why are there so many weak minded adult males these years?

[kloth]

perhaps it depends on where you live, but for the most part i come across grown men (some are old men) who seem to care about teen age things (i.e. how cool or tough they are) more so than taking care of their family, financial state, jobs, house, community, themself, etc.
i find it odd that so many adult males these years are still going through a rebelious stage in their life still, and have been for years. especially in this day in age, what hasn't been done by now? why be so concerned (or obsessed) with trying to prove something or be something you are not as an adult male these years?

 

[bobhikes]

perhaps it depends on where you live, but for the most part i come across grown men (some are old men) who seem to care about teen age things (i.e. how cool or tough they are) more so than taking care of their family, financial state, jobs, house, community, themself, etc.
i find it odd that so many adult males these years are still going through a rebelious stage in their life still, and have been for years. especially in this day in age, what hasn't been done by now? why be so concerned (or obsessed) with trying to prove something or be something you are not as an adult male these years?

I would guess it depends where you live.

I live in New Jersey, USA and all the males I know, that have a family put family things first. There are grown men that have never married or some that are divorced with adult kids that fit your description. I can honestly say I have never met a married family man that is like your description.

 

[Sunstone]

perhaps it depends on where you live, but for the most part i come across grown men (some are old men) who seem to care about teen age things (i.e. how cool or tough they are) more so than taking care of their family, financial state, jobs, house, community, themself, etc.
i find it odd that so many adult males these years are still going through a rebelious stage in their life still, and have been for years. especially in this day in age, what hasn't been done by now? why be so concerned (or obsessed) with trying to prove something or be something you are not as an adult male these years?

I haven't noticed any general tendency of adult males in the place I live to be overly concerned about matters one would typically associate with teen concerns. The few males that might fit that description seem to be outliers.

 

[Cardboard]

I have seen as of late a lacking work ethic and increase in apathy in younger adults, but as I look around and see how so much has changed, I really can not blame them.
Each generation holds its own challenges, this one is not different, and I can see it manifesting itself in our youth, as it did when I was in my twenties or thirties.
But I can say this is not weak minded individuals doing this, this is a negative cultural change brought about by perceptual differences of the world, of what a family, a man or woman should be today.

 

[Aquitaine]

perhaps it depends on where you live, but for the most part i come across grown men (some are old men) who seem to care about teen age things (i.e. how cool or tough they are) more so than taking care of their family, financial state, jobs, house, community, themself, etc.
i find it odd that so many adult males these years are still going through a rebelious stage in their life still, and have been for years. especially in this day in age, what hasn't been done by now? why be so concerned (or obsessed) with trying to prove something or be something you are not as an adult male these years?

This sort of behaviour can be observed in all Genders/Sexes, and regardless of Age.

Irresponsible people, are irresponsible.

 

[Revoltingest]

perhaps it depends on where you live, but for the most part i come across grown men (some are old men) who seem to care about teen age things (i.e. how cool or tough they are) more so than taking care of their family, financial state, jobs, house, community, themself, etc.
i find it odd that so many adult males these years are still going through a rebelious stage in their life still, and have been for years. especially in this day in age, what hasn't been done by now? why be so concerned (or obsessed) with trying to prove something or be something you are not as an adult male these years?

I haven't noticed, which could be either my problem or theirs. But guys are living at home with their parents far longer than in years past, this could slow their growth towards independence.

 

[Aquitaine]

I haven't noticed, which could be either my problem or theirs. But guys are living at home with their parents far longer than in years past, this could slow their growth towards independence.

This is happening in the UK, but with both Men and Women. Primarily, the reason is because house prices and the general Cost of Living have significantly increased over the decades.

Inflation, higher cost of living, higher population count, weaker currency etc.

 

[Uberpod]

perhaps it depends on where you live, but for the most part i come across grown men (some are old men) who seem to care about teen age things (i.e. how cool or tough they are) more so than taking care of their family, financial state, jobs, house, community, themself, etc.
i find it odd that so many adult males these years are still going through a rebelious stage in their life still, and have been for years. especially in this day in age, what hasn't been done by now? why be so concerned (or obsessed) with trying to prove something or be something you are not as an adult male these years?

maybe an extended adolescence occurs when guys live with their parents longer?

