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What are the major scientific errors in major religious scriptures?

sayak83

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    1. "na tasya pratima asti
      "There is no image of Him."
      [Yajurveda 32:3]5
    2. "shudhama poapvidham"
      "He is bodyless and pure."
      [Yajurveda 40:8]6
    3. "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
      "They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
      [Yajurveda 40:9]7

      Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.
    4. The Yajurveda contains the following prayer:
      "Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander."
      [Yajurveda 40:16]8 See brother
More quote-mining I see. White Yajurveda 31 and 32 refers to the primordial Man (purusha) whose sacrificing created all the material world.
Griffith is a poor translator, but its free. Look for yourself. The verses you quote-mined are placed in their context. (Red colored). Moral of the story is stop learning about Hinduism from Islamic apologetic sites.

BOOK THE THIRTY-FIRST.

PURUSHA hath a thousand heads, a thousand eyes, a
thousand feet.
Pervading earth on every side he fills a space ten fingers
broad.
2 Purusha is in truth this All, what hath been and what yet
shall be;
Lord, too, of immortality which waxes greater still by food.
3 So mighty in his grandeur; yea, greater than this is Purusha.
All creatures are one fourth of him, three fourths eternal
life in heaven.
4 With three fourths Purusha rose up: one fourth of him
again was here.
Thence he moved forth to every side over what eats not
and what eats.
5 From him Virâj was born; again Purusha from Virâj was
born.
When born, he spread to west and east beyond the boundaries
of earth.
6 From that great General Sacrifice the dripping fat was
gathered up.
He formed the creatures of the air and animals both wild
and tame.
7 From that great General Sacrifice Richas and Sâma hymns
were born:
Therefrom were spells and charms produced; the Yajus
had its birth from it.
8 From it were horses born, from it all cattle with two rows
of teeth
From it were generated kine, from it were goats and sheep
produced.
9 They balmed as victim on the grass Purusha born in earliest
time.
With him the Deities and all Sâdhyas and Rishis sacrificed.
10 When they divided Purusha how many portions did they
make?
What was his mouth? what were his arms? what are the
names of thighs and feet?
11 The Brâhman was his mouth, of both his arms was the
Râjanya made.
His thighs became the Vaisya, from his feet the Sûdra was
produced.
12 The Moon was gendered from his mind, and from his eye
the Sun had birth;
Vâyu and Prâna from his ear, and from his mouth was Agni
born.
13 Forth from his navel came mid-air; the sky was fashioned
from his head;
Earth from his feet, and from his ear the Quarters. Thus
they formed the worlds.
14 When Gods performed the sacrifice with Purusha as offering
Spring was the butter, Autumn the oblation, Summer was
the wood.
15 Then seven were his enclosing-sticks, his kindling-brands
were three times seven,
When Gods, performing sacrifice, bound as their victim
Purusha.
16 Gods, sacrificing, sacrificed the victim: these were the earliest
holy ordinances.
The Mighty Ones attained the height of heaven, there where
the Sâdhyas, Gods of old, are dwelling.
17 In the beginning he was formed, collected from waters, earth,
and Visvakarman's essence.
Fixing the form thereof Tvashtar proceedeth. This was at
first the mortal's birth and godhead.
18 I know this mighty Purusha whose colour is like the Sun,
beyond the reach of darkness.
He only who knows him leaves Death behind him. There is
no path save this alone to travel.
19 In the womb moves Prajâpati: he, never becoming born, is
born in sundry figures.
The wise discern the womb from which he springeth. In
him alone stand all existing creatures.
20 He who gives light and heat to Gods, first, foremost Agent
of the Gods,
Born ere the Gods—to him the bright, the holy One, be
reverence
21 Thus spake the Gods at first, as they begat the bright and
holy One:
The Brahman who may know thee thus shall have the Gods
in his control.
22 Beauty and Fortune are thy wives: each side of thee are
Day and Night.
The constellations are thy form: the Asvins are thine open
jaws.
Wishing, wish yonder world for me, wish that the Universe
be mine.

