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The Bible and aliens

Ben Dhyan

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Thanks for that robocop....yes quantum computing at the microtubule level of the brain appears to be how our non-dual consciousness arises in the brain, however imho, the development of ego self is somehow related to the brains's synapse firing matrix which processes perceptions more like a conventional computation process, albeit always against the backdrop of the quantum vacuum fluctuation processing of the microtubules. Iow, the underlying non-dual awareness is is always processing even when we are asleep, but the ego self-consciousness is lost when we sleep.

Here is a link to the work done by Hammeroff and Penrose on the quantum computations taking place in the brain's microtubules (and btw, in all the bodies cells/DNA) at the quantum vacuum/zero point energy level....don't worry if your head hurts trying to follow it...mine does too so I don't bother to try nowadays...suffice to say that I used to work with computer processing logic hardware many moons ago so it helped me to understand the gist...that's enough.

Quantum Consciousness
 

robocop (actually)

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So basically what this guy is saying is that each or some of the 10^7 microtubules in a neuron have parts of them bonded by London forces that can be set by input forces through making more than one possible bonding state (for instance a chance between two electrons being in the bottom state would be a 50-50 but there can be other chances). Then the probably dominant answers make it through the overall microtubule calculation because they have high enough energy. Is that correct? The 10^7 microtubules keep track of different things.
 

Ben Dhyan

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Hi robocop..thanks for the link...excellent!

The thing about the zero point energy/quantum vacuum energy is not the electrons directly, but the collapse of the waveforms. This is a bit beyond my direct understanding but I get the gist.

Imagine the quantum vacuum as being constituted of a frequency spectrum 'soup' containing all wavelengths smaller than that of electrons....to the infinitesimal. Interference patterns are creating virtual particles and anti-particles all the time, they are coming into existence as temporary spherical standing waves centres and back out.

Here is a link that may give you an overview of what ZPE is.....if you ever wondered what causes inertia...this is an eye opener....Can the Quantum Vacuum be Engineered for Spaceflight applications? ....or if you prefer a pdf copy ...http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_12_2_puthoff.pdf
 

robocop (actually)

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Where do you want to go from here? “Extra-terrestrials and the Bible and…”
1.Let the thread go
2.Physics
3.Science
4.Engineering and technology
5.Philosophy
6.Love
7.Other Religions
8.Politics
9. Society
10.Um… Religion in everyday life
11.Why they are important
12.Esoterics
13.Simple easy-to-understand
14. Infinity
15.Genius
16.Individual Life
17.The evidence for them and the evidence for the Bible.
 
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Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
..how about the evolution of religion in the context of the emerging space age, where we will soon (coming decades) see members of the human race leave the 'cradle' and make the transition to an extra-terrestrial solar species with children being born on Lagrange Point Space Stations, and at Lunar, Martian, and Martian Moon Bases and Colonies, etc.,....and the extent that advanced cosmic extra-terrestrial entities have been, are now, and will continue to guide and assist this 'leaving the cradle' process in order that it complies with our star system's planned future developments in the context of Milky Way Galactic government?
 

robocop (actually)

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Bible Codes/ Bible and other religions – Since we are on the Bible as the topic, the Bible covers several other religions as Bible Codes; it is OK to discuss other religions in this thread. These are only not on a mathematical foundation because the mathematicians don’t know if they were manufactured. In fact they were made by a ‘caring’ alien species that not only covers our lives in the Bible in great detail but even is active in the writing of a book like Moby Dick.

Noachide – The oldest religion known on the planet comes from the idea of travelling through space to avoid calamity, hence we see the evolution of emerging space age religion started at the top.

Zoroastrian – There are 6 of them in the world. They believe good Gods and bad Gods are fighting with each other and with them and they are fighting back. This is one of the first religions and it is motivating if nothing else. They are obligated to make space travel as part of the battle.

Very small, miniscule religions – I remember reading a record from Bushman or some African tribe, describing a UFO landing. But they can’t know so much.

Judaism and Christianity-

Islam – Islam says it would expire once we reached the moon.
People create other people on other planets in a cycle. Black people created white people in a lab. Verse 17 – lightning from a cloud – the cloud could be a UFO. Lots of UFO verses.