 

[Thana]

I suppose it's a cultural thing, And this generation has different challenges than the last so it's safe to assume they would be different to one another.

 

[dust1n]

If I was to take a stab at it, I would say a lot of adult males acting like younger version of themselves, if that is the proper way to think about it, would be a result of multiple generations of advertising, new advertising, and cultural pressures to acquire "fun" or to "enjoy life" to its fullest. This rather conflicts with what is has meant to be an adult, which is not puerile, but generally consists of hard work and boredom. Advertising and society never sell anything "boring," only the "exciting." In addition, less people believe in the afterlife, so people have become more self-aware about their lives and time, and how they would like to spend their time. Coupled with a cultural ethos and advertising that shows only the excitement and none of the responsibility, it's rather surprising that anyone could really "grow up" anymore, in the traditional sense of what we think about growing up.


This is all assuming that anything is actually different at all. Whenever people can afford to be lazy, or dismissive of stuff, they generally take it.

 

[kloth]

I would guess it depends where you live.

I live in New Jersey, USA and all the males I know, that have a family put family things first. There are grown men that have never married or some that are divorced with adult kids that fit your description. I can honestly say I have never met a married family man that is like your description.

thank you for your reply. maybe you are very young, inexperienced so far and/or don't associate with many people or go out much, or maybe live in a very small town or community. because from what i gather from many east coast men is that you gotta fight no matter what, it's a common code of ethics for east coast men i notice no matter who they are. perhaps more in the city though.

I haven't noticed any general tendency of adult males in the place I live to be overly concerned about matters one would typically associate with teen concerns. The few males that might fit that description seem to be outliers.

i know i said it might matter where you live, but you do realize these kind of men are all over and seem to be increasing in the amounts, even if not where you live. which might be a fairly isolated area and have a system better than most cities.

I suppose it's a cultural thing, And this generation has different challenges than the last so it's safe to assume they would be different to one another.

i would have to say that this generation has it much easier. technology, medicines, etc. have only evolved to make life easier for this generation.
for example, people have cell phones with cameras and video recorders right in the palm of their hand, long distance is free in the u.s. and unlimited, and there's texting, etc. how many people would have imagined this would be less than 20 years later?

If I was to take a stab at it, I would say a lot of adult males acting like younger version of themselves, if that is the proper way to think about it, would be a result of multiple generations of advertising, new advertising, and cultural pressures to acquire "fun" or to "enjoy life" to its fullest. This rather conflicts with what is has meant to be an adult, which is not puerile, but generally consists of hard work and boredom. Advertising and society never sell anything "boring," only the "exciting." In addition, less people believe in the afterlife, so people have become more self-aware about their lives and time, and how they would like to spend their time. Coupled with a cultural ethos and advertising that shows only the excitement and none of the responsibility, it's rather surprising that anyone could really "grow up" anymore, in the traditional sense of what we think about growing up.
This is all assuming that anything is actually different at all. Whenever people can afford to be lazy, or dismissive of stuff, they generally take it.

your reply makes me think about the whole 'young at heart' belief. which is okay, but these men are more immature than young at heart. getting themself killed or thrown in prison over nothing by a stranger.

maybe an extended adolescence occurs when guys live with their parents longer?

i suspect late blooming plays a role, but the seeds should get sown eventually. if you're 50 and still need to be cool as a man then get over it, enjoy life. who cares?

This is happening in the UK, but with both Men and Women. Primarily, the reason is because house prices and the general Cost of Living have significantly increased over the decades.

Inflation, higher cost of living, higher population count, weaker currency etc.

maybe so, but you'd think people would get tired of the same ole down falls to being like this, and the same ole excuses that follow.

I haven't noticed, which could be either my problem or theirs. But guys are living at home with their parents far longer than in years past, this could slow their growth towards independence.

not to sound sarcastic but i notice many people often don't notice many things going on in the world these days, even though education is everywhere. no offense.

This sort of behaviour can be observed in all Genders/Sexes, and regardless of Age.

