I don't think it was wrong for Philip to ask the Ethiopian official a question at Acts 8v30. I don't think it was wrong for the official to ask questions at verses 30,34.
I don't think it was wrong of Jesus to ask questions at Matthew 7vs3,4.
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Who IS "The Only TRUE God"- as Jesus put it?
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I don't think it was wrong for Philip to ask the Ethiopian official a question at Acts 8v30. I don't think it was wrong for the official to ask questions at verses 30,34.
I don't think it was wrong of Jesus to ask questions at Matthew 7vs3,4.
Dude look up your own answers and share them. I am going to tell you now, you or no one else on here are going to ask me a zillion questions and expect me to spend time and effort for you. I am dilligently studying for my own comments and can defend them. Rarely do I ask folk a bunch of questions. And you not Philip nor Jesus.
Scripture testifies that Jesus Christ is the True God and Eternal Life !
For the Apostle John wrote these words under inspiration:
1 Jn 5:
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true,even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
For the Apostle John wrote these words under inspiration:
1 Jn 5:
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true,even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
No it doesn't.
Your interpretation of an English sentence here needs work if you can't grasp the understanding of who is who.
And we (the faithful) know that the Son (Yeshua) of God (his god YHWH) is come, and hath given us (the faithful) an understanding, that we (the faithful) may know him (YHWH) that is true, and we (the faithful) are in him (YHWH - see John 17:21) that is true, even in his (YHWH's) son Yeshua Ha Mashiach. This (YHWH) is the true god, and eternal life.
They are completely separate entities as your bible describes. This is why the biblical Yeshua, in his prayer to his god said.....
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know you, the only true god, and Yeshua Ha-Mashiach, whom you have sent.
Plain and simple and very easy to understand your bible. It's an easy read and no over complicated interpretations are needed....
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1st Thess [1vs9,10] mentions turning to God from idols to serve the living and true God "AND" to wait for his [God's] Son from heaven, whom he [God] raised from the dead........
Jesus did not even resurrect himself, but God resurrected Jesus. -Acts 2v32
So which verse there says Jesus is not the True God ? I showed you a scripture that says it plainly, that Jesus Christ is the True God and Eternal Life, and you respond with this ? Are you kidding me ?
Shermana
Heretic
That only works if you ignore 5:19.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
No defense was needed. The verse was plain and simple. You simply read something into the text that was obviously not there. My interpretation, unlike yours, was irrefutable...as indicated by your response.
Who said I ignored 5:19 ? Did I state I ignored it ? The problem is people ignoring 5:
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Listen up "NOOB"......
How about you try not to be so disrespectful..?
You said
And I actually countered your argument here http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2501102-post804.html and laid out who's who in the verse and it had nothing to do with Yeshua being the ("true god and eternal life"). He explicitly said his god was while he was praying to his god. Not only does it show that in his prayer but even in the verse you provided.
waitasec
Veteran Member
1 Jn 5:20 still stands as True, its a Apostolic Testimony that Jesus the Son is being recognized as the True God and Eternall Life. 1 Jn 5:
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
John uses the conjunction kai which means :
Now He had Just stated earlier in the epistle that Jesus Christ was that Eternal Life with the Father, notice 1 Jn 1:
2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us )
Now He merely combines the Two at the end of His Epistle, designating Him both the True God and Eternal Life.
Its basically the same thing He did in His epistle in John 1:1-2
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God.
Either we accept the plain teaching of scripture or we do not.
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
John uses the conjunction kai which means :
- and, also, even, indeed, but
Now He had Just stated earlier in the epistle that Jesus Christ was that Eternal Life with the Father, notice 1 Jn 1:
2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us )
Now He merely combines the Two at the end of His Epistle, designating Him both the True God and Eternal Life.
Its basically the same thing He did in His epistle in John 1:1-2
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God.
Either we accept the plain teaching of scripture or we do not.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
But it's not what the biblical Yeshua supposedly said at John 17:3
"And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true god, and Yeshua Ha Mashiac whom you have sent."
If you are to accept a plain teaching then wouldn't it be better to have it come for Yeshua himself?
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Shermana
Heretic
The JWs have the right version of John 1:1, (and Acts 10:33), "And the word was a god".
Daniel Wallace says it should be "Divine" and I think it possibly can, but the context is to show separation and to demonstrate ideas similar to Philo's concept of Logos which were mainstay in Greek Anatolia.
Angels are called "gods" such as in Psalms 136:2, or even "sons of God". (Angels are called Sons of God...wait....I thought Jesus is Son of God....)
It seems you are intent on ignoring 1 John 5:19 which clearly defines the context of 5:20. You have to include the whole passage into each verse for consideration.
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Shermana
Heretic
So you're saying that you can take verse 20 and not even concern yourself with the context of 19. You're welcome to selectively cherry pick as you like. As for the JW version, it doesn't matter if you like what they say or not are or one, they're not the only group that has "A god" as the translation of John 1:1.