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Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
Does it really work?

I'm all for it. But, I've heard others who vehemently disagree.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
We have a PR campaign in our city about grass clippings. In summer time about half the city's garbage disposal cost is for grass clippings. I imagine the dollar figure would be substantial.

People don't know (out of some sort of archaic habit I suppose, just like summerfallow was once considered great ... until it depleted the top soil) that grass clippings are free fertilizer for the lawn and decompose quickly when mulched.

This money could be used on social [programs, better roads, etc. Fortunately half the people do take advantage of the natural free fertilizer, unlike 30 years ago.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
To throw out grass clippings always struck me as a ridiculous waste of time & resources.
Just leave'm on the lawn. Nuthin easier or better.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Yes, people actually will spend time raking them and then complain about all the hard work they had to do. It's a great example of how some habits are really engrained.
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
To throw out grass clippings always struck me as a ridiculous waste of time & resources.
Just leave'm on the lawn. Nuthin easier or better.

I say the same things about grass and leaves.
If one uses a mulcher lawnmower, it doesn't even need raking.

Personally, as for recycling, this is something we should have done from the get go.
It's only going to really become an issue once we run out of landfills.

Kind of hard to recycle all the billions and billions of toxic wastes that fill warehouses across the world that scientists have no idea what to do with, though.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes, people actually will spend time raking them and then complain about all the hard work they had to do. It's a great example of how some habits are really engrained.

The typical American lawn in general is a perfect example of the antithesis of reduce, reuse, recycle. Instead of using native plants and landscaping which are self-maintaining, we waste time and energy with those biotic deserts.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The typical American lawn in general is a perfect example of the antithesis of reduce, reuse, recycle. Instead of using native plants and landscaping which are self-maintaining, we waste time and energy with those biotic deserts.
My lawn is whatever survives mowing & weather (no watering or fertilizing).
Some of it is even grass.
Mr Darwin decides on the mix.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Does it really work?

I'm all for it. But, I've heard others who vehemently disagree.
Does it really work at what?
In terms of a serious diminution of our species' ecological footprint, I think it's a drop in the bucket, more symbolic than effective.
In terms of economics it's probably pernicious.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Does it really work at what?
In terms of a serious diminution of our species' ecological footprint, I think it's a drop in the bucket, more symbolic than effective.
If enuf people are "symbolic" then it has large scale effect.

In terms of economics it's probably pernicious.
I do it primarily because it makes economic sense.
Examples:
- Composting food waste improves my garden & saves money on trash hauling.
- Letting grass clippings lie saves me work. I don't even use a mulching deck on my mower because it consumes more fuel. It's unnecessary anyway.
- Instead of throwing old items in the trash, I donate'm to local resale shops. This saves me & their customers money, reduces consumer product manufacturing, & cuts landfill use.
- Etc, etc, etc...
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Does it really work?

I'm all for it. But, I've heard others who vehemently disagree.

Reducing and reusing, definitely. Recycling... there are tradeoffs. For instance, paper recycling takes a fair bit of water, so it may not be justifiable in areas with water shortages. On the whole it's positive, though.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
In terms of a serious diminution of our species' ecological footprint, I think it's a drop in the bucket, more symbolic than effective.

Really? I have to strongly disagree. The reduce and reuse steps in particular are vital to reducing mismanagement of natural resources and have a huge impact on ecological footprints.

Now, if we want a symbolic behavior, then we can talk about people buying things with the "all natural" label, a term which means diddly squat.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
We have recycle collection at the same time as garbage collection. Different trucks come by. Plastic, cardboard, paper, glass, in one box. When I go for a morning walk on collection days, the piles are about equal. 50% of household waste being recycled in a city with population over a million is hardly insignificant.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Join us holier-than-thou recycling fanatics, & we'll see what happens!
I think you misconstrue my diabolic advocacy. I am one of those tree-hugging, holier-than-thou fanatics. But I'd also like to stress that the average consumer contributes to the problem more by being a consumer than can be alleviated by recycling a bit of the unnecessary stuff he's encouraged to consume.
 
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