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What are the major scientific errors in major religious scriptures?

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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Premium Member
It says that those who worship natural elements, they sink to darkness.

Krishna is what?

:)
Krishna is not a natural element. He is the Lord, Narayana manifested. He was never born. He only appeared. Worshipping natural elements is like worshiping a jewel or some object that is not the Lord. Ever read the story of The Syamantaka Jewel?
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
Okay, Brahman.

It prohibits Idols, yet people create them.

Same way they create these forms for gods.

:)
An idol for Lord Vishnu, Krishna and Rama and their devotees fosters devotion. Bhakti. Glorious Bhakti! I know how different this is to you, but these form are worshiped for Love. Feeding Lord Krishna curd is a pastime any devotee will want to do. The images of the Lord are non-different to the Lord himself when a special ritual is performed. I have not seen it myself.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
Ignorance?

You twist your own scripture, when it itself prohibits idols and images.

That ignorance is on your part.

:)
Where does it say that it prohibits idols and images? In the Quran?
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
An idol for Lord Vishnu, Krishna and Rama and their devotees fosters devotion. Bhakti. Glorious Bhakti! I know how different this is to you, but these form are worshiped for Love. Feeding Lord Krishna curd is a pastime any devotee will want to do. The images of the Lord are non-different to the Lord himself when a special ritual is performed. I have not seen it myself.
It does not matter.

You are twisting the scriptures. Post hoc rationalization.

It explicitly prohibits it, but what are they doing?


Huh?

:)
 

Chakra

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Premium Member

    1. "na tasya pratima asti
      "There is no image of Him."
      [Yajurveda 32:3]5
    2. "shudhama poapvidham"
      "He is bodyless and pure."
      [Yajurveda 40:8]6
    3. "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
      "They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
      [Yajurveda 40:9]7

      Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.
    4. The Yajurveda contains the following prayer:
      "Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander."
      [Yajurveda 40:16]8 See brother
#1- No image of him simply means that he has no material form. Actually check the real translations done by real Sanskrit scholars.
#2- Pure is an obvious epithet of Brahman, and bodyless simply means that he does not have a material body like us. His body is made up of pure sattva (knowledge).
#3- Why don't you read the next couple of verses after this one?
#4- Nothing contradictory here.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Where does it say that it prohibits idols and images? In the Quran?
Brother in your own scriptures, haha.

"na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]5

2. "shudhama poapvidham"
"He is bodyless and pure."
[Yajurveda 40:8]6

3. "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink
deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
[Yajurveda 40:9]7

4. Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.


Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"

"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."


"Ekam evadvitiyam"
"He is One only without a second."
[Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1

2. "Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah."
"Of Him there are neither parents nor lord."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]2

3. "Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]3

Bagvadh Gita Ch.10 v.3
Those who know me as unborn and beginningless, and as the Supreme Lord of the universe, they among mortals are free from illusion and released from all evils.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
#1- No image of him simply means that he has no material form. Actually check the real translations done by real Sanskrit scholars.
#2- Pure is an obvious epithet of Brahman, and bodyless simply means that he does not have a material body like us. His body is made up of pure sattva (knowledge).
#3- Why don't you read the next couple of verses after this one?
#4- Nothing contradictory here.
So, now you talk about scholars?

Give me the translations brother and stop twisting your scripture.

:)
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
Brother in your own scriptures, haha.

"na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]5

2. "shudhama poapvidham"
"He is bodyless and pure."
[Yajurveda 40:8]6

3. "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink
deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
[Yajurveda 40:9]7

4. Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.


Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"

"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."


"Ekam evadvitiyam"
"He is One only without a second."
[Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1

2. "Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah."
"Of Him there are neither parents nor lord."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]2

3. "Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]3
Are you really convinced this refers to banning of images of the Lord? It does not say it prohibits images. It says there are no images of the Lord. He is formless.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
Our scriptures have no contradiction. We believe what it says. No twisting here. Dear Lord no.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Are you really convinced this refers to banning of images of the Lord? It does not say it prohibits images. It says there are no images of the Lord. He is formless.
Brother did you read it all? It says worship idols and images too.

I think not, it says there is no images either way, so why would you create an image when God says there is none?

Did he allow you to?

:)
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Our scriptures have no contradiction. We believe what it says. No twisting here. Dear Lord no.
You certainly do not if you are disobeying and believing in another god your own scripture.


I think you should have said Dear Lords, hehe.

You should see the debate between Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and Zakir Naik.

Shankar gets exposed.
:)
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
Brother did you read it all? It says worship idols and images too.

I think not, it says there is no images either way, so why would you create an image when God says there is none?

Did he allow you to?

:)
Because there are. Lord Krishna is a form. Lord Rama is a form. Lord Vishnu is a form. A flower is a form of the lord. A soothing pond is the form of the Lord. Happiness, joy, love.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
You certainly do not if you are disobeying and believing in another god your own scripture.


I think you should have said Dear Lords, hehe.

You should see the debate between Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and Zakir Naik.

Shankar gets exposed.
:)
What is their debate?
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Do tell. How does get get 'exposed'? My words can only speak for Vaishnavas.
He provides no arguments but basically makes excuses.

Hahaha, your words only speak for Vaishnavas?

:)
 
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