other Gods. In fact it clearly states that all wishes made to such Gods will be fulfilled. It is simply warning that material wishes (wealth, heaven etc.) are temporary and will exhaust eventually and does not lead to Supreme Realization that leads to freedom from rebirth.

4:9 He who knows in truth my divine birth and action, having left his body, he is not reborn. He comes to Me, Arjuna.

But Krishna emphhatically says that Vedic sacrifice and worship of Gods do bring about material success, and He has no issues with them,

4:11:- In whatever way, men take refuge in Me, I reward them. Men everywhere, Arjuna, follow My path.
4:12:- Desiring the success of ritual acts, Men perform Yajna here on earth to the Vedic Gods. Quickly indeed in the world of men do these ritual acts bring desired success.

I am sorry, but I am not seeing the place in Gita where Krishna prohibits or even worships other Gods. Please point out.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
He supposedly debated with some Vaishnavs about an issue then did this show about how the "Hare Krishna are contradictory" and when the Vaishnavs tried to contact him for a debate for clarification, he refused.

Haha.

Well, i mean that is his business.

Although, he is somewhat limited in knowledge.

He still has some knowledge on his part.

:)
 

sayak83

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Staff member
Premium Member
That is what some of the scholars considered it to be from. I would agree they might be borrowed however they are not 19th century, thus jumping to conclusions based on a theory would not really be appropriate.

Anyhow, why not talk about the other Hindu scriptures that state the same?

Haha.

:)

Pardon me if I do not consider your opinions of the dating of the Puranas too seriously. Change the wiki entry if you consider yourself an expert on the matter.
Please provide other scriptures that prophesize Muhammad. Hee hee
:)
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Here are the verses:-

7:20:- Men whose knowledge has been carried away by these and those desires, resort to other Gods, Having recourse to this and that religious rite, Constrained by their own natures.
7:21:- Whoever desires to honor with belief whatever worshiped form, on him I bestow Immovable faith.,
7:22:- He, who, endowed with this faith, desires to worship that form, receives from it his desires because their fulfillment is decreed by Me.
7:23:- But temporary is their fruit for those of little understanding. To the Gods, the Godworshipers go; My worshipers come surely to Me.

Could you explain where the verses prohibit worshiping other Gods. In fact it clearly states that all wishes made to such Gods will be fulfilled. It is simply warning that material wishes (wealth, heaven etc.) are temporary and will exhaust eventually and does not lead to Supreme Realization that leads to freedom from rebirth.

4:9 He who knows in truth my divine birth and action, having left his body, he is not reborn. He comes to Me, Arjuna.

But Krishna emphhatically says that Vedic sacrifice and worship of Gods do bring about material success, and He has no issues with them,

4:11:- In whatever way, men take refuge in Me, I reward them. Men everywhere, Arjuna, follow My path.
4:12:- Desiring the success of ritual acts, Men perform Yajna here on earth to the Vedic Gods. Quickly indeed in the world of men do these ritual acts bring desired success.

I am sorry, but I am not seeing the place in Gita where Krishna prohibits or even worships other Gods. Please point out.

Once again i am gonna say does this not put contradiction then?

Resorting to other Gods? Would a divine being be stupid enough to make a general term to all Gods? No.

I would agree other verses imply different things, but they still are clear contradictions.


Now can you get to the idols???


 

sayak83

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Once again i am gonna say does this not put contradiction then?

Resorting to other Gods? Would a divine being be stupid enough to make a general term to all Gods? No.

I would agree other verses imply different things, but they still are clear contradictions.


Now can you get to the idols???


I did not understand the question. Make it more clear.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Pardon me if I do not consider your opinions of the dating of the Puranas too seriously. Change the wiki entry if you consider yourself an expert on the matter.
Please provide other scriptures that prophesize Muhammad. Hee hee
:)

I believe you should refer to the link and read the whole thing.

In Samaveda, i believe there is a prophesizing of Prophet Muhammad.

:)
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
I agree, but don't you think banning one from a thread is a bit much? His opinion matters, even if it's sub-par.


Opinions and repeatedly coming infront, denying all the basic facts, then gets a monopoly on what Islamic God is and enforces tge idea on other faiths.
"If it's not Islam, it's false"... Is the prime idea of his discussions and he gives no opinions, at least not based on reasoning.
When having a discussion, if some one throws a mud pie on you and says "Youre discussion is wrong, discuss exactly like me", will you not call the police and have his *** thrown in jail.
From day one, he's trolling on every post.
He's a troll desperate for belittling other religions by denying the faults of his.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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Once again i am gonna say does this not put contradiction then?

Resorting to other Gods? Would a divine being be stupid enough to make a general term to all Gods? No.

I would agree other verses imply different things, but they still are clear contradictions.


Now can you get to the idols???

What's wrong with idols?
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
I did not understand the question. Make it more clear.

In the verse, it mentions that other Gods, why did it make that generalization. Why not explicitly said it in a different way?

You cannot just use your beliefs to interpret the scripture to what you like it fit.

He made a generalization to other gods. Why did he not just say what we made allowed and not?

If by a divine being you mean All-Knowing, i do not see how this little thing could be left out.
 
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