atheism converts

[Desert Snake]

I am actually rather offended that people think semantics is a waste of time. If it weren't for semantic clarity discussion would devolve just as that one did. People can't simply assume that what they say is appropriate for their audience or that they are using a word correctly.

...semantic rant over. Continue your confusion.

Theres no confusion here, but what exactly does 'value' mean etc.
The fact that both 'value' and truth' are subjective here, in relation to the book of Genesis, makes that OTHER word definition discussion inapplicable to the conversation.

 

[Willamena]

But then you say that value is derived from truth, but in the case of figurative truth truth is derived from value.

How do you figure?

 

[Willamena]

Were you a theist before?

I came to these forums with only a rudimentary understanding of god and a belief that you were either theist or atheist. In clarifying that understanding, I genuinely became theist, atheist, non-theist, and none of the above. It's safe to say that I was affirmed in my atheism at the same time I was affirmed in my theism.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

How do you figure?

Say someone comes to the conclusion that the universe is peaceful and happy by looking at a field of flowers. There is no truth to this. Everything is in competition for resources or wholly indifferent to our existence. One must value the "truth" they find beforehand before it can be considered truth.

 

[Willamena]

Say someone comes to the conclusion that the universe is peaceful and happy by looking at a field of flowers. There is no truth to this.

But does this represent figurative truth? The figure of speech can give us a truth that is meaningful, such as the broken heart or wracking our brain for an idea.

Everything is in competition for resources or wholly indifferent to our existence. One must value the "truth" they find beforehand before it can be considered truth.

It is pretty.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

But does this represent figurative truth? The figure of speech can give us a truth that is meaningful, such as the broken heart or wracking our brain for an idea.

Of course it is figurative, but the truth it supports isn't actually true in this case, as in Genesis.

 

[Uberpod]

what Author helped you decide and/or reaffirmed your atheism?

None. I have never read a book on the subject. I believed in God as a child and (as far as I am concerned) I grew out of it by sixteen and have never had any reason to ever regress.