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Witnesses at the tomb

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Pah, Oct 3, 2004.

  1. Pah

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    The messages delivered to the women that visited the tomb of Jesus
    • Matthew: "Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead: and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you." (28:5-7)
    • Mark: "Be not afrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him. But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you." (16:6-7)
    • Luke: "Why seek ye the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee, Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again." (24:5-7)
    • John: "Woman, why weepest thou?" (20:13)

    The question arises as to the authenticity of the messages themselves let alone to whom they were delivered. None of the characters involved in the story of these messages wrote scripture to attest to these words. God and Mary Maglane were the only common witnesses to all four messages and only God was supposedly involved in the writing of them. How could God get it so wrong?

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  2. Wleeper

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    God didn't get it wrong. You did.

    Matthew records a conversation between two women (Mary the mother of James and Salome) with an angel on the outside of the tomb.

    Mark records a conversation between the same two women with a different angel after they had entered the tomb.

    Luke records a conversation between the two woman that occurred after the angel that had been on the outside came into the tomb also.

    John records a conversation that took place between the two angels and Mary Magdalene which took place after the two others had left.

    Four different conversations, four different occassions. All four acurately reported by the four Gospel writers.

    How did they know? A little thing called inspiration.

    Nice try, but again, no cigar.
     
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    Alledged Discepencies of the Bible by John Haley pgs 325-326
     
  4. Pah

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    Was Mary Magdalene the mother of James? Was Salome also known as "the other Mary"?

    The conversation include the destination of Galilee right after arising from the dead. Mark does also.


    Three women - you forgot Mary Magdalene again. And please note -
    ((The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20.)) quoted from Bible Gateway. Do you have those verses in your authority?


    It does not say two women - who were the women who came from Galilee with Jesus? or even how many were there? Got verse that says two?
    It does not say an angel (but may have been) But it does say TWO men, gleaming like lighting. How did you miss the second man?

    No destination mentioned for Jesus - apparently Like did not think it important to say.


    Did you forget that she spoke to the risen Jesus as well and none of the other Gospels caught that?

    Actually it is probably three - Matthew and Mark being so simular (but that is understandable since it is, upon analysis by scholars, certain that Matthew cribbed from Mark

    Jesus' destination was his father.

    Now to prove your contention that it was four different occasions kindly produce a timeline showing when each event in the story took place including when the messengers changed position. Who arrived when, what was said, and were were they positioned.

    -pah-


    Hehehehe
     
  5. Pah

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    John- it was dark, before dawn, when Mary Magdalene went alone to see the stone moved


    John - no angel sat on the stone

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    John - It was yet dark


    John - Simon Peter and the other left before the two angels appear


    John - No message only a question "Why are you crying?"

    John - Jesus appears to Mary Magdalene alone nobody esle there and says he may not be held (is that the same as touched?)


    John - on the the night of that first day which would be the second day . It was in a house with doors locked. Eleven were there and first saw the risen Jesus which would include Peter and John.

    It seems there is a lot of John not accounted for.

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    This from the OP. Would anyone care to tackle the authenticy of the story in regard to having no witnesses?

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    In the end of [the Greek is better translated "Now late on"] the sabbath [late on the weekly Sabbath], as it began to dawn ["as it was getting dusk"] toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see [theoreo, to gaze on] the sepulchre. The word "dawn" in the Greek is used Biblically of "dusk". The Sabbath would end at sunset, around dusk, on Saturday. So these 2 women came to the tomb as the weekly Sabbath was drawing to a close near sunset. At that sunset on Saturday the first day of the week began. Their purpose was to gaze upon the sepulchre. They were not intending to see the body or anoint it, only to view the sepulchre.

    And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the entrance, and sat upon it.

    This describes events that happened shortly after the two women had seen the sepulchre and left. When the angel sat on the stone, it made it literally impossible for anyone to put the stone back on the opening of the sepulchre.

    The angel's countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow And for fear of him those keeping guard did tremble, and became as dead.

    The angel's appearance was brilliant and the entire situation absolutely overwhelmed the guards that they shook and became as dead, frozen.

    The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. Then she runneth and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and I know not where they have laid him.

