I believe that animals have specific purpose and are here primarily to contribute to an ecosystem and to benefit humans, but in necessity.
1) You had said:
There are anmals of specific design who can be utilized for work. I don't think that this is cruel unless the animal is physically harmed.
That's not necessity.
2) Even as food, like i said before one can choose to be a vegetarian.
I'm not a fan of using animals for many recreational activities as mistreatment of the animal is par for the course.
For however long an animal has to spend on this earth, if they're being raised to benefit humans, we have an obligation to care for them and treat them kindly.
Again, i don't think you can claim logically that their supposed lack of consent in sex is cruel as it's using them and so forth and at the same time claim to be okay with what i highlighted above and explained earlier. You're determining the very purpose of the their life based on a belief you have, are okay with using them for work to our benefit, and are okay with killing them for food. All disregarding their lack of consent.
The basis of your objection is ruined by the inconsistency.
There's no inconsistency in my logic.
I disagree.
I don't consider sex with an animal to be kind behavior.
I believe fully that there's something psychologically wrong with someone who uses an animal in such a way and I don't want that sick individual to have the legal right to carry on in such a manner.
I am wholly prejudiced against zoophiles.
This is one area where I won't show tolerance as I don't believe it's deserved.
You can obviously hold whatever feelings you want on the subject and the people involved. However, if you want to make something illegal, or defend it's current status of illegality, then i can't take your feelings as proper basis for an argument.
But if we want to share feelings in general besides addressing supposed arguments for the illegality in question here, then sure. I don't share any of the feelings you expressed, find them totally unjustified and unfair.
Personally, i can't imagine the feeling of being attracted to an animal. The thought of sex with an animal disgusts me. However, i also distinguish between that and between moral and/or legal arguments. The fact that i'm not "into" this thing, and struggle to imagine how can someone like to have sex with animals, is no proper basis to claim that it's immoral nor that it should be illegal.
Yeah. No joke. But, it still, in my opinion makes the person one sick ****.
You had said something about zoophiles, i clarified that according to my information that is not the case for all zoophiles, rather only a subset of them. If you're saying that you're already aware of that, or accept that but still think that the rest are.....whatever you feel like describing them, then fine. Same as above.
My comment was clarifying on something that seemed like inaccurate information.
I don't really care if I'm generalizing. The sick people who rape women and children can claim the same...that they've been given some sort of consent.
That's not a fair comparison in my view. The subject of animal consent is something that is debated regarding this subject and something that is key to whether or not the sex between humans and animals should be considered rape.
I was clarifying that you were misrepresenting them by claiming that they're okay with taking advantage of animals. That is not the case as many of them are of the side which believes that animals can give consent. Human consent is not under dispute. So the comparison fails to note the complexity of the issue.
There's a sickness to this. If you want to make justifications for this, be my guest.
I clarified earlier my personal position on this and what are the things that i think would be the crux of the matter when it comes to determining whether or not sex with animals should be illegal.
What i'm doing here is addressing seemingly inconsistencies and invalid arguments that are used to unfairly portray some people and that are used to justify the illegal status and societal view towards zoophilia.
My aim here is not to justify, but to attempt to address the issue properly. It's been something that i'm unsure about for a while and i wanted to get to the bottom of it by discussing and debating it.
If I caught someone screwing my cat because he claimed that my cat mewling was "consent", I'd want the sick *******'s head examined and I'd want to press charges.
Again, feel free to feel anyway you'd like. But understand that i can't consider that as a valid argument.
Some things are just not okay.
I couldn't possibly disagree more. I can't think of one single thing that is 'just' not okay.