psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yea your right, it will take another big disaster like 911, to wake everyone up, and then it will go all around in circles again until something else happens.
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
ISIS Enshrines a Theology of Rape
- Thread starter dust1n
- Start date
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
That's right
Every Muslim wants to return the Islamic Caliphate
And that the law is the Koran and the words of God
This is what is happening now in Mosul
This is what happened in Afghanistan
And also in Turkey
Muslims are trying to spread in the world also
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
This is not a criticism
The fact that women in Islamic law
And there are no women in the Koran are considered synonyms for turd
Translator and the Koran is trying to Aotaim this sense
And I will write verse in the Arab language) ( ان كنتم على غائط او لامستم النساء )
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
this is the problem
When you say that the commander of a Muslim and this means that it applies the Islamic law
When applying Islamic law
Calamities be clear
Islam is the Koran
The Koran is the states
And all states fighting
And every Muslim leader believes in these verses
I hope that my idea clear
9/11 didn't really wake anyone up.
It just led to rash behavior.
A couple trillion dollars later, our initial illusion that Iraqis would welcome us as liberators is long dead.
If we attacked ISIS to utterly destroy them, it is unlikely that it would turn out as we now envision.
War is a very costly, deadly & unpredictable business.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I agree with your sentiment, but I also think that we have a responsibility to protect our citizens at home. We have to take out any group that is planning attacks on American (or our allies) soil. If they are just minding their own business in their own country, I would say we should leave them be. But, they are trying to terrorize us at home (and our allies homes). We can't just sit back with these guys.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I think I get your point, but, if this is true, doesn't this fuel the conception that Islam is a dangerous force in the world? I mean, whenever people are moved to violence due to religious beliefs, we need to act.
I agree about protecting ourselves.
But there are better ways than launching a war against foreign entities we detest.
Our record of doing just that is abysmal.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I'm not saying that we should start a ground war. We should do as much as possible in secret and under the radar to avoid civilian casualties. If we ever did start a full-out ground war, the psychopathic ISIS db's will, most likely, take hostages from their own civilian populations and torture them on live TV.
Our covert efforts have an equally dismal record.
We're still reaping the 'rewards' of our disastrous covert meddling in Iran,
which resulted in the creation of an enemy, & the deaths of a million Iranians.
Even the much vaunted "surgical strike" can easily go awry & lead to war.
Sure, sure....such measures can work.
But do you trust our current & upcoming leaders to exercise better judgement
then their predecessors? I don't.
Mitch M
Member
War is horrible. But when You have overwhelming groups and nations of people around You who are trying to eXterminate You.
You must eXterminate them or no longer eXist. I believe that is the Message of the bible.
The jEWS seen that Virgin Young women could be spared and they could take them into their Hebrew Kingdom and make them wifes and Love and respect them. To Rape them or Sell them for seX, Would be against the Law of God. Loving them, respecting and caring for them and making them a wife with open arms and freedom. To all virgin Women of the Enemy - who would accept.
The Young Males of Your enemy is not something that You wish to Adopt. nor do You want to turn them Loose, Just so they can Grow up and attack Your children tomorrow.
Remember the Hebrews did not have Thousands and Thousands of Miles and miles of ocean and land to separate them from their Enemy. So they could not Just defeat them in a war and sent them running or sailing off thousands of Miles away.
These enemies were their Neighbors. The Group of Homes down the Block who are committed to exterminate You and Your Family forever. They Raise their Kids and train them to Kill you and to terrorize You forever. until You are Gone. Dead.
The Canaanite tribes were trying to terrorize and exterminate the Hebrews. Allowing the CHILDREN to LIVE, would Give the Other tribes more warriors to attack Your Child tomorrow.
Until You are attacked and a victim of genocide. You will never understand what it takes to stop all these people who surround You from Killing You, Generation after Generation. I believe that God Knew that and the History of the Bible proved thus to be the FACT.
You must eXterminate them or no longer eXist. I believe that is the Message of the bible.
The jEWS seen that Virgin Young women could be spared and they could take them into their Hebrew Kingdom and make them wifes and Love and respect them. To Rape them or Sell them for seX, Would be against the Law of God. Loving them, respecting and caring for them and making them a wife with open arms and freedom. To all virgin Women of the Enemy - who would accept.
The Young Males of Your enemy is not something that You wish to Adopt. nor do You want to turn them Loose, Just so they can Grow up and attack Your children tomorrow.
Remember the Hebrews did not have Thousands and Thousands of Miles and miles of ocean and land to separate them from their Enemy. So they could not Just defeat them in a war and sent them running or sailing off thousands of Miles away.
These enemies were their Neighbors. The Group of Homes down the Block who are committed to exterminate You and Your Family forever. They Raise their Kids and train them to Kill you and to terrorize You forever. until You are Gone. Dead.
The Canaanite tribes were trying to terrorize and exterminate the Hebrews. Allowing the CHILDREN to LIVE, would Give the Other tribes more warriors to attack Your Child tomorrow.
