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That is both a non sequitur and a presumption. It is cleary offensive to some Christians.logos said:Xmas is not offensive to Christians insofar as X is the Greek equivalent to C. It is merely shorthand for Christmas.
A couple of suggestions: (a) don't shout, and (b) learn what the term 'secular' means.Ronald said:Both are SECULAR, neither are Biblical.
:help:Ronald said:Before I am chastized by Christians, I am aware of the account in Luke the day is in honor of.
You probably meant "Yeshua bar Yoseph".Ronald said:The birth of Jesus/Yeshua ben Joseph, ...
First of all, I meant what Sunstone said insofar as it is Greek for "Chi."Deut. 32.8 said:That is both a non sequitur and a presumption. It is cleary offensive to some Christians.
Sorry, you are offended by my writings, you could put me on "Ignore"Deut. 32.8 said:A couple of suggestions: (a) don't shout, and (b) learn what the term 'secular' means.
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You probably meant "Yeshua bar Yoseph".
Yes, I know.logos said:First of all, I meant what Sunstone said insofar as it is Greek for "Chi."
By my logic? I never suggested that those who find XMas offensive are being logical. But neither is it logical (or even coherent) to suggest that a term or phrase is not offensive because of its dictionary meaning or etymology, e.g.,logos said:If it is offensive, then by your logic, the PX, ...
So do I, also bar(Aramaic). Unfortunately, when you yell ...Ronald said:I do know secular, also ben(Hebrew), ...
You're most welcome. :tsk: Yeshua bar Yosef (or, if you're a perfectionist, and given his purported roots in Galilee), Yeshu' bar Yosef.Ronald said:Thank you.:162: Yeshua ben Yoseph.
And I'm fine with you being the way you are. Thanks for not shouting.Ronald said:I am fine being a little dim.
Well, it is due in large part to confusion by those that hold that Xmas is offensive. They feel as though Xmas takes "Christ out of Christmas," yet the X still represents Christ. So, for those that believe that Xmas takes Christ out of Christmas realize it does not, rather, it is "shorthand" for the same wordDeut. 32.8 said:Yes, I know.
By my logic? I never suggested that those who find XMas offensive are being logical. But neither is it logical (or even coherent) to suggest that a term or phrase is not offensive because of its dictionary meaning or etymology, e.g.,"Colored People" is offensive to many while "People of Color" is not.What is perceived as offensive is a function of the perceived intent of the communication: those who accept XMAS as a benign abbreviation take no offense while those who view it as disrespectful take another view.