Gods 10 commandments

[Sees]

Some of Emperor Julian's thoughts...

"Now except for the command "Thou shalt not worship other gods," and "Remember the sabbath day," what nation is there, I ask in the name of the gods, which does not think that it ought to keep the other commandments? So much so that penalties have been ordained against those who transgress them, sometimes more severe, and sometimes similar to those enacted by Moses, though they are sometimes more humane.

But as for the commandment "Thou shalt not worship other gods," to this surely he adds a terrible libel upon God. "For I am a jealous God," he says, and in another place again, "Our God is a consuming fire.". Then if a man is jealous and envious you think him blameworthy, whereas if God is called jealous you think it a divine quality?..."

 

[creXifiction]

This is such an interesting Topic.. I always admire people who Follow the Sabbath Law..

But I remember the Verse...
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

 

[CMike]

First of all the 10 commandments are separate from the law of Moses according to scripture

EXODUS 24 [12] And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, AND a law, AND commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.

We can see that the law AND the ten commandments are separate. They are not lumped into 600 plus commandments called the law as the "many" claim.

All 613 commandments are included in the 10 commandments.

 

[RabbiO]

First of all the 10 commandments are separate from the law of Moses according to scripture

EXODUS 24 [12] And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, AND a law, AND commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.

We can see that the law AND the ten commandments are separate. They are not lumped into 600 plus commandments called the law as the "many" claim.

No, what we can actually see is that your translation is wrong, in several respects, including, but not limited to, a misunderstanding of the use of וְ, as only meaning "and."

Peter

 

[WALL]

No, what we can actually see is that your translation is wrong, in several respects, including, but not limited to, a misunderstanding of the use of וְ, as only meaning "and."

Peter

Deuteronomy 4:13 (KJV)
13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

A whole separate covenant from the other commandments written in the law

 

[CMike]

Try
Deuteronomy - Chapter 4 (Parshah Va'etchanan) - Tanakh Online - Torah - Bible

13. And He told you His covenant, which He commanded you to do, the Ten Commandments, and He inscribed them on two stone tablets.

What is interesting too is

14. And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and ordinances, so that you should do them in the land to which you are crossing, to possess

That refers to the oral law.

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

I hesitated...I thought 'why not'.

[youtube]4TAtRCJIqnk[/youtube]
Moses - Ten Commandments - Mel Brooks - YouTube

 

[roger1440]

First of all the 10 commandments are separate from the law of Moses according to scripture

EXODUS 24 [12] And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, AND a law, AND commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.

We can see that the law AND the ten commandments are separate. They are not lumped into 600 plus commandments called the law as the "many" claim.

Let’s say you are right. How is it that the Jews don’t seem to know this? All the Jews for round about 3000 years don’t seem to have your insight. That’s a heck of a lot Jews. They should be thankful for you explaining their own scripture to them.

 

[Sees]

In the old days there where IGNORANT, human beings, so foolish (lost in the ways of Egyptians and Sumerians) they where GROUNDED in their STUPID.

They where given laws. They FAILED to comport.

The failed and failed.

They where long ago.

We still remember them, and THINK the LAWS given to the MORONS that they where are BETTER.

They are NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TO MEET TODAYS STANDARD OF BETTER.

What was, was a mess.

Cling to the STUPID, IRNORANT, MINDLESS existence of what was, and KNOW you rather SUCK on the teat of yesterday.

BETTER, is not yesterday.

Yahshuah, Muhammad, BOTH SAID BETTER WOULD COME AFTER THEM.

Where both humble in a stupid/lying way, or HONEST?

BOTH, said those who live after will be BETTER.

If your not better, your dragging us all down into a PIT of madness.

Better is a NEED. A Vital NEED for humanity, not as a savior or profit, but as a touchable/lovable friend.


The END, is not a question to be pondered, when the LIVING is so feebly KNOW!

Deal with what IS, the LIVE, the loving, the NOW.

Let go of the madness of elder ages, striving to perceive what comes after, and KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE, their thousands of years in many expressions of overreaching, WHERE LIES, self-delusional lies.


So much for the East's obsession--They still found many better ways of dealing with the NOW.

 

[CMike]

Yeah...worshipping a person who claimed he was a god makes much more sense than worshipping the G-d who took them out of Egypt.

Stupid stupid stupid.

 

[WALL]

Let’s say you are right. How is it that the Jews don’t seem to know this? All the Jews for round about 3000 years don’t seem to have your insight. That’s a heck of a lot Jews. They should be thankful for you explaining their own scripture to them.

Jews need not thank me. Its explained in the new covenant scriptures.

1 COR. 7 [19] Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Circumcision from the law of Moses separate from the 10 commandments

 

[sojourner]

According to Judaism? What about what is written in the Word?

