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The Bible, an important document. How can it be understood?

savagewind

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The Bible as evidence of something. Can it be understood? Can it be trusted?

Discuss (HERE....not there)
 

savagewind

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I was thinking of saying on Katzpur's thread that the Bible need not be 100% understandable to 100% of the people who wish it, but it was Katzpur's thread so I didn't. 100% of the Bible does not have to be understood to know that it is understandable.
 

savagewind

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Continuity of what? The Bible is the end product of a rather long oral and scribal tradition characterized by questionable fidelity.

Of what? The past, present and future. It is my personal opinion the Scriptures of the Hebrews were not written for the day. I believe they really wrote it for their progeny.
 
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billthecat

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The Bible as evidence of something. Can it be understood? Can it be trusted?

Understood as how the document itself came to be?

Or understood by those who believe in God and adhere to the Bible as God's Word. That would include both Followers of Christ (for us both the Old and New Testament) and Judaism (who do not consider the Christian NT as part of the Bible).

If you're asking can it be understood - yes. Admittedly, to varying degrees by different people based on how much study you do, and how God chooses to use the Bible for your particular Spiritual growth. I don't believe you have to be well studied and versed in Hebrew and Greek to understand the Bible and be able to use it for your Spiritual growth and for God to be able to speak to you through it.

If you believe in God and that the Bible is His Word for us, and you seek Him through it, He will be waiting for you in those pages.

If you're predetermined to find it false and useless, that's what you'll find - unless God choose different for you.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Understood as how the document itself came to be?

Or understood by those who believe in God and adhere to the Bible as God's Word. That would include both Followers of Christ (for us both the Old and New Testament) and Judaism (who do not consider the Christian NT as part of the Bible).

If you're asking can it be understood - yes. Admittedly, to varying degrees by different people based on how much study you do, and how God chooses to use the Bible for your particular Spiritual growth. I don't believe you have to be well studied and versed in Hebrew and Greek to understand the Bible and be able to use it for your Spiritual growth and for God to be able to speak to you through it.

If you believe in God and that the Bible is His Word for us, and you seek Him through it, He will be waiting for you in those pages.

If you're predetermined to find it false and useless, that's what you'll find - unless God choose different for you.

Boy, can you follow me around RF and explain to your fellow Christians that my opinion of the Bible was God's decision? Some of them seem to think I came up with it myself. :D
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Oh! I am so glad I know that now. I will add it to my repertoire tout de suite.
I doubt it. You seem to have a tendency for making unsubstantiated claims while thinking that you are actually saying something of substance. Hint: this is a debate forum. What you're doing is display, not debate.
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
Sometimes I am on display. Is there something wrong with it?

Thank you Alceste. Sometimes troll like comments bury some good stuff. I missed cat's comment.
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
Understood as how the document itself came to be?

Or understood by those who believe in God and adhere to the Bible as God's Word. That would include both Followers of Christ (for us both the Old and New Testament) and Judaism (who do not consider the Christian NT as part of the Bible).

If you're asking can it be understood - yes. Admittedly, to varying degrees by different people based on how much study you do, and how God chooses to use the Bible for your particular Spiritual growth. I don't believe you have to be well studied and versed in Hebrew and Greek to understand the Bible and be able to use it for your Spiritual growth and for God to be able to speak to you through it.

If you believe in God and that the Bible is His Word for us, and you seek Him through it, He will be waiting for you in those pages.

If you're predetermined to find it false and useless, that's what you'll find - unless God choose different for you.

I believe who wrote it had meaning. The question is; can the original meaning be understood? I believe that it can. How? Like you say, with God's help.
 
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