    Mary Magdalene came by herself to the sepulchre and saw the stone rolled off and assumed that the body had been taken away. She ran to find Peter and the other disciple and informed them of what she had seen. Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre. So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre. And he [the other disciple] stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes [bandages, wrappings, grave clothes] lying; yet went he not in. He saw the grave wrappings used by Nicodemus in burying Jesus. Joseph of Arimathea had used a linen cloth or sheet. How accurate the Word is. Nicodemus had been the last one to handle Jesus' body in burying him.

    Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, And the napkin [a cloth, kerchief], that was upon his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but folded in a place by itself. Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.

    The linen wrappings remained as they had been when around the body. The record in John is making the point that these grave wrappings were undisturbed. They were still in the position as when containing a body. When Jesus Christ was raised he had been given a new body. In his new, spitirual body, Jesus Christ had passed through the grave wrappings. If his body had been taken by others, as Mary claimed, these grave clothes would either have been taken along with him or unwound and tossed to the side. The cloth that had covered his face was neatly folded and placed off to the side.

    Then the disciples went away again unto their own home. But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down and looked into the sepulchre.

    Mary Magdalene had followed the two disciples back to the sepulchre, where she stood crying. Verse 11 of John 20 is the first record of Mary's looking into the sepulchre. Upon looking in, she saw two angels and mistook them for men.

    And Mary Magdalene seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain. And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.

    This is the first time two angels are mentioned. The previous evening there had only been one angel sitting on the stone. Mary Magdalene, weeping, told the two angels of the missing body of her master. And this time the angels are inside the sepulchre

    And when she had thus said, she turned herself back [she turned around], and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.

    This is Jesus Christ's first post-resurrection appearance after witnessing in his resurrected body to the imprisoned spirits. He appeared to Mary Magdalene, yet she did not recognize him. She thought he was dead and that his body had been taken. This first appearance to Mary Magdalene is approximately twelve hours after his resurrection.

    Jesus saith unto her, Woman why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away. Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni: which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

    For the first time in history, a person beheld the resurrected Christ. He did not appear to a king, a priest, or a ruler but unto a simple, loving woman disciple who faithfully cared for him. Jesus did not allow Mary to touch him because he was the firstfruits from the dead. The wave-offering of the firstfruits, in which the firstfruits of the spring barley harvest were presented as an offering to God in the Temple, was to occur that same day. Jesus Christ would now replace that offering as the true firstfruits from the dead. Normally, the priest presenting the offering would go up to the Temple to present it before the Lord. That is the meaning of the expression "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father and to my God and your God" Christ would go up and as the high priest, present himself before God as the firstfruits from the dead. In preparing to present himself as the firstfruits, Christ would, in accordance with Old Testament law, keep himself separated unti it was accomplished. It was the first day of the week, our Sunday, the day after the weekly Sabbath. According to Old Testament law, the firstfruits wave-offering was always done on the say after the weekly Sabbath during the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

    Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf[handful] of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath[in context this is the weekly Sabbath during the Feast of Unleavened Bread] the priest shall wave it.

    Jesus Christ fullfilled this law in minute detail. This is what John 20:17 refers to when Jesus Christ told Mary that he had to ascend "unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God" Accoring to Leviticus 23:10-21, the day of this firstfruits offering was also the first day of counting toward Pentecost. From this day, they were to number seven Sabbaths [literal weekly Sabbaths] The final Sabbath would be the forty-ninth day. The next day, the fiftieth day, was Pentecost. Astounding how God in His foreknowledge arranged the law and the calendar to perfectly correspond to what Jesus Christ would accomplish. Mary carried out those instructions. A summary of the appearance to Mary and her subsequent action is found in Mark
     
  8. true blood

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    Now when Jesus was risen[having risen] early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils. And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept. John: Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her. Mark 16:11: And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. Luke 24:1: Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning [at early dawn], they [the women] came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

    This response is so characteristically human. Mark 16:9-11 is a parenthetic statement explaining Mark 16:1-8, which relates how Mary and the other women went to the sepulchre later that morning. Verses 9-11 explain this by recounting what happened before hand. So Mary Magdalene, after seeing Jesus, went and told the disciples in an exited manner. She related and told them the message he had spoken to her [John 20:17]. No one believed her. Therefore the women went as they had planned to the sepulchre to anoint the body and Mary Magdalene accompanied them.

