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X-MEN movies are Gay AGENDA?
- Thread starter Nada
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As I said, it doesn't surprise me that the X-Men comics and films could be construed in this way. However, I am a fan of the comics and the films and identify with the X-Men in a certain way as an outcast of mundane and traditional society, as a Setian/Satanist and practitioner of the Black Arts. The accounts of pedaphilia in Hollywood did disturb me, but were not surprising. I think Hollywood has indeed become a symbol for how corrupt and degenerate modern secular/mundane society has become. Nothing is considered sacred anymore.
Father Heathen
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I did watch the video. It implies that if someone who is a homosexual does some bad things, then it was because he was homosexual (but what of heterosexual rapist and molesters?). If he's indeed guilty of those accusation then he needs to be locked away, but it has nothing to do with homosexuality or some stupid comic book movie.
Your video also implies that drawling parallels and using allegories to illustrate a point is somehow manipulative deception.
It's funny how religious people think that any form of entertainment that acknowledges that homosexuals exist, much less suggests that they should be treated with dignity, is part of some spooky conspiracy to turn kids gay, as if that were possible.
Your video also implies that drawling parallels and using allegories to illustrate a point is somehow manipulative deception.
It's funny how religious people think that any form of entertainment that acknowledges that homosexuals exist, much less suggests that they should be treated with dignity, is part of some spooky conspiracy to turn kids gay, as if that were possible.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Even if the X-men movies were created as an allegory for the struggles that homosexuals face in society, so what?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Again, if he is guilty of raping kids, then he needs to be locked up. However, true or not, what does any of it have to do with the silly x-men movies? By your logic, because priests have molested children, the gospel of Christ should therefore be flushed down the toilet.
Father Heathen
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The notion is that if something suggests that homosexuals are anything other than deranged degenerates out to prey upon your kids, then it's clear proof that it's part of some vast conspiracy to cover up the fact that homosexuals are deranged degenerates out to prey on your kids.
If your kid sees a positive portrayal of a gay person, your kid will magically and instantaneously become gay themselves.
What is more convincing than seeing a baby seal argue on behalf of gay folk?
Wirey
Fartist
Join the club! Get it? Club?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
They only make movies that people will pay to see. So its hard to blame them.
Wirey
Fartist
Gay people loan children money to go see them. I saw the read out on my 'Gaydar'. Don't you know nuffin'?
Obviously, movies, books, celebrities are tools to promote cultural change. They'd be stupid to not be aware and make use of it. If I was producing a fictional movie or writing a book it's going to be based somewhat on my world view. I may either consciously or unconsciously promote that.
Almost all of the movies I see promote some kind of cultural view. I guess I have to accept this is news to some folks.
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Thanks.
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Ok.Thanks for commenting.
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Ok.Thanks for assuming my logic.
gsa
Well-Known Member
The Egan lawsuit was not only dropped, his (former) attorneys apologized for bringing the lawsuits against some of the defendants and paid them millions of dollars as part of a settlement:
The former lawyers for Michael Egan, who accused several Hollywood figures of shocking sex abuse last year, have issued apologies to two of the accused, Garth Ancier and David A. Neuman, and paid a seven-figure settlement to both.
“I sincerely apologize for bringing lawsuits against you on behalf of my former client Michael Egan,” Jeff Herman wrote in letter to Ancier and Neuman, as obtained by theWrap.
Singer has been plagued by controversy because he has a known thing for young guys; of age, but late teens and early twenties. With respect to Singer in particular, although these allegations followed 1997 allegations involving inappropriate requests of youth on the set of Apt Pupil. But that was thoroughly investigated by law enforcement, and the civil suit was also dismissed. And he stupidly tried to settle this case last year (for pennies, considering his net worth and the nature of the allegations) before it was withdrawn after Egan's attorneys withdrew from representation. A separate lawsuit that was filed after Egan's was also voluntarily withdrawn shortly after it was filed, and Singer's co-defendant in both cases moved to dismiss the second lawsuit as well. It was clear that Egan had concocted this story, given that his new allegations contradicted deposition testimony related to actual sexual abuse from the late 1990s. He filed suit in Hawaii, because the statute of limitations had been lifted temporarily for child sexual abuse civil suits, but in his deposition he denied having gone to Hawaii, which was inconsistent with his complaint.
Egan has since been indicted on federal wire fraud and securities charges:
Papers claim that from 2007 to 2012, Egan, 32, “executed a scheme to defraud victims” by promising to fund “holiday themed attractions,” land development deals and TV shows with investors’ money, but never did.
