UK general election May 2015

[Rick O'Shez]

I just had a personal letter from Ed Millipede, following the one from David Cameroon. So what to do? Should I invite them both round for a cup of tea and start a bidding war?

 

[philbo]

I just had a personal letter from Ed Millipede, following the one from David Cameroon. So what to do? Should I invite them both round for a cup of tea and start a bidding war lace it with polonium?

FIFY

 

[Ultimatum]

I just had a personal letter from Ed Millipede, following the one from David Cameroon. So what to do? Should I invite them both round for a cup of tea and start a bidding war?

I had a big, multi-page poster from the Conservatives. Things like "the economy is doing well" and "we promise an EU referendum" made me lightly chuckle.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

FIFY

I could get them to do some mud wrestling I suppose.

 

[philbo]

I could get them to do some mud wrestling I suppose.

With Eric Pickles?

 

[Ultimatum]

Green manifesto has been published (https://www.greenparty.org.uk/assets/files/manifesto/Green_Party_2015_General_Election_Manifesto.pdf)

"Our manifesto is a bold plan to create a more equal, more democratic society while doing our part to heal the planet, which has been severely damaged by the effects of an unstable, unsustainable economy."

Holding a green obsession eventually leads to fuel poverty for many. That doesn't sound very equal to me. Also, it makes me chuckle when Natalie Bennett uses the word "equality"--as she clearly supports discrimination tactics for women in the workplace.

"The austerity experiment has failed..."

Yes, let's just borrow loads of money, instead(!)--the Greens plan to borrow double the amount that the Coalition planned for.

Also, this manifesto clearly shows a hatred toward capitalism by vilifying businesses and wealthy individuals.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

With Eric Pickles?

Fat Daddy!

 

[Altfish]

Green manifesto has been published (https://www.greenparty.org.uk/assets/files/manifesto/Green_Party_2015_General_Election_Manifesto.pdf)

"Our manifesto is a bold plan to create a more equal, more democratic society while doing our part to heal the planet, which has been severely damaged by the effects of an unstable, unsustainable economy."

Holding a green obsession eventually leads to fuel poverty for many. That doesn't sound very equal to me. Also, it makes me chuckle when Natalie Bennett uses the word "equality"--as she clearly supports discrimination tactics for women in the workplace.

"The austerity experiment has failed..."

Yes, let's just borrow loads of money, instead(!)--the Greens plan to borrow double the amount that the Coalition planned for.

Also, this manifesto clearly shows a hatred toward capitalism by vilifying businesses and wealthy individuals.

But that is green politics, the only thing I don't understand is their transport policy that is incoherent. They won't get in, so there is no need to 'balance the books' just publicise your policies.
No one else worries about them, why are Kippers bothering with them?

 

[Ultimatum]

[QUOTE="Altfish, post: 4249309, member: 53532] They won't get in, so there is no need to 'balance the books' just publicise your policies.
No one else worries about them, why are Kippers bothering with them?[/QUOTE]

So just because they won't "get in" (even though they have an MP) means that they are able to make uncosted promises?
I think you'll find that anyone who is really into politics will read and criticize other party manifestos, actually.

 

[Altfish]

[QUOTE="Altfish, post: 4249309, member: 53532] They won't get in, so there is no need to 'balance the books' just publicise your policies.
No one else worries about them, why are Kippers bothering with them?

So just because they won't "get in" (even though they have an MP) means that they are able to make uncosted promises?
I think you'll find that anyone who is really into politics will read and criticize other party manifestos, actually.[/QUOTE]
If I read it correctly, they are raising the starting age of school children to 7; that'll save an absolute fortune (I don't agree with it btw) that should fund most other promises.

 

[Ultimatum]

So just because they won't "get in" (even though they have an MP) means that they are able to make uncosted promises?
I think you'll find that anyone who is really into politics will read and criticize other party manifestos, actually.

If I read it correctly, they are raising the starting age of school children to 7; that'll save an absolute fortune (I don't agree with it btw) that should fund most other promises.[/QUOTE]

How much of a fortune are we talking here?

 

[Altfish]

Don't know but we currently start kids at 4; so 3 years saved out of about 12; that's about 25% of the education budget.
I know it's not as simple as that but it must be significant.

 

[Altfish]

At last!!!

A UKIP policy I almost agree with...
We’ll tighten up regulations on religious slaughter, promises Ukip | The Jewish Chronicle

 

[Altfish]

Latest predictions...

Conservatives 284
Labour 273
SNP 43
Liberal Democrats 26
DUP 9
Plaid Cymru 3
SDLP 2
Greens 1
UKIP 1
Other 8

 

[Altfish]

Tories 280
Labour 275
SNP 43
Lib Dem 27
DUP 8
Pl Cymru 4
SDLP 3
Greens 1
UKIP 1
Other 8

 

[Ultimatum]

Did anyone see the leader's debate the other night? What do we think of the lack of comprehension of the principle of demand and supply by the socialist-type parties? What about Miliband's blatant lies about UKIP's view on the NHS?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Did anyone see the leader's debate the other night? What do we think of the lack of comprehension of the principle of demand and supply by the socialist-type parties?

It looks to me like most of the parties are very uncomfortable on the immigration issue and use straw-man arguments like the NHS workforce. Clearly the housing issue is one of supply and demand, though increased demand isn't just about immigration, it's also about an increase in the number of people wanting to live alone.

I'm not comfortable with the prospect of an SNP tail wagging a Labour dog.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

It looks to me like most of the parties are very uncomfortable on the immigration issue and use straw-man arguments like the NHS workforce. Clearly the housing issue is one of supply and demand, though increased demand isn't just about immigration, it's also about an increase in the number of people wanting to live alone.

I'm not comfortable with the prospect of an SNP tail wagging a Labour dog.

Well you can blame Westminster politicians for love-bombing & threatening us into staying. Since we're still in the Union we fully intend to make our voice heard.

 

[Altfish]

I love Scotland (apart from when it comes to football, have you ever watched an England game in Scotland, the hatred is frightening) and spend much time up there but the referendum has left a bad taste in the mouth. I'm almost embarrassed to admit I'm English when up there, yet I was very much pro-Independence as many northern English were.
Labour got it badly wrong and it is costing them badly; they should have 'sat on the fence' saying something like, "We do not want you to leave but respect your right to vote to do so"

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Well you can blame Westminster politicians for love-bombing & threatening us into staying. Since we're still in the Union we fully intend to make our voice heard.

It'll be like William Wallace invading England again.