Until You are attacked and a victim of genocide. You will never understand what it takes to stop all these people who surround You from Killing You, Generation after Generation. I believe that God Knew that and the History of the Bible proved thus to be the FACT.
Last edited:
leibowde84
Veteran Member
This is crazy. If you get the children (hypothetically of course), it would be easy to teach them the truth. The main problem is lack of access to information for the youth in these countries. They don't remember when we saved them from the Soviets and they get indoctrinated that the west actually cares what they believe. In truth, the west only cares about the violence committed in the name of what they believe.
Mitch M
Member
I agree with You somewhat. it seems so Cruel. = But the bible offers a valid Historical explanation to WHY The Hebrews were to wipe out these Amalekites and the Midianites.
if You will notice the Amalekites and the Midianites were Leading the Charge and pushing for the other Canaanite Nations to join them in, eXterminating the Hebrews.
The Hebrews did not do this to all of their Enemies. ONLY - the Leading, POWERFUL nations such as the Amalekites and the Midianites . Who were constantly attacking them, with the committed intent - of exterminating them and wiping them OUT .
Other than the case of the Amalekites and the Midianites. Never did the jEWS - kill the Woman and Children in War. It was not something that they did to all their enemies.
You have to READ the Full Story. The USA has Killed millions of civilians in War. Targeting Factories, Plants, Schools and Buildings that are potential weapons stockpiles. Destroying their Civilization, until they STOP Attacking You.
Sadly and Tearfully - The Fact is - Killing Women and Children is a part of every single REAL - Full Scale War.
Where Your Enemies are - Pre Determined and Planned OUT to Eleminate You and Bring Your destruction. It happens in every REAL war
if You will notice the Amalekites and the Midianites were Leading the Charge and pushing for the other Canaanite Nations to join them in, eXterminating the Hebrews.
The Hebrews did not do this to all of their Enemies. ONLY - the Leading, POWERFUL nations such as the Amalekites and the Midianites . Who were constantly attacking them, with the committed intent - of exterminating them and wiping them OUT .
Other than the case of the Amalekites and the Midianites. Never did the jEWS - kill the Woman and Children in War. It was not something that they did to all their enemies.
You have to READ the Full Story. The USA has Killed millions of civilians in War. Targeting Factories, Plants, Schools and Buildings that are potential weapons stockpiles. Destroying their Civilization, until they STOP Attacking You.
Sadly and Tearfully - The Fact is - Killing Women and Children is a part of every single REAL - Full Scale War.
Where Your Enemies are - Pre Determined and Planned OUT to Eleminate You and Bring Your destruction. It happens in every REAL war
dust1n
Zindīq
If you aren't criticizing Islam, than I do not understand the point you are trying to get across.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Uh ... Where is the explanation for having to kill the children? I didn't make claims about anything else.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
If you kill the children's parents, who is going to teach them to hate you? Beliefs aren't genetic.
Mitch M
Member
It was not in the best Interest of the Hebrews - to Adopt and Educate these Young Males of the Amalekites and the Midianites. Perhaps these MALES had Genetic problems and Mental problems - that were a potential danger to the Hebrews.
it is a possibility that they were partly INSANE or genetically Deformed in mental Stability.
You bring up a Good point though - We don't Know that - HOWEVER .
The jews did not wish to release them into the hands of their Enemies, to make the Warrior Class of their enemies larger and more powerful. And the fact that the Amalekites and the Midianites were Determined to eXterminate the Jews and ROUSE up the Other Canaanites to do the Same. Caused the jEWS to find it best to destroy their entire tribe, Forever.
it sounds Horrible. But place yourself in that Place in Time. Surrounded by Overwhelming and More Powerful Enemies who Outnumber You. Wiping out the Amalekites and the Midianites Who were SWORN and totally committed - to eXterminate Your Family and People would be - the ONLY, Sole chance - for Eternal Survival.
AND - it Worked. A successful choice. = The jEWS are still alive and they made the Best Choice and took the Amalekites and the Midianites and removed their Seed forever. The ISHMAELITES and EDOMITES are another eXample of Gods eXtermination of His enemies, Who Continually Attacked and terrorized the Jews.
There are no Ishmaelites left. Perhaps this makes you Sad. ?
it is a possibility that they were partly INSANE or genetically Deformed in mental Stability.
You bring up a Good point though - We don't Know that - HOWEVER .
The jews did not wish to release them into the hands of their Enemies, to make the Warrior Class of their enemies larger and more powerful. And the fact that the Amalekites and the Midianites were Determined to eXterminate the Jews and ROUSE up the Other Canaanites to do the Same. Caused the jEWS to find it best to destroy their entire tribe, Forever.
it sounds Horrible. But place yourself in that Place in Time. Surrounded by Overwhelming and More Powerful Enemies who Outnumber You. Wiping out the Amalekites and the Midianites Who were SWORN and totally committed - to eXterminate Your Family and People would be - the ONLY, Sole chance - for Eternal Survival.