    Mark: And they said among themselves, Who shall roll ["shall roll" is "did roll" in Aramaic] us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?

    By the time of this visit it was no longer dark as it had been when Mary went alone in John 20. Now it was just after sunrise. According to the Greek texts, the women, including Mary Magdalene, wondered who would roll the stone away for them to get into the tomb. Something is amiss here because John 20 makes it clear that Mary had learned on an earlier visit that the stone was already rolled away. She certainly would not come to the tomb after this wondering how to move the stone. The problem is one of translation. According to Aramaic, Mark 16:3 should read, "Who did roll the stone from the entrance of the tome for us?" When this is understood, it is highly informative and dynamic. From the women's point of view, the stone had been rolled away for thier benefit so that they could get into the tomb to anoint the body. They desired to properly prepare the body something they felt Joseph of Arimathea had not done. They were unaware that Nicodemus had already anointed the body. Nor did they realize the real reason the tomb was open. Having learned the stone was rolled away, they decided to take advantage of the opportunity to enter the tomb and anoint the body. Previously they could not have done so because of the stone, and the seal on the stone, and the guards. Now all three obstacles had been removed.

    Mark: And when they looked, they saw that the stone was[had been] rolled away: for it was very great.
    Luke: And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
    Luke: And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. Mark: And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted. And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him. But go your way, tell his diciples and Peter that he goeth before you in Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you. Matthew: And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was cruicified. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead: and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him:lo, I have told you.

    You should recognize that the first use of the word "and" in Matthew 28:5 is the Greek word de meaning "but." "But the angel answered..." The word de is not a temporal connective. It says nothing regarding the time between events. The pupose in this section of scripture is not to denote the length of time involved, but to focus on the two Mary's and their experiences at the tomb. It is from the other gospels you can learn more details regarding the time and the other women who became involved. According to Mark 16:5: and angel was sitting to the right side of the sepulchre. This angel, a spiritual being, was a messanger from God who had come into concretion in the form of a man. The reaction of the women to this sight was one of great fear. The angel's first statement was a command. Then he instructed the women to tell the disciples that Jesus Christ had risen from the dead. With that the women turned to leave the sepulchre amazed and yet another event occurred.

    Luke: And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee, Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the first day rist again. And they remembered his words.

    The phrase "and is came to pass" indicates that a period of time had elapsed. Luke is summarizing the events, not giving every detail. That is how the Gospels complement, add to, and illuminate each other. These two angels, brilliant in appearance, reaffirmed what the first angel had just told them.

    Mark: And they went out quickly ["quickly" is omitted in most of the Greek text], and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid[in awe]
    Matthew: Now when they[the women] were going, behold, some of the watch [the men guarding the tomb] came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done. And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money[pay-off money] unto the soldiers, Saying, say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept. And if this come to the governor's[Pilate's] earrs, we will persuade him, and secure you [so the guards would not be punished] So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

    As the guards were reporting to the chief priests and elders, the women found the disciples and began declaring unto them what had happened at the tomb. Luke: And [the women] returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest. It was Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles. And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.

    However Peter himself had seen the empty tomb and grave wrappings that same day. Considering the tremendous significance of what he had seen and now hearing the women, Peter took action. Luke: Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the line clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering ["Marvelling" in himself at that which was come to pass.

    Peter, after going to the tomb for a second look, began to fully realize the women were right.
     
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    true blood,


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    The question arises as to the authenticity of the messages themselves let alone to whom they were delivered. None of the characters involved in the story of these messages wrote scripture to attest to these words. God and Mary Maglane were the only common witnesses to all four messages and only God was supposedly involved in the writing of them. How could God get it so wrong?


    This from the OP. Would anyone care to tackle the authenticy of the story in regard to having no witnesses?
     
  10. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    Visits at the tomb “on the First Day


    1) “Mary sees the stone removed”, “while being early darkness still”, dusk. Then Peter and John go to the tomb to see what Mary has told them. (Jn20:1-10)


    2) “Earliest morning- darkness”, just after midnight, “the two women” (variant – the two Marys), “and certain others with them”, for the first time, “came to the sepulchre, bringing the spices they had prepared”. (Lk24:1) “They returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things to the eleven and to all the rest.” (“Then Peter stood up and ran to the tomb; and bending low over, he saw the linen clothes. He went back, wandering by himself about that what had happened.” (Lk24:9-12) Cf. John's account in 20:1-10. Luke talks of another visit by Peter, because for one thing, he doesn't mention John.)


    3) These women to make sure, a second time came to the tomb “very early before sunrise”. (Mk16:2)


    4) Mary from after the others had fled in fear (Mk16:8) “had had stood after without at the grave” (Jn20:11). At the time a gardener should begin work, about sunrise, Jesus “early … first appeared to Mary”. (Mk16:9)


    5) Soon after – after they a third time have visited the tomb and “the angel explained” to them what had happened during the Resurrection – Jesus appears to the other women “as they went to tell his disciples”. (Mt28:5, 9)


    Mary went to the tomb, three times, Jn20:1, Lk24:1, Mk16:2, and Mk16:9 when she “had remained standing behind” until, Jn20:11, Jesus appeared to her, “first”, Mk16:9, and alone, “at the grave”, Jn20:16.

    The other women also went to the tomb, three times, Lk24:1, Mk16:2, and Mt28:5 whenthe angel explained” to them what had happened during the Resurrection, and Jesus, as “they went to tell his disciples”, appeared to them. (Mt28:5, 9)

    The answer to the ‘Easter enigma’ (John Wenham) is simple: Each Gospel contributed to the whole with one of several sources; each added a personal part that, put together, will bring the whole story of the Resurrection into proper perspective.

    Tradition – that is, the Sunday-resurrection approach – makes of these several stories of several visits, the one and simultaneous occasion of Jesus’ resurrection. Contradictions, discrepancies and total confusion are the inevitable result! It was bad enough that this ‘solution’ to a self-created ‘riddle’ was ever offered just to protect Sunday’s presumed status of being the day of the Resurrection. It became a comedy of tragic proportions when Sunday-protagonists began to defend their presumptuousness through unlawful improvements on the Scriptures.


    First thing ever and always:

    No Scripture speaks directly of Jesus' resurrection.


    Next thing ever and always first:

    Matthew supplies the Only circumstantial 'evidence' surrounding the Resurrection. No other Gospel does.


    Third thing of first importance:

    The Gospels don't give a single 'eye-witness' or 'eye-witness account' of the Resurrection as such. No human being saw, and not even "the angel of the Lord" looked on and saw Jesus rise inside the grave. No; the record states he cast the stone out of the door-opening of the grave and then went and sat on it, outside. For what happened in the grave with The Dead was God in full fellowship of the Trinity (Klaas Schilder) raising Him from the dead. (So if the dead could see, the dead would have been the only ones who saw live how God raised Christ from the dead.)


    Following fact of first importance:

    God revealed to the angel and / or angels and gave them command to go witness to human beings the Truth and Reality of Jesus' resurrection.


    Therefore it is the report or 'witness' of the angel/s and ultimately the witness of God which we believe. Paul says, "Great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified (confirmed true) in the Spirit, Seen of Angels, Preached, unto the Gentiles, Believed on, in the world, received up, into glory." 1Tm3:16. This is all, speaking of Jesus in resurrection from the dead!


    Only now, does the revelation of the mystery of godliness become clear to human beings where, when, and as, the angel and or angels actually Tell the women that Jesus had been raised from the dead. The angels tell the women at different events in time of Their, Several, Visits, At, the grave during Saturday night-Sunday morning. And this single witness of the angels Repeated at Several encounters at the tomb all Only tell of the Fact that Jesus did rise; no instance of the angel/s 'witness' contained more 'information' than the statement of the fact of the Resurrection --- except the Last 'witness', where in Mt28:5a, 1-4, "The angel explained / answered and told the women ...." the circumstantial 'evidence' that surrounded the Resurrection "On the Sabbath" as per verses 1-4.
     