Those nonreligious – Surprisingly, Atheists know daily religion better than any main group of Christian, Mormons, or Jews. Jews know the most about world religion, and Mormons about the Bible and Christianity. Atheists know the most over all. So they are in some way religious, just not formally. This helps them to not be supernatural, fighting backwards institutions for space travel.

Hinduism – One person is ready to hold all the consciousness once everyone else is destroyed, and to channel it to another planet. Detachment helps as well as something else!

Buddhism – As a society, we must get rid of bad spirits that bring us down and focus on spirits that raise us. This will enable peaceful interplanetary travel. It is always important to do good things when conditions are good. For instance Israel was the first civilization with environmental commandments (air water trees), and when they are at war they can’t clean them up. It is as a society that we survive and distance ourselves from earth.

Jainism - It stands to reason that in the vastness of time and space, there’s no reason to kill each other and survival and surviving others is the way to get noticed, because then you are more likely to be the local existent (copying enjoyed by e.t.s but not killing). By minimizing the harming of plants (they have cellular plans) and animals, in order of pain, they are following the advice of their creator.

Shinto – I don’t know, but the Japanese have Judaic roots and love Raelism, my UFO religion.

Sikhism, Bah’a’I, Korean Shamanism, Caodaism, Cheonodism, Hoahaosim, Tenriism –I don’t know, and its no excuse since my religion may be smaller..

Mormonism - vs. 5 appears to be a rocket. Alma gets visited by “angels” in a “cloud”. Helaman has people escaping jail by what reads like a UFO, and some more.

Scientology – Adam is an atom. We have a very powerful force against us from outer space. Be ready to take over the government if the need arises.

Raelism – Chock full of references to aliens and space travel, especially since it is the religion for the time of Mars travel.

I like the Lagrange point space stations.

We can get enough energy to travel to the nearest star by putting solar panels on the moon or in orbit around the sun, sending microwaves to a receiver of the energy, and having a large enough storage space for the energy (we can probably make the ship as big as we want).

Next, Judaism and Christianity, and how exactly they are assisting us with this goal (I have to go home first).
 
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robocop (actually)

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In the Bible, if you followl, the creators of humans were exiled to earth (upon your belly shall you go).

This was after the humans were created superior to the creators. (the evidence is strong when you take a lot of verses together. Ask and I can help you with this.)

The humans tried to show they would be good with the Tower of Babel, a tower to heaven/rocket.

This was after they had already built a rocket around Earth in Noah, and the TofB rocket would have been a much bigger rocket.

Because of this the creators and people in Heaven slowed us down, so that if we could progress scientifically on our own, with prophets as in-and-out guides. This would increase our chances of being self-reliant and independent and peaceful with them, I think.

But it was impossible for us to be safe to them, I think, since they never wanted to destroy us completely. That’s where Jesus and Christianity come in.
Jesus had three wise men follow him with a star; a star replacing cloud for UFO since travelling to the stars has to do with our independence. He was baptized to make sure that stuff just got real, and then he left several messages about space travel.

The sower was about the creator’s experience with interplanetary creation. The first seeds (planet) were too close; the next had too much radiation, the next had too much flora, then they made planets where their occupants would copy themselves onto other planets.

There are several references to extra-terrestrials and UFOs in the New Testament, but there is also a lot of space travel reference. The first shall be last and the last shall be first means we will “take up the torch” from them one day since we are better. The parable of the tree that the birds took root in was about extra-terrestrials landing on our home and helping us there.

It is important to know the conditions whereby they are helping us, and if you believe Raelism after following its “proof” at the start, you can believe and understand those conditions in my view.

Also, I hope I don’t butcher this since I’m winging this, but interplanetary (like Mars-Earth) civilization would mean we would no longer be self-destructive, a big plus. This is not from the Bible, but it is from Raeliasm, and the Bible has a Bible Code that matches alien/demon to 1946, the year my prophet was born.

In fact the only religious reference (besides Raelism) I know of moon/Mars/Mars’ moon travel is the one I quoted from the Qu’Ran. L. Ron Hubbard talked about beautiful women on planets in our solar system.
 
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robocop (actually)

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tyvm! Awesome! I had forgotten about that.
It's always nice to hear that stuff and wonder if it's 100% true or mostly true.

For instance, Raelian's state that the ark was a space ship not a submarine. If it was a submarine it would have a harder time distributing all the machines that could make the animals come back to life once the land appeared. Since Noah landed on a small piece of land and then sacrificed all the animals by 2, it's kind of likely that this is what the ark would have to do (fly), and when I translate the ark up on the water verse it says donated over the country instead of lift up over the ground. Rael has something amazing to say about this.

I'm working on an idea that the ark was a machine that understood the very existence of life and produced it back outward once the waters stopped.
 

Ben Dhyan

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...and here is the free download of the complete book...
"The Lost Book of Enki", by Zecharia Sitchin....on which the youtube synopsis is based.

Btw, here is a now outdated space plan that, despite falling behind in implementation, any human expansion into the solar system and beyond will follow generally along the lines outlined. Now that the Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Europeans, and Indians all have active deep space program capabilities, the human off planet expansion will soon manifest.....Integrated Space Plan....Becoming a Solar Species in 21st Century
 
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robocop (actually)

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Of course, much of the Bible is unclear because writers and transcribers couldn't understand it properly when it happened or from what they copied. Many of them were primitive!

Also, I need to make a correction. Almost all the E.T.s or many wanted us dead at the time of Noah.
 
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Ben Dhyan

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This is for interest's sake...the cosmos is much too mysterious to know how and why these apparently prescient 'coincidences' happen, but I don't rule out a form of channeling. We know the ETs are able to influence humanity through visions, dreams, intuition, and even verbally if appropriate, so I put forward that these two examples of sensitive artistic type men who were provided the relevant information in the sci-fi stories that was conducive to the actual realization as the technologies became available to manifest the reality...not that they knew for certain at the time!

Thee first book was the famous Gulliver’s Travels, written by Jonathan Swift, who wrote of the two moon of Mars in 1726...that is 150 years before Asaph Hall III, an American astronomer, famous for discovering the two moons of Mars, Deimos and Phobos, in 1877. But there is more astounding additional detaisl concerning near matching orbital periods and size of the moons....read here...Jonathan Swift described the two moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos

The second was Jules Verne, famous for writing the world famous science fiction novel "From Earth to the Moon" in 1865, 100 years before NASA mission Apollo 13 landed men on the Moon in 1969. Read here to see the astounding coincidences...Space Theology (Astrotheology)

Psalm 19:1-4

The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they reveal knowledge.
They have no speech, they use no words;
no sound is heard from them.
Yet their voice goes out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.
 

robocop (actually)

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thank you Ben d,

Of course, there is an easy way to reconcile the Sumerian and Biblical account, particularly about time.

The actual ice core data showed periods of warming and cooling like we've discussed, for a very long time.

The records from the ground show dinosaurs and such with varying quick boons and long periods of survival, with long periods of absence.

The earth could have been populated long ago but destroyed with all evidence being destroyed, but recently the scientists came down to do what both the Bible and Sumerian tablets state. When they messed up on equilibrium, with animals or whatever, they nuked their creations all to fossil on a scale that would match with the records, correlating the ground fossils and the ice. The nukes were so great they would show up as that timeline.

The actual tablets were "lies" so that scientists could understand it one way and very modern scientists another.

It was really a dozen or three thousand years. But why would they want to tell us this before it made sense? We had to understand nuclear aging, ice cores and a lot of other stuff to get the truth. This explains why our ecology is weak; they only had so much time to balance it.

Also the "Beast" in creation's fifth day could be an early human.
 
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robocop (actually)

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Dear friends,

We need to focus on something more important today. It's time for me to be Robocop actually. The earth is in trouble. We could nuke the scientific centers of the world and quickly lose power to control our survival as a race. Israel and the United States' governments are acting crazy about war but I hope they can be at peace since they are dominant.

Will you please join me in meditating 1 minute for peace? You can go in the community or get a group or do it multiple times, but if you could just meditate anywhere one minute for nothing other than peace I would really appreciate it, friend or enemy. Breathe in, breath out, close your eyes, and focus.
 

Ben Dhyan

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Consider it being done...though I have already been meditating extensively daily for many years according to my dhyan practice in preparation.

Yes...it does seem the planet is entering into a critical period.. we should all be prepared for some unexpected events. Btw, i can only imagine what your robocop role is, and peace is not what comes to mind.
 

robocop (actually)

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It was a name made in haste; I can't excuse it now, but it was meant to suggest that a robocop might handle peace better than a real one. Just remember that a robot like that should not be allowed to reproduce.
 
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