BOOK THE THIRTY-SECOND.
AGNI is That; the Sun is That; Vâyu and Chandramâs are
That.
The Bright is That; Brahma is That, those Waters, that
Prajâpati.
2 All twinklings of the eyelid sprang from Purusha,
resplendent One.
No one hath comprehended him above, across, or in the
midst.
3 There is no counterpart of him whose glory verily is great.
In the beginning rose Hiranyagarbha, etc. Let not him
harm me, etc. Than whom there is no other born, etc.

4 This very God pervadeth all the regions; yea, born aforetime,
in the womb he dwelleth.
He verily born and to be born hereafter meeteth his offspring,
facing all directions.
5 Before whom naught whatever sprang to being; who with
his presence aids all living creatures,
Prajâpati, rejoicing in his offspring, he, Shodasî, maintains
the Three great Lustres.
6 By whom the heavens are strong and earth stands firmly,
by whom light's realm and sky-vault are supported;
By whom the regions in mid-air were measured. What
God shall we adore with our oblation?
7 To whom, supported by his help, two armies embattled look
while trembling in their spirit,
Where over them the risen Sun is shining. What God shall
we adore with our oblation?
What time the mighty waters, etc. He in his might surveyed, etc.
8 The Sage beholdeth That mysterious Being wherein this
All hath found one only dwelling.
Therein unites the Whole, and thence it issues: far-spread it
is the warp and woof in creatures.
9 Knowing Eternity, may the Gandharva declare that station,
parted, kept in secret.
Three steps thereof in mystery are hidden: he who knows
these shall be the father's father.
10 He is our kin, our Father and Begetter: he knows all beings
and all Ordinances,
In whom the Gods obtaining life eternal have risen upward
to the third high station.
11 Having encompassed round existing creatures, the world;
and all the Quarters and Mid-quarters,
Having approached the first-born Child of Order he with his
Self into The Self hath entered.
12 Having gone swiftly round the earth and heaven, around
the worlds, around the sky, the Quarters,
Having spread out the lengthened thread of Order, he views,
and he becomes and is That Being.
13 To the Assembly's wondrous Lord, to Indra's lovely Friend
who gives
Wisdom. have I drawn near in prayer.
14 That wisdom which the Companies of Gods, and Fathers,
recognize,
Even with that intelligence, O Agni, make me wise to-day.
All-hail!
15 Varuna grant me wisdom! grant it Agni and Prajâpati!
Wisdom may Indra, Vâyu grant. May the Creator grant it
me. All-hail!
16 Let these the Priests and Nobles both enjoy the splendour
that is mine.
Best splendour may the Gods bestow on me. To thee, that
splendour, hail!
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Your next attempt is even worse. Yajurveda 40 is talking (again) of seeing the all-pervading Self as the root within all things and that balancing the knowledge of the manifest/formed/created (sambhuti) and the unmanifest/unformed/incipient (asambhuti) is the way to liberation. What Yajurveda 40 is saying is that neither positivism or annihilationism is conducive to knowledge.

BOOK THE FORTIETH.
ENVELOPED by the Lord must be This All—each thing that
moves on earth.
With that renounced enjoy thyself. Covet no wealth of
any man.
2 One, only doing Karma here, should wish to live a hundred
years.
No way is there for thee but this. So Karma cleaveth not
to man.
3 Aye, to the Asuras belong those worlds enwrapt in blinding
gloom.
To them, when life on earth is done, depart the men who
kill the Self.


4 Motionless, one, swifter than Mind—the Devas failed to
o’ertake it speeding on before them.
It, standing still, outstrips the others running. Herein Both
Mâtarisvan stablish Action.
5 It moveth; it is motionless. It is far distant; it is near.
It is within This All; and it surrounds This All externally.
6 The man who in his Self beholds all creatures and all things
that be,
And in all beings sees his Self, thence doubts no longer,
ponders not.
7 When, in the man who clearly knows, Self hath become all
things that are,
What wilderment, what grief is there in him who sees the
One alone?

8 He hath attained unto the Bright, Bodiless, Woundless,
Sinewless, the Pure which evil hath not pierced.
Far-sighted, wise, encompassing, he self-existent hath
prescribed aims, as propriety demands, unto the
everlasting Years.

9 Deep into shade of blinding gloom fall Asambhûti's
worshippers.
They sink to darkness deeper yet who on Sambhûti are
intent.
10 One fruit, they say, from Sambhava, another from Asambhava.
Thus from the sages have we heard who have declared this
lore to us.
11 The man who knows Sambhûti and Vinâsa simultaneously,
He, by Vinâsa passing death, gains by Sambhûti endless life.


12 To blinding darkness go the men who make a cult of
Nescience.
The devotees of Science enter darkness that is darker still.
13 Different is the fruit, they say, of Science and of Nescience.
Thus from the sages have we heard who have declared this
lore to us.
14 The man who knoweth well these two, Science and Nescience,
combined,
O’ercoming death by Nescience by Science gaineth endless
life.

15 My breath reach everlasting Air! In ashes let my body end.
OM! Mind, remember thou; remember thou my sphere;
remember thou my deeds.
16 By goodly path lead us to riches, Agni, thou God who
knowest all our works and wisdom.
Remove the sin that makes us stray and wander: most
ample adoration will we bring thee.

17 The Real's face is hidden by a vessel formed of golden light.
The Spirit yonder in the Sun, the Spirit dwelling there am I.
OM! Heaven! Brahma!

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your quote-mining has been very badly exposed. Now I will ask the readers to refer back to the verses of the Gita I quoted and you will see that they are fully consistent with Yajurveda 40.

Now what?
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
Watch it brother, it is funny and fun.

He talks about love and sincerity.

I am not callous, i love you brother.

:)
I watched it. That man is an idiot. The Vedas refer to Brahman. The impersonal aspect of the Lord. Lord Krishna is Bhagavan, the personal aspect of the Lord. Oh my that video makes my head hurt.
 

निताइ dasa

Nitai's servant's servant
You certainly do not if you are disobeying and believing in another god your own scripture.


I think you should have said Dear Lords, hehe.

You should see the debate between Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and Zakir Naik.

Shankar gets exposed.
:)

Ravi Shankar is a class one fraud sometimes seriously....he speaks so vaguely about everything, nor does he come from any traditional school of Hinduism. As the Zakir Naik, I have a few things to say about him (not all of them would be appropriate for a Vaishnav).

Anyway, your points are interesting, I will get back to replying to them later today. Sayakji has already replied quite well.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
I watched it. That man is an idiot. The Vedas refer to Brahman. The impersonal aspect of the Lord. Lord Krishna is Bhagavan, the personal aspect of the Lord. Oh my that video makes my head hurt.

I do not think you should call someone who i believe has more intellect than you an idiot.

Just because your interpretation is Brahman.

Haha.

:)
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Ravi Shankar is a class one fraud sometimes seriously....he speaks so vaguely about everything, nor does he come from any traditional school of Hinduism. As the Zakir Naik, I have a few things to say about him (not all of them would be appropriate for a Vaishnav).

Anyway, your points are interesting, I will get back to replying to them later today. Sayakji has already replied quite well.
Haha.

Thanks, but i do not think he replied well, xd.

:)
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
I watched it. That man is an idiot. The Vedas refer to Brahman. The impersonal aspect of the Lord. Lord Krishna is Bhagavan, the personal aspect of the Lord. Oh my that video makes my head hurt.
You know Muhammad is prophesized in the Hindu scriptures.

If he is, then all your concepts are false, and that the truth behind the scriptures is the same as the teaching of Muhammad who follows the Qur'an.


:)
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
You know Muhammad is prophesized in the Hindu scriptures.

If he is, then all your concepts are false, and that the truth behind the scriptures is the same as the teaching of Muhammad who follows the Qur'an.


:)
Oh? Do tell. I have a knack for feeding the flames.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
More quote-mining I see. White Yajurveda 31 and 32 refers to the primordial Man (purusha) whose sacrificing created all the material world.
Griffith is a poor translator, but its free. Look for yourself. The verses you quote-mined are placed in their context. (Red colored). Moral of the story is stop learning about Hinduism from Islamic apologetic sites.

BOOK THE THIRTY-FIRST.

PURUSHA hath a thousand heads, a thousand eyes, a
thousand feet.
Pervading earth on every side he fills a space ten fingers
broad.
2 Purusha is in truth this All, what hath been and what yet
shall be;
Lord, too, of immortality which waxes greater still by food.
3 So mighty in his grandeur; yea, greater than this is Purusha.
All creatures are one fourth of him, three fourths eternal
life in heaven.
4 With three fourths Purusha rose up: one fourth of him
again was here.
Thence he moved forth to every side over what eats not
and what eats.
5 From him Virâj was born; again Purusha from Virâj was
born.
When born, he spread to west and east beyond the boundaries
of earth.
6 From that great General Sacrifice the dripping fat was
gathered up.
He formed the creatures of the air and animals both wild
and tame.
7 From that great General Sacrifice Richas and Sâma hymns
were born:
Therefrom were spells and charms produced; the Yajus
had its birth from it.
8 From it were horses born, from it all cattle with two rows
of teeth
From it were generated kine, from it were goats and sheep
produced.
9 They balmed as victim on the grass Purusha born in earliest
time.
With him the Deities and all Sâdhyas and Rishis sacrificed.
10 When they divided Purusha how many portions did they
make?
What was his mouth? what were his arms? what are the
names of thighs and feet?
11 The Brâhman was his mouth, of both his arms was the
Râjanya made.
His thighs became the Vaisya, from his feet the Sûdra was
produced.
12 The Moon was gendered from his mind, and from his eye
the Sun had birth;
Vâyu and Prâna from his ear, and from his mouth was Agni
born.
13 Forth from his navel came mid-air; the sky was fashioned
from his head;
Earth from his feet, and from his ear the Quarters. Thus
they formed the worlds.
14 When Gods performed the sacrifice with Purusha as offering
Spring was the butter, Autumn the oblation, Summer was
the wood.
15 Then seven were his enclosing-sticks, his kindling-brands
were three times seven,
When Gods, performing sacrifice, bound as their victim
Purusha.
16 Gods, sacrificing, sacrificed the victim: these were the earliest
holy ordinances.
The Mighty Ones attained the height of heaven, there where
the Sâdhyas, Gods of old, are dwelling.
17 In the beginning he was formed, collected from waters, earth,
and Visvakarman's essence.
Fixing the form thereof Tvashtar proceedeth. This was at
first the mortal's birth and godhead.
18 I know this mighty Purusha whose colour is like the Sun,
beyond the reach of darkness.
He only who knows him leaves Death behind him. There is
no path save this alone to travel.
19 In the womb moves Prajâpati: he, never becoming born, is
born in sundry figures.
The wise discern the womb from which he springeth. In
him alone stand all existing creatures.
20 He who gives light and heat to Gods, first, foremost Agent
of the Gods,
Born ere the Gods—to him the bright, the holy One, be
reverence
21 Thus spake the Gods at first, as they begat the bright and
holy One:
The Brahman who may know thee thus shall have the Gods
in his control.
22 Beauty and Fortune are thy wives: each side of thee are
Day and Night.
The constellations are thy form: the Asvins are thine open
jaws.
Wishing, wish yonder world for me, wish that the Universe
be mine.

BOOK THE THIRTY-SECOND.
AGNI is That; the Sun is That; Vâyu and Chandramâs are
That.
The Bright is That; Brahma is That, those Waters, that
Prajâpati.
2 All twinklings of the eyelid sprang from Purusha,
resplendent One.
No one hath comprehended him above, across, or in the
midst.
3 There is no counterpart of him whose glory verily is great.
In the beginning rose Hiranyagarbha, etc. Let not him
harm me, etc. Than whom there is no other born, etc.

