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fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
It is not accurate to define Islam by the actions of a few. Especially when Islam does not teach to do such actions.
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
What happened definitely had no need; however, at the same time, it is understandable to a point. What I mean by that is that the country is falling into a period of chaos. These actions are horrible, but we should not let them distort any idea of the country, or their people. When a country does fall into this sort of turmoil, there are unlawful acts that follow. That should not define the country though.
waitasec
Veteran Member
i just don't understand the mentality that if an unmarried girl is not a virgin then her voice doesn't count...
it's barbaric....
notice they didn't find any virgins thereby undermining their collective voices by
implying that the voice of the people are corrupted and shouldn't be acknowledged...
looks like desperation
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
I agree that the act was barbaric. However, that is something that happens in turmoil. I'm not trying to defend it, but I also don't think that it should influence how one sees Egypt (not saying that it did with you).
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
From Wiki
Virginity test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The process of virginity testing varies by region. In areas where medical doctors are readily available, such as Turkey before the country banned the practice, the tests will often be given in a doctor's office.[2] However, in countries where doctors are not available, testers will often be older, respectable women, or whoever can be trusted to search for a hymen.[4] This is common among African tribes that perform the test.
In virginity tests, the presence of a hymen is often used to determine if a woman is a virgin. Another form of virginity tests involves testing for laxity of vaginal muscles with fingers (the "two-finger test"). A doctor performs the test by inserting a finger into the victim's vagina to check the level of vaginal laxity, which is used to determine if she is "habituated to sexual intercourse."[11] However, the usefulness of these criteria has been questioned by medical authorities and opponents of virginity testing because vaginal laxity and the absence of a hymen can both be caused by other factors, and the "two finger test" is based on subjective observation.
Virginity test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The process of virginity testing varies by region. In areas where medical doctors are readily available, such as Turkey before the country banned the practice, the tests will often be given in a doctor's office.[2] However, in countries where doctors are not available, testers will often be older, respectable women, or whoever can be trusted to search for a hymen.[4] This is common among African tribes that perform the test.
In virginity tests, the presence of a hymen is often used to determine if a woman is a virgin. Another form of virginity tests involves testing for laxity of vaginal muscles with fingers (the "two-finger test"). A doctor performs the test by inserting a finger into the victim's vagina to check the level of vaginal laxity, which is used to determine if she is "habituated to sexual intercourse."[11] However, the usefulness of these criteria has been questioned by medical authorities and opponents of virginity testing because vaginal laxity and the absence of a hymen can both be caused by other factors, and the "two finger test" is based on subjective observation.
What does this had to do with religion?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
An excellent question regarding many practices performed in the name of religion. Then again, religion is basically nothing more than the collection of cultural practices performed by those who identify with any particular religion. Although, it is quite convenient to be able to discount such things when they may not fall under particular interpretations of religious teachings.
Marble
Rolling Marble
A lot, in a sense that I cannot imagine Jews to do that with women who protest against Israel, or even Chinese with women who protest against China.
What practices are performed in the name of religion in this article? Did you read the article? Did you follow the news coming from Egypt in the last few months? There was a revolution that changed the entire political scene in Egypt. The protesters were faced with tear gas, rubber and live bullets by the security forces. Many of them were arrested, detained and beaten (including my own brother). The ousted regime hired thugs who attacked the protesters with molotov cocktails, knives, etc. The military forced Mubarak to leave and protected the revolution. The military is administering the affairs of the country now until the next elections.
Some protesters males and female were insulted, beaten and electrically shocked in the Egyptian museum by some soldiers. If the females were really called "prostitutes" then I know that the detained guys then were called traitors. I have no doubt that there are some members of the military that are connected with the past regime and the state security who worked very hard to fight the revolution and its fruits.
The military police clashed with the protesters in a few occasions, after one of them the Egyptian supreme council of the armed forces apologized.
What we actually ask from the higher council of the armed forces is transparency. These allegations of torture by the soldiers must be investigated and who are proved to be involved, must get what they deserve.
Just these days, there was a citizen who died from torture by the police. Revolution doesn't change things between a day and a night but the nation will face many obstacles on the way to democracy and prosperity. The police who used to torture won't suddenly change but there should be the political will to take steps in the long way of change.
So Egypt now is facing a lot of problems, mostly because of the disastrous situation created by the past regime and the rest is due to the state of chaos, and fixing these problems is a long way and we achieved very positive things in these few months.
Remind me again what practices performed in the name of religion in these incidents of degradation and torture?
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