The suit says Egan provided forged bank account and other documents falsely claiming he had millions.
Instead, he used the ill-gotten funds to pay personal expenses such as “rent, groceries, restaurants, medical bills and pet care.”
Now, victims of child sexual abuse (or any form of sexual abuse) can have psychological problems, and subsequently, legal problems. So perhaps this is not as damning and suggestive of his ulterior motive as it appears. Moreover, Hollywood has a terrible record on this (Roman Polanski, Victor Salva, the list is fairly long). It was the subject of a recent documentary, An Open Secret, and while the director gives undue credence to Egan's allegations (in my opinion) she also did the documentary Deliver Us From Evil, which deals with RCC sexual abuse, and a number of the cases she deals with in her Hollywood documentary are verified.
As for Corey Feldman's accusations, I think that they are far more credible than Egan's, but that is not saying much. He apparently reported this back in 1993 when police were investigating Michael Jackson (Feldman denies any abuse on Jackson's part; he used the example to distinguish Jackson from what he knew about sexual predators based on his own experiences), and named his abusers (there was apparently no follow up investigation, which is disturbing but not altogether surprising, particularly if he named people with industry name recognition). Certainly, the idea that Corey Haim was raped by Martin Weiss, a talent manager, is believable, given what we know about the latter (who pled guilty decades later to child sexual abuse). Somewhat disturbingly, Feldman also presents Haim as an enthusiastic participant at the time. But there is a fairly consistent narrative here, emerging publicly beginning in 2008. The mother of Haim corroborates some of it as well. Given that these are not really high profile individuals, I won't link to the actors names that are believed to be behind the pseudonyms, but I think it is fairly clear who Feldman names in his book. Note that the actual evidence does not suggest that this is part of the power elite in Hollywood, diminishing the fairly incredulous claim that a monolithic Hollywood engine fuels child sexual abuse.
If I had to guess where most of it was coming from, I'd say the talent procurement people. If there is one consistency that emerges, it is that these are people being entrusted with children. The cases that have revealed actual child sexual abuse often involve lower level participants in the industry. The most damning thing that can be said about Hollywood on this score is that it is fairly indifferent to the well being of child actors, particularly those who are not successful. Many of the men profiled in Amy Berg’s documentary are talent managers, not producers, directors or actors. There are some exceptions of course: Stephen Collins,
the star of 7th Heaven who admitted to molesting underage girls, Roman Polanski and Victor Salva mentioned above, and others. The most damning thing that can be said about Hollywood in those cases is that it still employs them, notwithstanding the controversy. After directing the very creepy Clownhouse (a horror film about killer clowns that freaked out yours truly as a child when he snuck a peak at it), it was revealed that Salva had molested one of the child actors. Yet after he was released from prison, he was tapped to do the creepy-for-different-reasons Powder, and later the cult hit Jeepers Creepers. What makes Salva’s case particularly disturbing is that his movies evoke fairly creepy pederastic imagery and themes, given his background. R Kelly is similarly creepy, notwithstanding his acquittal, given that there’s fairly strong evidence of an illegal underage marriage and astonishingly violent sexual misconduct
And one of the accused, Garth Ancier (who received an apology and a settlement from Egan's attorneys), actually filed a countersuit, which was (as against Egan's attorneys) settled in his favor, and the suit was against Egan as well as his attorneys, which is unusual. He alleged that it was basically a gay shakedown, and as some articles reporting the cases noted, this particular attorney representing Egan had a fairly rough recent history of ethical violations.
The former lawyers for Michael Egan, who accused several Hollywood figures of shocking sex abuse last year, have issued apologies to two of the accused, Garth Ancier and David A. Neuman, and paid a seven-figure settlement to both.
“I sincerely apologize for bringing lawsuits against you on behalf of my former client Michael Egan,” Jeff Herman wrote in letter to Ancier and Neuman, as obtained by theWrap.
Singer has been plagued by controversy because he has a known thing for young guys; of age, but late teens and early twenties. With respect to Singer in particular, although these allegations followed 1997 allegations involving inappropriate requests of youth on the set of Apt Pupil. But that was thoroughly investigated by law enforcement, and the civil suit was also dismissed. And he stupidly tried to settle this case last year (for pennies, considering his net worth and the nature of the allegations) before it was withdrawn after Egan's attorneys withdrew from representation. A separate lawsuit that was filed after Egan's was also voluntarily withdrawn shortly after it was filed, and Singer's co-defendant in both cases moved to dismiss the second lawsuit as well. It was clear that Egan had concocted this story, given that his new allegations contradicted deposition testimony related to actual sexual abuse from the late 1990s. He filed suit in Hawaii, because the statute of limitations had been lifted temporarily for child sexual abuse civil suits, but in his deposition he denied having gone to Hawaii, which was inconsistent with his complaint.
Egan has since been indicted on federal wire fraud and securities charges:
Papers claim that from 2007 to 2012, Egan, 32, “executed a scheme to defraud victims” by promising to fund “holiday themed attractions,” land development deals and TV shows with investors’ money, but never did.
The suit says Egan provided forged bank account and other documents falsely claiming he had millions.
Instead, he used the ill-gotten funds to pay personal expenses such as “rent, groceries, restaurants, medical bills and pet care.”
Now, victims of child sexual abuse (or any form of sexual abuse) can have psychological problems, and subsequently, legal problems. So perhaps this is not as damning and suggestive of his ulterior motive as it appears. Moreover, Hollywood has a terrible record on this (Roman Polanski, Victor Salva, the list is fairly long). It was the subject of a recent documentary, An Open Secret, and while the director gives undue credence to Egan's allegations (in my opinion) she also did the documentary Deliver Us From Evil, which deals with RCC sexual abuse, and a number of the cases she deals with in her Hollywood documentary are verified.
As for Corey Feldman's accusations, I think that they are far more credible than Egan's, but that is not saying much. He apparently reported this back in 1993 when police were investigating Michael Jackson (Feldman denies any abuse on Jackson's part; he used the example to distinguish Jackson from what he knew about sexual predators based on his own experiences), and named his abusers (there was apparently no follow up investigation, which is disturbing but not altogether surprising, particularly if he named people with industry name recognition). Certainly, the idea that Corey Haim was raped by Martin Weiss, a talent manager, is believable, given what we know about the latter (who pled guilty decades later to child sexual abuse). Somewhat disturbingly, Feldman also presents Haim as an enthusiastic participant at the time. But there is a fairly consistent narrative here, emerging publicly beginning in 2008. The mother of Haim corroborates some of it as well. Given that these are not really high profile individuals, I won't link to the actors names that are believed to be behind the pseudonyms, but I think it is fairly clear who Feldman names in his book. Note that the actual evidence does not suggest that this is part of the power elite in Hollywood, diminishing the fairly incredulous claim that a monolithic Hollywood engine fuels child sexual abuse.
If I had to guess where most of it was coming from, I'd say the talent procurement people. If there is one consistency that emerges, it is that these are people being entrusted with children. The cases that have revealed actual child sexual abuse often involve lower level participants in the industry. The most damning thing that can be said about Hollywood on this score is that it is fairly indifferent to the well being of child actors, particularly those who are not successful. Many of the men profiled in Amy Berg’s documentary are talent managers, not producers, directors or actors. There are some exceptions of course: Stephen Collins,
the star of 7th Heaven who admitted to molesting underage girls, Roman Polanski and Victor Salva mentioned above, and others. The most damning thing that can be said about Hollywood in those cases is that it still employs them, notwithstanding the controversy. After directing the very creepy Clownhouse (a horror film about killer clowns that freaked out yours truly as a child when he snuck a peak at it), it was revealed that Salva had molested one of the child actors. Yet after he was released from prison, he was tapped to do the creepy-for-different-reasons Powder, and later the cult hit Jeepers Creepers. What makes Salva’s case particularly disturbing is that his movies evoke fairly creepy pederastic imagery and themes, given his background. R Kelly is similarly creepy, notwithstanding his acquittal, given that there’s fairly strong evidence of an illegal underage marriage and astonishingly violent sexual misconduct
And one of the accused, Garth Ancier (who received an apology and a settlement from Egan's attorneys), actually filed a countersuit, which was (as against Egan's attorneys) settled in his favor, and the suit was against Egan as well as his attorneys, which is unusual. He alleged that it was basically a gay shakedown, and as some articles reporting the cases noted, this particular attorney representing Egan had a fairly rough recent history of ethical violations.
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John Carpenter does the same thing.He exposes corruption in his films.Just like in the movie, "They live." He does it in a subtle way but Hollywood caught on and made him an outcast.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Any form of media who's target audience isn't bronze age goat herders = devil's brainwashing magic.
Thanks for not answering any of my questions.
Thanks for not answering any of my questions.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Ok.Thanks for assuming my logic.
Calling it logic would be a stretch.