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Why Prostitution Should be Legal

Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Watchmen said:
My articles didn’t fail. The last one I posted included data. You asked for sources. They were provided.
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Wrong again. You don't seem to realize how sources work. Not only must you find sources to support claims. You also need to be ready to quote from them. He fact that you can't tells us that you probably did not read them, and if by some small chance you did then we can be certain that you did not understand them.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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joe1776 said:
Lyndon was trying to support another struggling poster and came up with a bum rap for me. To deny that trafficking exists would be dumb. I never did that.

Amnesty International, the Nobel-Prize-winning human-rights organization, provoked international controversy in 2015 by advocating the decriminalization of all adult prostitution. They took two years studying the research. There are links to research included in their article on the topic. Notice that the Global Alliance Against Trafficking in Women supports decriminalization. I thinks it's obvious that it would be easier to control trafficking and all the other abuses if sex work was made legal.

(Amnesty International) We would like to claim to be the first to address this issue. But we are not. Other groups which support or are calling for the decriminalization of sex work include the World Health Organization, UNAIDS, International Labour Organization, the Global Alliance Against Trafficking in Women, the Global Network of Sex Work Projects, the Global Commission on HIV and the Law, Human Rights Watch, the Open Society Foundations and Anti-Slavery International.
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Sex Workers' Rights are Human Rights
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A very good article. And it supports what I have been arguing for. The posters that are claiming "trafficking" without supporting it properly do not understand how this policy will lower it. I don't think they want to know.
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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An interesting thread to read through.
For me, I see prostitution as another branch of sex workers in general. Like the porn industry.
I say, make it legal and have strict regulations. If porn employers have to ensure their workers are safe, make it so in the prostitution realm. Will it solve all the problems? No of course not. But at least it’s an attempt to involve some regulation in an industry that has none. Hell the sex workers have their own union where I live. Let prostitutes have their own, I say.
Have it so that “employees” must be of age, have to be regularly tested and incentivise this to happen in an industry where this doesn’t happen. Have it so prostitutes can report abusive clients and pimps without fear of being locked up for doing so.
Offer potential olive branches on the side for those in the ahem “profession” to get help if they are living in poverty or addicted or whatever the circumstance. Be proactive and pragmatic. Because as far as I can tell, simply making illegal just makes everyone involved a criminal by default. And is that really the best way to combat abusive scenarios in this particular instance?
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

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Subduction Zone said:
Wrong again. You don't seem to realize how sources work. Not only must you find sources to support claims. You also need to be ready to quote from them. He fact that you can't tells us that you probably did not read them, and if by some small chance you did then we can be certain that you did not understand them.
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Wrong
 
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wellwisher

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Legal prostitution would have an impact on the institution of marriage and family. Marriage creates an environment based on exclusive consent for sex. Legal prostitution would change the nature of exclusive consent, since it is would be legal and socially acceptable. Then, based on the law of supply and demand, legalization would increase the supply of sexual workers, thereby causing the prices to fall. This further erodes exclusivity even among the pros.

Men still pay for sex in marriage, but in indirect ways, such as with gifts, jewelry, romantic gestures, and even bringing home a weekly pay check. Legal prostitution could cause some men, to shop around, for a better value in terms of sex.

Picture a husband, who decides to get some of his extra sexual needs from a pro. This sexual arrangement is very straight forward, compared to the romantic games that may be needed, after a few years of marriage. With the pro, there is not a lot of time wasted playing games. The price is straight forward and does not change with moods and conditioning strategy.

This professional simplicity for sex would change the dynamics between husband and wife, making the wife less influential in terms of sexual leverage. She will have to compete with a pro, who does not have to put up with her husband, day after day.

The net affect is this would benefit men more than women, and further cause a decline in marriage and the nuclear family. The reason prostitution is illegal, in most places, is due to women. They understand this would not work out in their favor, in the long term.

Guys typically want more sex than their wife, There is a steady decline in sex, after the first year of marriage, with this increasing sexual deficit, part of female leverage in marriage. If a pro fills in the deficit, the leverage is less, and the rules of the marriage game start to change.
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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wellwisher said:
Legal prostitution would have an impact on the institution of marriage and family. Marriage creates an environment based on exclusive consent for sex. Legal prostitution would change the nature of exclusive consent, since it is would be legal and socially acceptable. Then, based on the law of supply and demand, legalization would increase the supply of sexual workers, thereby causing the prices to fall. This further erodes exclusivity even among the pros.

Men still pay for sex in marriage, but in indirect ways, such as with gifts, jewelry, romantic gestures, and even bringing home a weekly pay check. Legal prostitution could cause some men, to shop around, for a better value in terms of sex.

Picture a husband, who decides to get some of his extra sexual needs from a pro. This sexual arrangement is very straight forward, compared to the romantic games that may be needed, after a few years of marriage. With the pro, there is not a lot of time wasted playing games. The price is straight forward and does not change with moods and conditioning strategy.

This professional simplicity for sex would change the dynamics between husband and wife, making the wife less influential in terms of sexual leverage. She will have to compete with a pro, who does not have to put up with her husband, day after day.

The net affect is this would benefit men more than women, and further cause a decline in marriage and the nuclear family. The reason prostitution is illegal, in most places, is due to women. They understand this would not work out in their favor, in the long term.

Guys typically want more sex than their wife, There is a steady decline in sex, after the first year of marriage, with this increasing sexual deficit, part of female leverage in marriage. If a pro fills in the deficit, the leverage is less, and the rules of the marriage game start to change.
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Mate, if all it takes is the law to literally stop you from cheating on your significant other, then that's hardly the prostitute's fault.
What I took from your post is essentially "men are weak horny idiots." Which, I suppose is a fair assessment for some. I tend to expect adults to behave like adults, though, and exercise the same basic self control we teach to children.
Besides, pretty sure adultery has always existed regardless of the legality of prostitution. World wide.
 
Lyndon

Lyndon

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Subduction Zone said:
Sorry, but if you want to use a source you need to copy and paste what you are referring to. Second you must be ready to defend that data. You were lazy. You did not do your homework.
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What a stupid response, he tells you where the data is and you're to lazy to read it.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Lyndon said:
What a stupid response, he tells you where the data is and you're to lazy to read it.
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Wrong, I am not the lazy one. I read his sources. They were not very convincing. Meanwhile he can't even do anything more than to post sources that he does not appear to understand. It appears that you do not know how to use sources either. Merely linking a source is not good enough. One must at the very least quote applicable parts of the source. Otherwise all it takes to refute them is a handwave.

The main problem is that they cannot even come up with a consistent definition of what "trafficking" is. In the U.S. tales of trafficking have been much greater than the actual acts. There are huge numbers of claimed incidents, but when actual arrests are made, such as in the Kraft case, there was no "trafficking" in the sense of prostitutes being forced to work as such against their will.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Lyndon said:
you're in denial!!
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Hardly. I have observed that those who make "trafficking" claims have not been able to properly support their claims. When I made my claim about Kraft I not only linked the source, I quoted the parts that supported my claim. Those on the trafficking side have not been able to properly support their claims. Again, when real world cases are use trafficking for the most part, there are a few exceptions,, disappear in the U.S.. Earlier there were claims by those that claimed "trafficking" that I refuted with quotes from their very own articles. All I ask is that those making claims support them properly. It appears that most prostitutes in the U.S. are either drug users if they are citizens or illegal aliens trying to make a living. Perhaps it might be different elsewhere, but considering the emotional nature of arguments against prostitution I have serious doubts about that.
 
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