Could Noahs flood have killed all the dinosaurs ?

[gnostic]

according to waht carbon dating

Did I say anything about carbon dating?

 

[The_Evelyonian]

Including the copyright date?

 

[colaboy]

really so a hippo has a tail the size of a cedar tree..mmm you have seen some wierd looking hippos

Since Dinosaurs were huge, dangerous animals that roamed the land in their millions - it's a little patronising that you should get so picky about a tiny detail. And animal with a tail the "size of a cedar tree". I think if you met a dinosaur it would not be the tail that gets the mention.



Really all you have in the bible is just a couple of mentions of ambiguous animals (behemoth and something clearly a crocodile) with poetic descriptions and you are claiming that humans and dinosaurs shared the planet. In the bible much is made of dangerous animals like lions. They are mentioned frequently - despite not being particlularly native to this geographical area - and yet there's not a single story of "Daniel in the TREX den"; "David and Stegasaurus"; "Feeding of the five thousand with some bread and a allosaurus leg".

It's frustrating that you hold so much to a tiny metaphor - and yet are completely blind to the total lack of real data that could be construed to be an qualified description of dinosaurs.

 

[colaboy]

firstly so do you agree carbon dating gives false readings ?

job 40:15 - 24

15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones [are as] strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron.
19 He [is] the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his
sword to approach [unto him].
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him [with] their shadow; the willows of the brook
compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, [and] hasteth not: he trusteth that he
can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: [his] nose pierceth through snares

sounds exaclty like a dinosaur and job is one of the oldest books in the bible written just after the flood

crocodile, hippopotamus or elephant do not have a tail as big as a cedar tree - do you agree

I did not mention carbon dating but I did mention a whole array of animals which you seem to have ignored. Just like the bible.

 

[Father Heathen]

since nobody can tell why they all died - could the flood have killed them all at ounce ?

They all walked off the edge of the world.

 

[McBell]

They all walked off the edge of the world.

I doubt it.
I bet some of them were pushed....

Seriously though, I suspect that they all committed suicide after listening to Barney...
I mean, can you imagine having to listen to that 24 hours a day, everyday?

 

[tumbleweed41]

Yep, that explains it...

 

[markymark]

The impact scenario is the one best supported by the available evidence. The concentration of iridium in the K-T boundary, combined with the Chicxulub crater, is as close to a smoking gun as you're going to get.

but not proof still very much theory - correct

 

[Gjallarhorn]

but not proof still very much theory - correct

 

[The_Evelyonian]

but not proof

Proof is reserved for mathematics and alcohol.

still very much theory

What exactly do you think a theory is?

 

[McBell]

but not proof still very much theory - correct

Yes it is a theory.

but then, scientific theories are far better than wishful thinking any day of the week.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's a shame they don't.

 

[Father Heathen]

but not proof still very much theory - correct

Here, educate yourself before attempting to engage in debate: Scientific theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[The_Evelyonian]

Germs are just a theory!

 

[colaboy]

firstly so do you agree carbon dating gives false readings ?

job 40:15 - 24

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

sounds exaclty like a dinosaur and job is one of the oldest books in the bible written just after the flood

crocodile, hippopotamus or elephant do not have a tail as big as a cedar tree - do you agree

Actually it says here that "he moves his tail like a cedar" - it doesn't say it's as big as cedar. Cedars bend a particular way, so this is probably a reference to the shape - or should I say it's as likely to be a reference to shape as any thing else

Do you agree?

Heres what I would write if I came across a dinosaur:

12: He cometh fast, like a cheetah;
13: His teeth are as butchers knives
14: The land doeth .... arrrghhh!

 

[CynthiaCypher]

There's no mention of dinosaurs in the bible, or kangaroos, or panthers, koalas, polar bears, penguins, giant sloth, sabre tooth tiger, trilobite, giant tortoise, Woolley mammoth, etc. it seems that only animals know about in the middle east were saved by the ark. Or did Noah send one of his sons to Australia, Americas, north pole? It's just far too unreasonable and unlikely.

Did Noah save the penguins like those in Happy Feet?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Germs are just a theory!

Germs themselves are not a theory!

 

[McBell]

Germs themselves are not a theory!

Have you seen a germ?

 

[shawn001]

since nobody can tell why they all died - could the flood have killed them all at ounce ?

Wow, first of all there was no global flood for a fact. There are places in the Atacama desert in chile where it hasn't rained hard in 23 million years.

Second, there was a huge group of animals that lived for hundreds of millions of years before the dinosaurs that went extint in the Permian extintion that killed 95% of all life on earth thse animals were called the Pelycosaurs, Archosaurs, and Therapsids. They went extint by one of the largest volcanic events on earth called the Siberian traps, that spewed enough lava out to cover the entire 48 states 1000 feet deep. It stopped the oceans currents for millions of years. But this was BEFORE the dinosaurs existed.

Before the Dinosaurs - Pelycosaurs, Archosaurs and Therapsids

The dinosaurs ruled earth for around 180 million years!!!

There have been five mass extinction events throughout Earth's history:

1. The first great mass extinction event took place at the end of the Ordovician, when according to the fossil record, 60% of all genera of both terrestrial and marine life worldwide were exterminated.
2. 360 million years ago in the Late Devonian period, the environment that had clearly nurtured reefs for at least 13 million years turned hostile and the world plunged into the second mass extinction event.
3. The fossil record of the end Permian mass extinction reveals a staggering loss of life: perhaps 80–95% of all marine species went extinct. Reefs didn't reappear for about 10 million years, the greatest hiatus in reef building in all of Earth history.
4. The end Triassic mass extinction is estimated to have claimed about half of all marine invertebrates. Around 80% of all land quadrupeds also went extinct.
5. The end Cretaceous mass extinction 65 million years ago is famously associated with the demise of the dinosaurs. Virtually no large land animals survived. Plants were also greatly affected while tropical marine life was decimated. Global temperature was 6 to 14°C warmer than present with sea levels over 300 metres higher than current levels. At this time, the oceans flooded up to 40% of the continents.

Earth's five mass extinction events

Its also been confirmed
According to New Comprehensive Review, a Giant Meteorite Caused the Dinosaur Extinction

The most explicit look yet at the impact that wiped out more than half of all life on earth





According to New Comprehensive Review, a Giant Meteorite Caused the Dinosaur Extinction | Popular Science


The Chicxulub meteor crater was the FINAL NAIL in the dinosaurs coffin, even though they were under other stressors at the time.

Study: Single Meteorite Impact Killed Dinosaurs
Study: Single Meteorite Impact Killed Dinosaurs | LiveScience


It's Official: An Asteroid Killed the Dinosaurs

"Generally speaking, scientific theories are confirmed or discredited by objective, physical evidence, not by the majority vote of a distinguished panel of geologists and paleontologists. Still, there's something to be said for the recent "ruling" handed down by a panel of 41 international experts about the cause of the global extinction of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. The panel weighed the evidence for (and against) a meteorite impact on the Yucatan Peninsula and/or a series of massive volcanic eruptions in India at around the same time, give or take a couple hundred thousand years."

It's Official: An Asteroid Killed the Dinosaurs


There are no big animal fossils above the KT boundry that was left by the impact. It sent a wave 1000 feet high from the tip of the Yucatan to Montana and was the force of 100 million megatons. It effected the entire planet.

 

[Revoltingest]

Germs themselves are not a theory!

Germ theory of disease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Perhaps you should edit the article to correct it, eh?