What leads you to believe that any of us did not?
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Do you accept the Bible? If not, explain why.
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What leads you to believe that any of us did not?
KnightOwl
Member
I find much of that doctrine to be appalling. I find it more appalling that people think I should follow it instead of my own sense of ethics and morality which appear to be head and shoulders above those described in the Bible. I for instance could care less what the Canaanites were doing as long as they weren't bothering me. I would prefer to spread goodness amongst my own people and slaughtering a bunch of sinners who occupy land I want doesn't sound like a good way to do that. I think I could edit the Bible taking the good parts and create a useful pamphlet for how to live a good life, but why sift through stuff like Lot's daughters getting him drunk so they could have sex with him to get to that stuff when I already know these things from other sources like common sense?
Kami Servant
All is divine
Not only is the Bible a load of horrific nonsense, so are doctines in general, which focus on controlling every aspect of human life.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Let me get this. You're trying to use a claim made by the Bible, to try to demonstrate that the Bible is true? Tell me, do you see any problem with that? Anything jump out at you?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
What makes you think we haven't? Of all the people in this thread, the one who seems to have given the Bible the least careful thought and consideration is you.
I assume you did the same with all of the holy texts that you reject? How many of them did you actually read before deciding they were fiction?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Ah, no problem then - I gave it careful thought and consideration before rightly dismissing it as fiction.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
As a former Southern Baptist Deacon and Youth Director, I can honestly say I have given the entire Bible careful thought and consideration before reasonably concluding that the vast majority was mythology.
I've read some of the books of the Biblical Canon. Some of them, such as Ecclesiastes and Proverbs, contain great wisdom. Others, like parts of the Torah and much of what Paul wrote, do not.
I approach Scriptures as guidebooks, and I treat the Bible the same way.
I do not dismiss a book just because it's not what it's followers and the traditions most commonly associated with it say it is. (I've seen no indication whatsoever that the Bible is the inerrant word of God, and I've seen plenty of indications that it's not.) For what it is, the books of the Biblical canon do have much to offer in terms of spirituality and ethics. At the same time, that does not mean it's infallible. I've yet to come across a single book that's absolutely infallible.
I approach Scriptures as guidebooks, and I treat the Bible the same way.
I do not dismiss a book just because it's not what it's followers and the traditions most commonly associated with it say it is. (I've seen no indication whatsoever that the Bible is the inerrant word of God, and I've seen plenty of indications that it's not.) For what it is, the books of the Biblical canon do have much to offer in terms of spirituality and ethics. At the same time, that does not mean it's infallible. I've yet to come across a single book that's absolutely infallible.
The Vedas are not one text; they are many.
I don't accept it as any of those things. Regardless of how it's packaged, I don't find it valuable apart from its usefulness as a window into an ancient world.
I have indeed given it careful thought, as I have with several other religious scriptures. I haven't accepted any of the scriptures I've read as a whole, although parts of them I have accepted as very useful and valuable. The Bible is not one of those texts; I reject nearly all of it as not being valuable (and in several ways, being harmful). There's probably 5% or so of the Bible I find to be valuable to a certain extent.
Jacksnyte
Reverend
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Accept it as what? I accept the original manuscripts from which it was compiled as being the inspired word of God. I accept it as being a reliable and valuable tool to help us understand who God is and what He expects of us. I do not accept it as a complete record of all of God's interactions with humanity and I do not accept it as letter-perfect, since man has also had a hand in transcribing and translating it (and we all know that man is not perfect).
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Witchy<>Woman
New Member
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I'm assuming you've actually read the Koran, and not just repeating what someone has told you. Am I right? I haven't actually read it myself, but I'd like to sometime. I think that's the only way to really know what it has to say. Wouldn't you agree?
Well, I agree.
Alceste
Vagabond
But why should we? I could say that people should give Harry Potter "careful thought and consideration before wrongly dismissing it as fiction." Does that mean that Harry Potter deserves such consideration? Is there even a chance that it be a true story? It gives reasons why muggles wouldn't know about that world, after all.
Why should we think that the bible is worthy of such attention, but not any other fictional book in the library?
Cue appeal to popularity.
Alceste
Vagabond
I grew up going to church, sang in the choir, went to Sunday school, church camp, all the bake sales and socials, and played the requisite parts in all the pageants. My father was a church youth leader and a candidate for the ministry. I've read the bible from cover to cover. Never in all this time did anyone suggest to me that the bible was anything other than a book, or that anything in it should be taken to be literally true, and never did it seem to me to be written by anybody other than ordinary, fallible men.
Anyway, after all that, I can honestly say the Tao Te Ching kicks the bible's butt as a book of insight and wisdom in absolutely every respect.
KnightOwl
Member
Zhakir
Peace&Tolerance
No i don't. It's because
* I have never found any proof that its authentic, or from God.
* wrong things about God and his messenger.
* Morals, sexism, racism,murder,rape,salvation idology.
* Scientific errors, contradictions with what we know for sure.
* Myths.
* It contradicts itself.
Not meaning to hurt anyone's feelings though, sorry if i did.