Men and Women

[Kfox]

So the "natural" rule is sometimes broken?

Yes.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

So if a person is born with 7 fingers on each hand due to Polydactyly, is it your view that this is perfectly normal, and no need for treatment? If so, why do you suppose the medical community has determined Polydactyly to be an deformity/syndrome?

It is not a given that for all disorders that a person has, that person has to become normal to have a good enough life.

I have a mental disorder and I am not normal, but I have a good enough life as not normal. The problem is people like you who think we all have to become normal.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yes.

I would like evidence for the fact, that it is a rule.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Ah, I understand now, thanks.

Almost every categorization scheme suffers from rare exceptions. That does not mean the scheme is wrong. The definition I provided is overwhelmingly correct, and I agree that exceptions exist.

Yeah, you really like your subjective words.
You are not the only way to make sense of what matters. The rest of us can just do it subjectively differently.

 

[Yerda]

You are unclear on the idea of biological sex? really?

I majored in molecular biology at uni. (admittedly that was a long time ago )

But this seems like a solid, workable definition:

The Sex Chromosomes you are born with decide. If you have a "y" Chromosome, you are a man, if you have only "x" you are woman

Is it fair to say that "x is a man" and "x is a male" are identical statements for you two? Gender is just another word for biological sex?

 

[McBell]

The Sex Chromosomes you are born with decide. If you have a "y" Chromosome, you are a man, if you have only "x" you are woman

Only if you conflate the word "man" with the word "male" and the word "woman" with the word "female".

 

[McBell]

In the truest sense Male and Female are based on reproductive capacity.

Does this mean that those who are infertile are neither?
Or both?

 

[icehorse]

Gender is just another word for biological sex?

We've been discussing that question on other, current threads. IMO "gender" is poorly and inconsistently defined, but these days it's mostly NOT the same thing as biological sex.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

We've been discussing that question on other, current threads. IMO "gender" is poorly and inconsistently defined, but these days it's mostly NOT the same thing as biological sex.

You know what IMO means, right?

 

[icehorse]

You know what IMO means, right?

Yerda addressed a question to me and I responded, what on earth is your problem?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yerda addressed a question to me and I responded, what on earth is your problem?

My problem is that you are using your opinion. That is a poor choice in my understanding and a sign you are a bad human.

I want you to admit that you are in part subjective and have an individual understanding of asepcts of gender and harm. Just like the rest of us.
Then we can move on. As long as you in effect act as if you are right, we won't get anywhere.

 

[Stevicus]

 

[Yerda]

We've been discussing that question on other, current threads. IMO "gender" is poorly and inconsistently defined, but these days it's mostly NOT the same thing as biological sex.

It's not something I've ever been able to wrap my head around fully. I had never thought about gender identity at all until I watched a Louis Theroux documentary about trans kids a few years ago.

 

[Yerda]

Real men just rip the hair from their faces with their bare hands.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

It's not something I've ever been able to wrap my head around fully. I had never thought about gender identity at all until I watched a Louis Theroux documentary about trans kids a few years ago.

One step at a time.
Can you understand the concept of neurodiversity?

 

[Stevicus]

Real men just rip the hair from their faces with their bare hands.

That was primitive man, but modern man uses modern technology, made by men.

 

[Yerda]

That was primitive man, but modern man uses modern technology, made by men.

What a time to be alive it is

 

[Yerda]

One step at a time.
Can you understand the concept of neurodiversity?

Yep. Kinda. I'm aware that others experience a different world than I.

That reminds me, my partner has aphantasia. That is much stranger than any gender identity to me.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yep. Kinda. I'm aware that others experience a different world than I.

That reminds me, my partner has aphantasia. That is much stranger than any gender identity to me.

I have that too, aphantasia. I don't even have an inner picture of how my wife looks. But that is how I work.

Gender is the same. It is a variation in an indiviudal brain.

 

[The Hammer]

The Sex Chromosomes you are born with decide. If you have a "y" Chromosome, you are a man, if you have only "x" you are woman

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