AND - it Worked. A successful choice. = The jEWS are still alive and they made the Best Choice and took the Amalekites and the Midianites and removed their Seed forever. The ISHMAELITES and EDOMITES are another eXample of Gods eXtermination of His enemies, Who Continually Attacked and terrorized the Jews.
There are no Ishmaelites left. Perhaps this makes you Sad. ?
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yea your right, but as I said it will go around in circles again, as it has for thousands of years, its just human nature I suppose ?.
Mitch M
Member
It is interesting how that people insist that Woman and children are not part of the fighting Force of Your enemy. Women and Children of the Amalekites and the Midianites, were the Source and center and fountain of War.
women and children are in fact a part of the force that continues and enables Your enemy to continue fighting. the Young Children Grow up to Fight Your Children tomorrow and the women Make / produce more Children who will increase the Number of Your enemy.
the Amalekites and the Midianites were a WAR Society who initiated and continually led and promoted - an eternal savage, violent, Terror attack upon the jEWS.
The Woman and children are always busy behind the Lines. producing weapons and Clothing, Preparing Camps, Food, Vegetables. Medical Packs. Water packs and Woman and Children are used as Spys and Scouts and messengers.
Strengthening and MAKING and enabling the War effort. Once You stop the base of Your Enemy by Removing their Food, Crops, Suppliers and Strength. You can defend Yourself against other enemies. You forget that the jews were outnumbered, Out Manned and surrounded by Your Buddies.
My uncle was in Vietnam = Women and Children were sent out loaded with Bombs and carried Guns and Chemicals and Food, And medical Supplies and Clothing and MESSAGES. Terrorists use Women and Children to Fight their Wars.
My uncle had to kill women and children who came at Him with Bombs and Guns. They are a part of every FIGHTING Force on the planet. After the War, My uncle would wake up Crying and Screaming, Shaking and Hurting his Pillow Soaked in Tears and His body sweaty and Clenched. Because he still seen the images of little Children and women that were Killed. He wanted to Go back and save them in his Dreams. They were used to fight in many battles.
But War is not about YOUR Childish Fantasy and Dreams.
My Great uncles were in WW ll. They Bombed Factories, Schools used to Disguise and Hide and stock weapons and plans of enemy operations, Power Plants, Food Stores and Crops and water supplies. Clothing and War tools that the Woman and Children were Helping to keep the Germans and Italians stocked in Conducting their war against the USA. My Grandfather Was in Italy, Bombing many, many Catholic Churches that the Italians and Nazis used to Hide and Disguise their War Efforts.
Please Wake up and Come back to Reality.
The USA has Killed more women and Children in war , that the jEWS could even imagine. Women and children their Homes and Presence - are Used to Build the War effort in a greater way than You ever thought.
women and children are in fact a part of the force that continues and enables Your enemy to continue fighting. the Young Children Grow up to Fight Your Children tomorrow and the women Make / produce more Children who will increase the Number of Your enemy.
the Amalekites and the Midianites were a WAR Society who initiated and continually led and promoted - an eternal savage, violent, Terror attack upon the jEWS.
The Woman and children are always busy behind the Lines. producing weapons and Clothing, Preparing Camps, Food, Vegetables. Medical Packs. Water packs and Woman and Children are used as Spys and Scouts and messengers.
Strengthening and MAKING and enabling the War effort. Once You stop the base of Your Enemy by Removing their Food, Crops, Suppliers and Strength. You can defend Yourself against other enemies. You forget that the jews were outnumbered, Out Manned and surrounded by Your Buddies.
My uncle was in Vietnam = Women and Children were sent out loaded with Bombs and carried Guns and Chemicals and Food, And medical Supplies and Clothing and MESSAGES. Terrorists use Women and Children to Fight their Wars.
My uncle had to kill women and children who came at Him with Bombs and Guns. They are a part of every FIGHTING Force on the planet. After the War, My uncle would wake up Crying and Screaming, Shaking and Hurting his Pillow Soaked in Tears and His body sweaty and Clenched. Because he still seen the images of little Children and women that were Killed. He wanted to Go back and save them in his Dreams. They were used to fight in many battles.
But War is not about YOUR Childish Fantasy and Dreams.
My Great uncles were in WW ll. They Bombed Factories, Schools used to Disguise and Hide and stock weapons and plans of enemy operations, Power Plants, Food Stores and Crops and water supplies. Clothing and War tools that the Woman and Children were Helping to keep the Germans and Italians stocked in Conducting their war against the USA. My Grandfather Was in Italy, Bombing many, many Catholic Churches that the Italians and Nazis used to Hide and Disguise their War Efforts.
Please Wake up and Come back to Reality.
The USA has Killed more women and Children in war , that the jEWS could even imagine. Women and children their Homes and Presence - are Used to Build the War effort in a greater way than You ever thought.
Last edited: