Dangerous book for atheists

[Revoltingest]

Does it come with a free knife set?

You're thinking of "The Art Of Cleaving".

 

[hexler]

Open this site:
Erich Fromm - Wikiquote

and you can read:

Ch. 2

In the dominant Western religious system, the love of God is essentially the same as the belief in God, in God’s existence, God’s justice, God’s love. The love of God is essentially a thought experience. In the Eastern religions and in mysticism, the love of God is an intense feeling experience of oneness, inseparably linked with the expression of this love in every act of living.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

You're thinking of "The Art Of Cleaving".

Sounds like an even more dangerous book for atheists, what with their nihilistic outlook on life. Who knows what they'd do with a knife and the knowledge to wield it!

Open this site:
Erich Fromm - Wikiquote

and you can read:

Ch. 2

In the dominant Western religious system, the love of God is essentially the same as the belief in God, in God’s existence, God’s justice, God’s love. The love of God is essentially a thought experience. In the Eastern religions and in mysticism, the love of God is an intense feeling experience of oneness, inseparably linked with the expression of this love in every act of living.

So it's interdependence and oneness with a papier-mache God mask on. I'm awe-struck.

 

[Enai de a lukal]

I don't avoid books for fear they'll challenge my beliefs. That's why I'm an atheist in the first place.

Boom. Exactly.

 

[Revoltingest]

Open this site:
Erich Fromm - Wikiquote
and you can read:
Ch. 2
In the dominant Western religious system, the love of God is essentially the same as the belief in God, in God’s existence, God’s justice, God’s love. The love of God is essentially a thought experience. In the Eastern religions and in mysticism, the love of God is an intense feeling experience of oneness, inseparably linked with the expression of this love in every act of living.

That strikes me as offering insight into the religious mind.
But convert me it would not.

 

[Alceste]

Open this site:
Erich Fromm - Wikiquote

and you can read:

Ch. 2

In the dominant Western religious system, the love of God is essentially the same as the belief in God, in God’s existence, God’s justice, God’s love. The love of God is essentially a thought experience. In the Eastern religions and in mysticism, the love of God is an intense feeling experience of oneness, inseparably linked with the expression of this love in every act of living.

And this sentence is dangerous to my lack of belief because...?

 

[hexler]

And this sentence is dangerous to my lack of belief because...?

It is only dangerous if you consider the consequences. Because if you look for truth it might happen you change your former convincement.

 

[psychoslice]

Open this site:
Erich Fromm - Wikiquote

and you can read:

Ch. 2

In the dominant Western religious system, the love of God is essentially the same as the belief in God, in God’s existence, God’s justice, God’s love. The love of God is essentially a thought experience. In the Eastern religions and in mysticism, the love of God is an intense feeling experience of oneness, inseparably linked with the expression of this love in every act of living.

But why call it god, why not just the love for existence itself, that's what atheist love.

 

[hexler]

But why call it god, why not just the love for existence itself, that's what atheist love.

Many atheists have fear to be called conservative, if they would turn to a religion. No doubt, in the state of a decadent religion there are more conservative believers, than it was in the time when the religion did function well. Take f.e. islamic culture. Europe's culture centuries ago would not be possible without Islam.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What about thiests who became atheists? Dunno if it would work for insiders.

 

[Alceste]

It is only dangerous if you consider the consequences. Because if you look for truth it might happen you change your former convincement.

I think the word you may be looking for is conviction.

Why would I consider it "dangerous" to change my mind if I turned out to be wrong about something?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

It is only dangerous if you consider the consequences. Because if you look for truth it might happen you change your former convincement.

The consequences of using the word "God" as a label for anything you desire and assuming that those using the same word are also using the same minority definition as yourself? Dire consequences indeed.

Many atheists have fear to be called conservative, if they would turn to a religion. No doubt, in the state of a decadent religion there are more conservative believers, than it was in the time when the religion did function well. Take f.e. islamic culture. Europe's culture centuries ago would not be possible without Islam.

Assuming atheists can't be religious, or that atheism is anti-religion by definition...

 

[hexler]

I think the word you may be looking for is conviction.

Why would I consider it "dangerous" to change my mind if I turned out to be wrong about something?

I took this adventure on my shoulders. When I was young I had many friends who were students, artists, intellectuals a.s.o. They were mostly atheists. When I was travelling through Europe I met many people, I was discussing long nights with them. In Berlin I met Bahá'ís. I had to agree, that my views until now were limited. I also learned something about chinese philosophy. I studied f.e. I-Ching. Did you know that Richard Wilhelm (translater of chinese books) and C.G. Jung (opponent of Freud) worked together and wrote a book? Great people!
When I came to my home town I had to face that my old friends were not more my friends, because they clinged to their narrow beliefs.

 

[Parsimony]

It is only dangerous if you consider the consequences. Because if you look for truth it might happen you change your former convincement.

If the change in a viewpoint brings a person closer to the truth, whatever that truth happens to be, would that not be a good thing? Where's the danger in that?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

I took this adventure on my shoulders. When I was young I had many friends who were students, artists, intellectuals a.s.o. They were mostly atheists. When I was travelling through Europe I met many people, I was discussing long nights with them. In Berlin I met Bahá'ís. I had to agree, that my views until now were limited. I also learned something about chinese philosophy. I studied f.e. I-Ching. Did you know that Richard Wilhelm (translater of chinese books) and C.G. Jung (opponent of Freud) worked together and wrote a book? Great people!
When I came to my home town I had to face that my old friends were not more my friends, because they clinged to their narrow beliefs.

Or they didn't feel the need to redefine their terms for your sake.

 

[hexler]

Or they didn't feel the need to redefine their terms for your sake.

You can bet, they were not brave. We were discussing all night long, I did not drink alcohol, but they did. I had the feeling with their atheism it was the also same reason
with their drinking: I will not change my habits - where could that lead?

 

[psychoslice]

You can bet, they were not brave. We were discussing all night long, I did not drink alcohol, but they did. I had the feeling with their atheism it was the also same reason
with their drinking: I will not change my habits - where could that lead?

so its only a habit ?.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I fail to see how that book is threatening to atheists.

 

[LuisDantas]

You do not have a particularly good image of atheists, hexler. If I dare say so, it may not be very accurate either.

Maybe you just happened to have a not very good set of friends who were also atheists. I dunno.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

You can bet, they were not brave. We were discussing all night long, I did not drink alcohol, but they did. I had the feeling with their atheism it was the also same reason
with their drinking: I will not change my habits - where could that lead?

Stereotyping your opponents is never a good move in a discussion. For example, this atheist doesn't drink. Neither do most of my atheist friends.

Believing in atheism being the cause of alcoholism is like believing Christianity is the cause of war-mongering.