  11. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    The real Matthew 28:1,

    "In the end / Late on / Fullness ['opse de']
    of the [weekly] Sabbath's-time ['Sabbatohn']
    being ['--ousehi']
    in the ['tehi']
    in-the-full- very- noon- mid- inclining- declining- down- over- upon- noon- ['epi']
    day-light-time ['phohsk--']
    toward / against / unto / before ['eis']
    the First Day ['Mian (Hehmeran)']
    of the week ['sabbatohn'],
    Mary Magdalene and the other Mary
    set out ['ehlthen']
    to go see ['theohrehsai' Infinitive of Intention]
    the sepulchre ['ton taphon']
    when suddenly ['kai idou']
    there was / occurred ['egeneto']
    a great earthquake ['seismos megas']
    k.t.l.
     
  12. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    Re: '~theoreo, to gaze on~'
    Refer #11, to go see ['theohrehsai' Infinitive of Intention]

    Re: '~The word "dawn" in the Greek is used Biblically of "dusk".~'
    Though the KJV uses the word "dawn", the word "dawn" in the Greek whatever it might be, is not used in Matthew 28:1 '~of "dusk"~', but of
    "being ['--ousehi']
    in the ['tehi']
    in-the-full- very- noon- mid- inclining- declining- down- over- upon- noon- ['epi']
    day-light-time ['phohsk--']" as per #8.
    The Sabbath would end sunset 'Saturday' exactly.

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    These 2 women did not come to at the tomb; they "set out (from home) to (go) see the tomb AS THERE SUDDENLY was a great earthquake" which must have thwarted their plans before the weekly Sabbath was beginning to draw to a close literally "mid-afternoon" three hours before sunset.
     
  14. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    Correct!
     
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    Fair enough.......
    My perception of this is that Yeshua did indeed appear in Galilee after these events, because either he survived the cross, or it was not he who died on that cross but Jesus Son of the Father, Jesus Barabbas. Pilate liked Yeshua BarYosef and almost certainly enjoyed the embarrassment that he had caused to the priesthood, Sanhedrin and Temple. Jesus Barabbas on the other hand had led a full riot which must have caused Pilate no end of difficulty.

    Matthew, Luke and John were manipulators of the true story, methinks. :)
     
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    '~This~', "And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the entrance, and sat upon it..." does not '~describe events that happened shortly after the two women had seen the sepulchre and left~', denies and contradicts everything Matthew wrote in 28:1-4. "There was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the entrance, and sat upon it... LATE ON THE SABBATH in the mid-afternoon BEFORE the First day of the week... as there was a great earthquake."
     
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    Nothing of in the text. The two women never reached the grave "late on the Sabbath" and therefore never left the grave "late on the Sabbath". Which is proved by "the angel (who) explained to the women and told them (when they had reached the tomb on Sunday morning that) He is risen" because "on the Sabbath before..." He had resurrected as "the angel explained / reported to them" in verses 1 to 4.
     
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    There was no one except the guards at the grave when the angel with his appearance cast the stone from the grave late on the Sabbath three hours before the First Day.
     
  19. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    True. But the AV is wrong concerning the time of day.
    "Being yet early of darkness", dusk after sunset, NOT '~when it was yet dark~' in the morning before sunrise, "Mary Magdalene comes (by herself) to the sepulchre and sees the stone rolled off; then runs back", '~assum(ing) that the body had been taken away~'.
     
  20. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    Not true!
    It specifically is written,

    6b καὶ Σίμων Πέτρος εἰσῆλθεν εἰς τὸ μνημεῖον·
    6b and Simon Peter went into the sepulchre

    καὶ θεωρεῖ τὰ ὀθόνια κείμενα, 7 καὶ τὸ σουδάριον, ὃ ἦν ἐπὶ
    and seeth the linen clothes lie. 7 And the napkin that was about

    τῆς κεφαλῆς αὐτοῦ, οὐ μετὰ τῶν ὀθονίων κείμενον ἀλλὰ χωρὶς
    his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped

    ἐντετυλιγμένον εἰς ἕνα τόπον.
    together in a place by itself.

    It is also written,
    “his flesh did not see corruption … that same Jesus whom ye have crucified … God raised up … Thou wilt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption … My flesh shall rest in hope.”
     
    #20 Gerhard Ebersoehn, Apr 26, 2018
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