4 This very God pervadeth all the regions; yea, born aforetime,
in the womb he dwelleth.
He verily born and to be born hereafter meeteth his offspring,
facing all directions.
5 Before whom naught whatever sprang to being; who with
his presence aids all living creatures,
Prajâpati, rejoicing in his offspring, he, Shodasî, maintains
the Three great Lustres.
6 By whom the heavens are strong and earth stands firmly,
by whom light's realm and sky-vault are supported;
By whom the regions in mid-air were measured. What
God shall we adore with our oblation?
7 To whom, supported by his help, two armies embattled look
while trembling in their spirit,
Where over them the risen Sun is shining. What God shall
we adore with our oblation?
What time the mighty waters, etc. He in his might surveyed, etc.
8 The Sage beholdeth That mysterious Being wherein this
All hath found one only dwelling.
Therein unites the Whole, and thence it issues: far-spread it
is the warp and woof in creatures.
9 Knowing Eternity, may the Gandharva declare that station,
parted, kept in secret.
Three steps thereof in mystery are hidden: he who knows
these shall be the father's father.
10 He is our kin, our Father and Begetter: he knows all beings
and all Ordinances,
In whom the Gods obtaining life eternal have risen upward
to the third high station.
11 Having encompassed round existing creatures, the world;
and all the Quarters and Mid-quarters,
Having approached the first-born Child of Order he with his
Self into The Self hath entered.
12 Having gone swiftly round the earth and heaven, around
the worlds, around the sky, the Quarters,
Having spread out the lengthened thread of Order, he views,
and he becomes and is That Being.
13 To the Assembly's wondrous Lord, to Indra's lovely Friend
who gives
Wisdom. have I drawn near in prayer.
14 That wisdom which the Companies of Gods, and Fathers,
recognize,
Even with that intelligence, O Agni, make me wise to-day.
All-hail!
15 Varuna grant me wisdom! grant it Agni and Prajâpati!
Wisdom may Indra, Vâyu grant. May the Creator grant it
me. All-hail!
16 Let these the Priests and Nobles both enjoy the splendour
that is mine.
Best splendour may the Gods bestow on me. To thee, that
splendour, hail!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your next attempt is even worse. Yajurveda 40 is talking (again) of seeing the all-pervading Self as the root within all things and that balancing the knowledge of the manifest/formed/created (sambhuti) and the unmanifest/unformed/incipient (asambhuti) is the way to liberation. What Yajurveda 40 is saying is that neither positivism or annihilationism is conducive to knowledge.

BOOK THE FORTIETH.
ENVELOPED by the Lord must be This All—each thing that
moves on earth.
With that renounced enjoy thyself. Covet no wealth of
any man.
2 One, only doing Karma here, should wish to live a hundred
years.
No way is there for thee but this. So Karma cleaveth not
to man.
3 Aye, to the Asuras belong those worlds enwrapt in blinding
gloom.
To them, when life on earth is done, depart the men who
kill the Self.


4 Motionless, one, swifter than Mind—the Devas failed to
o’ertake it speeding on before them.
It, standing still, outstrips the others running. Herein Both
Mâtarisvan stablish Action.
5 It moveth; it is motionless. It is far distant; it is near.
It is within This All; and it surrounds This All externally.
6 The man who in his Self beholds all creatures and all things
that be,
And in all beings sees his Self, thence doubts no longer,
ponders not.
7 When, in the man who clearly knows, Self hath become all
things that are,
What wilderment, what grief is there in him who sees the
One alone?

8 He hath attained unto the Bright, Bodiless, Woundless,
Sinewless, the Pure which evil hath not pierced.
Far-sighted, wise, encompassing, he self-existent hath
prescribed aims, as propriety demands, unto the
everlasting Years.

9 Deep into shade of blinding gloom fall Asambhûti's
worshippers.
They sink to darkness deeper yet who on Sambhûti are
intent.
10 One fruit, they say, from Sambhava, another from Asambhava.
Thus from the sages have we heard who have declared this
lore to us.
11 The man who knows Sambhûti and Vinâsa simultaneously,
He, by Vinâsa passing death, gains by Sambhûti endless life.


12 To blinding darkness go the men who make a cult of
Nescience.
The devotees of Science enter darkness that is darker still.
13 Different is the fruit, they say, of Science and of Nescience.
Thus from the sages have we heard who have declared this
lore to us.
14 The man who knoweth well these two, Science and Nescience,
combined,
O’ercoming death by Nescience by Science gaineth endless
life.