Deuteronomy 4:27-31 (KJV)
27 And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.
28 And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.
29 But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

As you know {I think} God scattered 10 tribes amoung the gentiles {heathens}. In the last days the remnant of these tribes will return and obey the voice.

Deuteronomy 30:3-8 (KJV)
3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
7 And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.

This remnant who are considered to be gentiles will return. Obey the voice and observe to keep all TEN commandments. Not 7

Jews wrote "the Word."

 

[sojourner]

Because we are to "observe" to keep the 10 commandments. We will fall short. We will be as filthy rags. We cant keep them perfectly. That's why we could never be saved by the keeping of the those commandments. We are saved by the grace of God. The free gift. Period.

Keeping the Law doesn't "save" one -- never has. Keeping the Law makes one righteous.

 

[sojourner]

Jews need not thank me. Its explained in the new covenant scriptures.

1 COR. 7 [19] Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Circumcision from the law of Moses separate from the 10 commandments

Your exegetical skills are amazingly underwhelming.

 

[Levite]

Your exegetical skills are amazingly underwhelming.

That might be a fairly dramatic piece of understatement.

 

[WALL]

Your exegetical skills are amazingly underwhelming.

Thank you.

 

[WALL]

Your exegetical skills are amazingly underwhelming.

Lets take a look at scripture to see if your on the right path or myself

1 COR. 3 [1] And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. [2] I HAVE FED YOU WITH MILK, AND NOT WITH MEAT: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. [3] For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

HEBREWS 5 [12] For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. [13] FOR EVERY ONE THAT USETH MILK IS UNSKILFUL IN THE WORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS: FOR HE IS A BABE. [14] But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

The two above new testament scriptures tell us we should be teachers of the word. It also tells us everyone that uses milk is unskilful in the word.

ISAIAH 28 [9] WHOM SHALL HE TEACH KNOWLEDGE? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? THEM THAT ARE WEANED FROM THE MILK, and drawn from the breasts.[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:[11] For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.[12] To whom he said, THIS IS THE REST wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and THIS IS THE REFRESHING: yet they would not hear.

In Hebrews 5 the scripture tells us we should be teachers of the Word but we dont understand, we are still just babes, milk drinkers. In Isaiah we see that those whom God will teach knowledge and whom he shall make to understand doctrine are those who are weaned from the milk. Who are these milk drinkers (verse 12) that dont understand doctrine? To whom he said this is the rest and the refreshing, but they refused to hear. Rest? Refreshing?

EXODUS 31 [15] Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.[16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.[17] It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and ON THE SEVENTH DAY HE RESTED, AND WAS REFRESHED.

Heres a scripture that speaks of a rest and a refreshing. And yes, the milk drinkers do refuse to hear that scripture.

GOT MILK?

 

[sojourner]

That might be a fairly dramatic piece of understatement.

Mediocrity is the one attribute at which I excel.

 

[sojourner]

Lets take a look at scripture to see if your on the right path or myself

1 COR. 3 [1] And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. [2] I HAVE FED YOU WITH MILK, AND NOT WITH MEAT: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. [3] For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

HEBREWS 5 [12] For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. [13] FOR EVERY ONE THAT USETH MILK IS UNSKILFUL IN THE WORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS: FOR HE IS A BABE. [14] But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

The two above new testament scriptures tell us we should be teachers of the word. It also tells us everyone that uses milk is unskilful in the word.

ISAIAH 28 [9] WHOM SHALL HE TEACH KNOWLEDGE? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? THEM THAT ARE WEANED FROM THE MILK, and drawn from the breasts.[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:[11] For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.[12] To whom he said, THIS IS THE REST wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and THIS IS THE REFRESHING: yet they would not hear.

In Hebrews 5 the scripture tells us we should be teachers of the Word but we dont understand, we are still just babes, milk drinkers. In Isaiah we see that those whom God will teach knowledge and whom he shall make to understand doctrine are those who are weaned from the milk. Who are these milk drinkers (verse 12) that dont understand doctrine? To whom he said this is the rest and the refreshing, but they refused to hear. Rest? Refreshing?

EXODUS 31 [15] Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.[16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.[17] It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and ON THE SEVENTH DAY HE RESTED, AND WAS REFRESHED.

Heres a scripture that speaks of a rest and a refreshing. And yes, the milk drinkers do refuse to hear that scripture.

GOT MILK?

Problem is, exegesis provides the teeth to chew meat. All your posts have provided is incredible sucking ... at the teat of naiveté.

 

[gzusfrk]

Must we "observe" to keep the 10 commandments {including the Sabbath} in order to be saved to the kingdom?

Step on up to the new covenant my friend