Irresponsible people, are irresponsible.

but it's a mans world for the most part still, even if women are rising up more and more. men have more responsibilty.

 

[kloth]

I have seen as of late a lacking work ethic and increase in apathy in younger adults, but as I look around and see how so much has changed, I really can not blame them.
Each generation holds its own challenges, this one is not different, and I can see it manifesting itself in our youth, as it did when I was in my twenties or thirties.
But I can say this is not weak minded individuals doing this, this is a negative cultural change brought about by perceptual differences of the world, of what a family, a man or woman should be today.

i can blame them because they know better, despite playing dumb. this generation of men has it more easy. maybe that's the problem.

 

[Revoltingest]

not to sound sarcastic but i notice many people often don't notice many things going on in the world these days, even though education is everywhere. no offense.

I'll counter with my observation that I see many people noticing changes which are due not to change
in the world around them, but rather change within the person, causing a change in perception.

 

[hexler]

I also do believe that there are more immature man than women. I see the reason in a non-education. They are just growing up, without any principles. Women have a different startposition; creation has made them to give birth, that means more responsibility.
Many mothers treat their sons like princes. They are allowed to do everything, they get no borders. We should not wonder when there is violence against women. When they were children they experienced that THEY are the leaders.

 

[Me Myself]

I also do believe that there are more immature man than women. I see the reason in a non-education. They are just growing up, without any principles. Women have a different startposition; creation has made them to give birth, that means more responsibility.
Many mothers treat their sons like princes. They are allowed to do everything, they get no borders. We should not wonder when there is violence against women. When they were children they experienced that THEY are the leaders.

I honestly find it funny peoe talking about violence against women as if it were sometng new, when we have way less violence against women than in the past. On the other hand, violence against men is is highest, as always.

No one "has no principles" by the way.

 

[Aquitaine]

but it's a mans world for the most part still, even if women are rising up more and more. men have more responsibilty.

Hmm, I'm inclined to disagree. Where I'm from, Women are taking up pretty-much equal responsibility; female "breadwinners" etc.

If anything, that's the way it should be: 50/50 responsibility between Males and Females.

It is not a Males' place to have a disproportionate amount of responsibility and rights.
It is not a Females' place to have a disproportionate amount of responsibility and rights.

 

[Me Myself]

Men definetely do not have more responsabilities.

While I may be wrong, I understand women still do most domestic work beyond their paid job.

That said, I was listening the other day some feminists talking about it the interesting perspective of this being a lot in part that even if the woman tries not to do it for a day and the husband asks to do it, she still is thinking about it and is worried about the husband doing it wrong, so she ends up getting stressed up about it and wanting to do it herself anyways.

An interesting example also is when the husband says hell go to buy all e stuff, but he asks e list of what to buy. If something is not in the list, it is still seen as her responsibility. Tis is because they are still percieved as to be the ones knowing what is or is not in the kitchen, which foods are needed, the ones taking the role of nutritionists in the family so to say, etc.

 

[Thana]

but it's a mans world for the most part still, even if women are rising up more and more. men have more responsibilty.

Um, Did you seriously just say that?

:run:

 

[lewisnotmiller]

but it's a mans world for the most part still, even if women are rising up more and more. men have more responsibilty.

You might have to indicate what you mean by 'responsibility'. Looking at my own personal situation purely as an example, I'd suggest that I have typically had more responsibility and expectation around being the breadwinner, so to speak (mostly due to earning capacity), whereas my wife definitely take more overall responsibility.

 

[Mycroft]

perhaps it depends on where you live, but for the most part i come across grown men (some are old men) who seem to care about teen age things (i.e. how cool or tough they are) more so than taking care of their family, financial state, jobs, house, community, themself, etc.
i find it odd that so many adult males these years are still going through a rebelious stage in their life still, and have been for years. especially in this day in age, what hasn't been done by now? why be so concerned (or obsessed) with trying to prove something or be something you are not as an adult male these years?

It is how people are conditioned by society. Things such as how men are portrayed in action films and other media have had a big influence on how the male generally acts and thinks.