15 My breath reach everlasting Air! In ashes let my body end.
OM! Mind, remember thou; remember thou my sphere;
remember thou my deeds.
16 By goodly path lead us to riches, Agni, thou God who
knowest all our works and wisdom.
Remove the sin that makes us stray and wander: most
ample adoration will we bring thee.

17 The Real's face is hidden by a vessel formed of golden light.
The Spirit yonder in the Sun, the Spirit dwelling there am I.
OM! Heaven! Brahma!

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your quote-mining has been very badly exposed. Now I will ask the readers to refer back to the verses of the Gita I quoted and you will see that they are fully consistent with Yajurveda 40.

Now what?

This still puts contradiction.

You did not respond to my idols point.

Therefore, i believe you are still giving exposure to your own self, haha.

:)

The readers do not matter, it is what the scripture is truly saying and that is not what you are saying.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Ravi Shankar is a class one fraud sometimes seriously....he speaks so vaguely about everything, nor does he come from any traditional school of Hinduism. As the Zakir Naik, I have a few things to say about him (not all of them would be appropriate for a Vaishnav).

Anyway, your points are interesting, I will get back to replying to them later today. Sayakji has already replied quite well.

If Lakshmi is the goddess of wealth and prosperity, why are the Hindus so poor? haha

Btw, how are these so called gods killing other gods, does that not sound illogical to you?

Why would gods kill other gods, are they not compassionate and caring?

No offense at all, but all the Hindu gods look like humans. Some like elephants, some with like thousands of heads, hands, and more. It is logical that it must have been a man-made religion.


:)
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
If Lakshmi is the goddess of wealth and prosperity, why are the Hindus so poor? haha

Btw, how are these so called gods killing other gods, does that not sound illogical to you?

Why would gods kill other gods, are they not compassionate and caring?

No offense at all, but all the Hindu gods look like humans. Some like elephants, some with like thousands of heads, hands, and more. It is logical that it must have been a man-made religion.


:)
They are devas. Demi-gods.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
They are devas. Demi-gods.
Why does Brahman not just come and tell everyone it is the true faith and show his divinity?

Btw, i believe they are not demi-gods until you can prove to me how.
:)
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
He has. Many times. I don't wish to debate you any more.
He has?

Haha, the exposure given to you is on a high level is that the reason you quit?

When has he?

I do not recall a random Brahman coming and testifying.

You made a false accusation.

:)
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Please do not attempt to engage in a suitable conversation or discussion with JABAR.
Youll be wasting your time.
He's a 15 year old All-Hating Muslim troll with little or no intelligence outside the paper pages.
Plus it's already unlawful to actually be drawn in a loop of pointless and invalid points with a child (from a Hindu viewpoint)
Please ignore him.
Also, how does one ban someone from commenting on their thread?

His flawed logic and previous troll posts should have been enough for everyone to ignore him.
Again, if you are of sane mind, do NOT attempt any further conversation with him.
His religion is right, rest all are false and science and evidence as mounted by SHAITAN. But calls other religions wrong, Like a child who still poops and pees in bed but gets upset when the breeze blows a leaf to his bed.
We all know the scientific fallacies of the Quran or torture manual written for a false and war mongering desperate for attention, deity by genocidal men. It's the second grossest book in history. I'd rather read the satanic bible instead.


Hare Krishna.

Click the ignore button on his page and how should I block him from my threads?
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
This still puts contradiction.

You did not respond to my idols point.

Therefore, i believe you are still giving exposure to your own self, haha.

:)

The readers do not matter, it is what the scripture is truly saying and that is not what you are saying.
You have presented no points at all. And all your contradictions are resolved by directly reading the full texts you quoted mined and which I presented in full.
What is it in there that you find contradictory? Highlight the segments that you feel are contradictory so that I can understand, since nobody apart from you is able to find the contradiction.
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
You have presented no points at all. And all your contradictions are resolved by directly reading the full texts you quoted mined and which I presented in full.
What is it in there that you find contradictory? Highlight the segments that you feel are contradictory so that I can understand, since nobody apart from you is able to find the contradiction.


Leave it. He's here to troll anyway.
He'll never accept any facts. So, you'll have a better luck teaching the alphabets to a plant.
 
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