leibowde84
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LOL ... This is nothing but circular reasoning ... and incoherent at best.There is only one fact, and that is the Source of all things. Everything else is opinion. That is how I know it is fact.... haha
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LOL ... This is nothing but circular reasoning ... and incoherent at best.There is only one fact, and that is the Source of all things. Everything else is opinion. That is how I know it is fact.... haha
I want you to be honest. You haven't provided sufficient evidence to make your claim indisputable. Thus, it cannot be considered fact. It is subjective, and, thus, cannot be fact.No, that is not what I am saying. That was the point.
Know your scriptures before you speak of such things. We are all told to speak as though speaking the very words of God.
You don't understand Grace my friend, no matter how many times I tell you. If someone knows, it is fact. To you it is an opinion perhaps, but not to me. Do you seriously want someone to lie about something just because you can't see it?
How on earth could it not be fact. If I wrote it and saw it, you are saying it is a belief but not fact. I can't see where you are now. Presumably you only believe you are there then until someone comes into verify it. .. hahaIt cannot be fact unless it is indisputable. Thus, you MUST show this certainty you claim to have with evidence. Otherwise, it is merely your belief that it is fact, as it is still in dispute right here.
You speak as a man.LOL ... This is nothing but circular reasoning ... and incoherent at best.
Where in scripture does it say that we are aloud to speak for God and put words in his mouth?No, that is not what I am saying. That was the point.
Know your scriptures before you speak of such things. We are all told to speak as though speaking the very words of God.
You don't understand Grace my friend, no matter how many times I tell you. If someone knows, it is fact. To you it is an opinion perhaps, but not to me. Do you seriously want someone to lie about something just because you can't see it?
This, again, is incoherent. What does this even mean?You speak as a man.
Yes ... subjective reality is confirmed by the experiences of others.How on earth could it not be fact. If I wrote it and saw it, you are saying it is a belief but not fact. I can't see where you are now. Presumably you only believe you are there then until someone comes into verify it. .. haha
I will write it one last time for tonight, though I know it is pointless.I want you to be honest. You haven't provided sufficient evidence to make your claim indisputable. Thus, it cannot be considered fact. It is subjective, and, thus, cannot be fact.
Haah... so until they come in, your room does not exist! That is laughable. So what of the note exmaple.Yes ... subjective reality is confirmed by the experiences of others.
Because subjective experience is so often unreliable, it is a belief until verified. This is especially true for supernatural concepts like God.I will write it one last time for tonight, though I know it is pointless.
If you see something in front of your eyes and you know it is there, such as a shape of a cloud, which then is gone, was that fact, fiction, or a belief? You tell me.
Yes. Personal, subjective experience has been shown many times to be unreliable, especially in this context. Facts must be verifiable by others, or else it could be an illusion.Haah... so until they come in, your room does not exist! That is laughable. So what of the note exmaple.
But, also, you would have to be more specific as to what you mean by "in the room".Haah... so until they come in, your room does not exist! That is laughable. So what of the note exmaple.
Haven't you ever had a dream that seemed real?Haah... so until they come in, your room does not exist! That is laughable. So what of the note exmaple.
My point is in the name of equality men are exploiting women in the West, they leave children to be responsibility of the mothers, and the mothers have to become bread-earners as well as the child-carers.
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My point is in the name of equality men are exploiting women in the West, they leave children to be responsibility of the mothers, and the mothers have to become bread-earners as well as the child-carers.
First off, how does one need to write something like you did above that I highlighted? You don't know what constitutes abuse? And how in the world can you, with any degree conscience, say that abuse is the fault of the person who is being abused? That is what is meant by saying its not one sided? Or perhaps you think I deserved my nose being broken because his dinner was not what he liked? Or I folded the towels wrong. How can you explain this to the rest of us so it does not demean those of us who lived through it?'Disgusting, Offensive'? No, I don't think so. I think we might make wiser choices and bring up and look after people better as a society if we thought something was wrong however. Abuse, whatever it might be, is not usually onesided.
You said....I am not someone saying that no. But if you want to discuss it, then fine. But don't label me with things that are not true.
are you actually claiming now you didn't write that?Abuse, whatever it might be, is not usually onesided.
I'm not sure why you are attributing this to equality.
It is also important to point out that your figures are for the USA. "The west" includes lots of other places. I suspect the numbers are different in Sweden. The USA is an unusual combination of personal freedom and religion.
Tom